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Old 01-06-2013, 10:17 AM   #1
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There's a good argument that a poor person actually needs a smart phone so that they have Internet access for looking for jobs, unemployment forms, etc. they can then not need a land line or a real computer.

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I wonder how people ever got jobs before the internet and smart phones????
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I wonder how people ever got jobs before the internet and smart phones????
They checked the newspaper. Then technology came along and well.. You know.
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:42 AM   #3
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They checked the newspaper. Then technology came along and well.. You know.
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they can still check the newspaper....the point that you started was about wants and needs...you don't "need" a smart phone to find a job, particularly if many aspects of your life(housing, food, electric, school meals, healthcare, childcare ...etc...etc...) are already being subsidized or provided by the government....having a car might get you to a job as well, but if you can't afford the basics in life you should walk, ride a bike or take public transportation (can't believe I have to explain this)........you don't "need" a 6 dollar latte at an internet cafe, you use your EBT card to purchase that latte because you feel that you are entitled to a latte at someone else's expense or you've just become so accustomed to living at someone else's expense that it doesn't even occur to you that someone else is paying for your latte...might a smart phone provide you access to employment information?.....sure...but based on that argument we can justify/construe all sorts of wants as needs while forgetting priorities simply because the wants in lieu of needs will make our lives a little easier....which is very much a reason why we are where we are.... on the other hand, you may not need many of these weapons mentioned(or maybe you might at some point) but if you can pay for them and can meet the guidelines for ownership, you are entitled to them under the Constitution(at least for now)....not sure smartphones and lattes were mentioned in the Constitution...probably just behind the times....

listening to the radio in the car last night I heard a very salient point made that while simple, explained an awful lot...."we cant even agree on right and wrong in this country anymore"

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:38 AM   #4
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you don't "need" a 6 dollar latte at an internet cafe, you use your EBT card to purchase that latte because you feel that you are entitled to a latte at someone else's expense or you've just become so accustomed to living at someone else's expense that it doesn't even occur to you that someone else is paying for your latte...
It was a Joke Scott...Geesh

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It was a Joke Scott...Geesh
I got it....but it is symptomatic...wouldn't you say?
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/p...nvj2RwpsEDS7MN
metaphor for steak and lobster at the checkout line at Market Basket courtesy of EBT ....I'd refer back to the better living through foodstamps commercials that the government was targeting various groups with and the explosion of foodstamp recipients...it's prevalent right through the income stratus but breeding dependency begins with the most likely dependent(s)....good humor is always reality based but the reality of that joke isn't so funny really ...I'd argue that the growth of the entitlement culture and bureaucracy and dissolving of our social framework coupled with the inability to distinguish between right and wrong, needs and wants, rights and entitlements will have a much more significant impact on our future than the argument over which guns and ammo to ban....but the argument for the next few months will be about guns apparently...priorities

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Machine guns R needed to rob convience stores in Massachusetts..

were the three men that used machine guns licensed to have them????

Bet cha not
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:38 PM   #7
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Machine guns R needed to rob convience stores in Massachusetts..

were the three men that used machine guns licensed to have them????

Bet cha not
Isn't that sort of the point? People who rob convenience stores don't get licenses. Those who get licenses, tend not to rob stores. If neither got licenses, would't the results be much the same? If the majority of citizens of a state want licenses to be required, that's their concern, not the Federal Government's.
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