If the gop win the midterms

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

There’s no such thing as a “Popular Vote”
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Popular Vote
The term “popular vote” has two different meanings. The first simply refers to a democratic vote which has been put to an entire electorate, which could be in the form of an election or referendum. For example, the subject of European Union membership has always been polarizing in the United Kingdom. In 2016 a decision on the matter was put to a “popular vote” in the form of a referendum resulting in "Brexit".

The second meaning of the term refers to the decision made by voters reflected in the share of votes won by a particular candidate, party or option in a referendum. Using the Brexit referendum example, the option to leave won 52% of the popular vote. In a simple binary referendum such as Brexit, this popular vote majority directly translated into the success for the leave option.

However, in more complex votes such as the US Presidential election, winning a greater share of the popular vote doesn’t always translate into electoral victory. In 2016, for example, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton won 48.5% of the popular vote across the US to Republican Donald Trump’s 46.4%, however the latter ended up winning the presidency. This is because the US electoral college system uses a “winner-takes-all” majoritarian electoral system, which means the number of electors won doesn’t necessarily correspond to a candidate’s share of the popular vote. Put another way, the share of the popular vote refers to the number of votes won across the country, but depending on the electoral system in place, this may or may not correspond to the number of seats won.
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[Pete F.]

They don’t get it yet. They may never get it. Trump won’t ALLOW Republicans to move on from him.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They don’t get it yet. They may never get it. Trump won’t ALLOW Republicans to move on from him.
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Who doesn't get that, Pete?

I agree with you, and I've been saying that.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Who doesn't get that, Pete?

I agree with you, and I've been saying that.

RINO much?

Republicans should be forced to carry Donald Trump to term, even if it endangers the life of the party.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

RINO much?

Republicans should be forced to carry Donald Trump to term, even if it endangers the life of the party.
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republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.

OMG Scott, this is a spelling opportunity for you, why aren't you doing your primary job on this forum?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

republicans don’t the right to choose someone else? why should they be forced to stick with trump?

“endangers the life of the party.”

prevents the party from achieving what it would otherwise achieve. doesn’t endanger the existence of the party.

look where the democrats were after 8 years of obama. way way worse off than the gop is now. but trump is a lot more toxic now than 2 years ago.

i’m not a rino. i like Trunks policies, i hate him personally.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Why on earth, would you point out that Liz Cheney was in private practice from 1981-1989, as evidence she's not a RINO? How could that POSSIBLY mean she's not a RINO?

There was a civil war within the GOP. It's over. Liz Cheney's side lost. And I don't intensely dislike Liz Cheney or anything, but she's no longer the preferred brand of Republican.

The civil war among democrats is just beginning, and lord almighty is it entertaining.

Poor RINO victim, hopefully you were entertained by the civil war among the Dems...............

[Pete F.]

Poor victim
You’re just another Republican failure, like McConnell, McCarthy and McDaniel.

Trump will test the Republican Party and we’ll see just how much lower they will go, because everything Trump touches dies….
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

everything Trump touches dies….
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Then please tell me why the GOP will likely have a tiny majority in the house, 49/50 senate seats, and a robust majority of state governorships and legislatures? By what conceivable standard is that a dead party? I guess it's a very slow death...How would you describe the democrats after Obama? They were way, way worse off than the GOP is now.

Or are you making up quotes again, passing them off as genuine?

It's fascinating though. The battle on the left is ideological between the more progressive wing and the more moderate wing, and the moderate wing at the national level is quickly disappearing. That battle is pretty much over, the holdouts like Manchin and Sinema are mostly despised.

On the right, the ideological battle is over, the neocons lost and the populists won. The upcoming war on the right will be fought among two groups who have the same views on public policy, the battle will be about Trump, as he's way too self-centered to make it about anything other than himself. He's an unbelievable megalomaniac. It's going to be ugly and it's going to be costly, and it will be fascinating to see what Desantis does. If he waits until his term is up in 2026 and runs in 2028, that's 2 years he'll be out of office and he may well be yesterday's news by then. His time is right now after turning Florida into a red state and winning Miami Dade. But the Trump lovers are absolutely in a cult, there's no talking to them. they are completely hypnotized. Desantis is the embodiment of the upside of Trump without the downside, which is exactly why the left is batsh-t terrified of him. And he may never have a chance.

Fascinating stuff. Better than an episode of The West Wing.

[Got Stripers]

Not one incumbent democratic senator lost, last time that happened in the mid terms was 1934, man that red wave was quite the ripple. Trump will continue to be the anchor dragging the GOP down, be careful what you wish for or vote for. Between Trump and abortion, the dog who caught the buss is looking rabid now.

[Pete F.]

The Republican Party had a choice between Trump or America, they chose Trump over and over again.
Trump was impeached twice… each impeachment was completely justified… the second was for 1/6… in each case the elected GOP dishonored their oaths… if they’d honored their oaths… Trump would’ve been removed… he should have been removed…
Republicans now know that they cannot win with Trump; but they also know that if he torches everything in sight, they can’t win without him either. They are in a political prison of their own making.

Wanna blame Trump for Herschel Walker? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed him too. Wanna blame Trump for Kari Lake? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed her too. Wanna blame Trump…

You get it. It’s not just Trump. They ALL endorsed ALL the crazies.

You want the "Trumpism" without Trump. The Rep were rotten to to core before... Trump just let it all out in the open.

And they like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The Republican Party had a choice between Trump or America, they chose Trump over and over again.
Trump was impeached twice… each impeachment was completely justified… the second was for 1/6… in each case the elected GOP dishonored their oaths… if they’d honored their oaths… Trump would’ve been removed… he should have been removed…
Republicans now know that they cannot win with Trump; but they also know that if he torches everything in sight, they can’t win without him either. They are in a political prison of their own making.

Wanna blame Trump for Herschel Walker? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed him too. Wanna blame Trump for Kari Lake? Fine, but DeSantis & Youngkin endorsed her too. Wanna blame Trump…

You get it. It’s not just Trump. They ALL endorsed ALL the crazies.

You want the "Trumpism" without Trump. The Rep were rotten to to core before... Trump just let it all out in the open.

And they like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty.
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Yeah Desantis is a loser.

you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

did no democrats endorse Fetterman? oh but he’s mainstream.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yeah Desantis is a loser.

you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

did no democrats endorse Fetterman? oh but he’s mainstream.

Poor RINO

Here’s the radical platform Fetterman ran on

Make more stuff in America
Cut taxes for working people
Ban Congress from trading stocks
Slash “out of pocket” health care costs
End immoral price gouging

Just more stuff you’re against apparently?

Fetterman agreeing to a debate with those stakes, knowing an entire country would watch, in this cynical age of cheap commentary and social media chatter, while he was recovering from a stroke from just months ago, is one of the most personally courageous acts we will ever witness.

Unlike DeSanctimonious who disappeared when Covid was raging in his state
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Poor RINO

Here’s the radical platform Fetterman ran on

Make more stuff in America
Cut taxes for working people
Ban Congress from trading stocks
Slash “out of pocket” health care costs
End immoral price gouging

Just more stuff you’re against apparently?

Fetterman agreeing to a debate with those stakes, knowing an entire country would watch, in this cynical age of cheap commentary and social media chatter, while he was recovering from a stroke from just months ago, is one of the most personally courageous acts we will ever witness.

Unlike DeSanctimonious who disappeared when Covid was raging in his state
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you left out letting murderers go free, abandoning the fillibuster, etc..

desperately Cherry picking to distort the truth, to fit the narrative. Why do you have to lie, to defeat a dead party.

maybe i am a rino given my stance on gay marriage and the death penalty and gun control.

I’ve asked many times, can you name any meaningful policy positions on which you disagree with liberals? Can you name one.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you left out letting murderers go free, abandoning the fillibuster, etc..

desperately Cherry picking to distort the truth, to fit the narrative. Why do you have to lie, to defeat a dead party.

maybe i am a rino given my stance on gay marriage and the death penalty and gun control.

I’ve asked many times, can you name any meaningful policy positions on which you disagree with liberals? Can you name one.

Poor RINO, those items are from Fettermans platform.

You like DeSantis because he’s low drama but high cruelty, like Dr Oz the dog killer.

Fetterman was on a board and anyone released was vetted by many others.

But apparently opposing mandatory life without parole makes a U.S. Senate candidate “pro-murderer”

Plenty of people would like to see the filibuster go, the procedure is not part of the US Constitution, becoming theoretically possible with a change of Senate rules only in 1806 and not used until 1837.
There have been more than 2,000 filibusters since 1917; about half have been in just the last 12 or so years since they’ve become effortless.
Just another reason Congress can’t function, but you think that’s good.

As far as your usual query, I’m still waiting to see your badge, Officer Fife….
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re pretty worked up over a dead party.

Josh Hawley just now: “This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it. The Republican Party is, as we have known it, is dead. Voters have made that clear—we are not a majority party.”
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[Jim in CT]

so if the gop controls the house but not the senate, is democracy dead? half dead?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so if the gop controls the house but not the senate, is democracy dead? half dead?

depends....we now know that basically everything will die if democraps are not in charge....the planet, the environment, rights, entitlements, the future, the past, your soul, your dog

but....

Schumer is out there warning republicans that they should do certain things or risk the future of their party because he is apparently very invested in the future success of the republican party?...

these people are insane

[Got Stripers]

Must be hard to breath with you head stuck where it is. You think the youth vote turned blue on a bribe of loan forgiveness, really narrow view of the issues they really turned out to vote on. If the left is so gullible and dumb, what does that say about the GOP party and their mid term campaign and results.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You think the youth vote turned blue on a bribe of loan forgiveness, really narrow view of the issues they really turned out to vote on.

Bernie Sanders former campaign press secretary thinks so.....

[Pete F.]

Front page of NY Post “Florida man makes announcement” story on p, 26: With just 720 days to go before the next election a Florida retiree made the surprise announcement he was running for President…he has stated his qualifications include being a very stable genius.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Front page of NY Post “Florida man makes announcement”

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pretty awesome headline !

[wdmso]

The DOJ, the Biden administration, and big tech buried the Biden corruption story.

GOP indeed takes the house, now that story comes out.

Jim there’s no story .

It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .

What does it say about republicans that their more interested in Hunter

Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless

But republicans and many of their supporters are unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law . Why else would walker or lake get the votes the got…. Neither offered anything besides it’s rigged

Like I said a clown car

Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 km (3.5 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

And Trump claimed it was a Russian attack 50 miles into Poland . And the Chinese interfered in the mid terms. lies 5 mins into announcing his Candidacy shocked nope
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .


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pure genius.....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless


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hey, if you and the rest of the loons are so convinced trump is guilty of treason, sedition, conspiracy, theft and selling of nuclear secrets, obstruction, money laundering, election interference, loitering and a bunch of other crimes you can neither pronounce nor spell....why are decocraps so worried about him running again....

is that hack garland going to ignore all of this overwhelming evidence and let him walk right back into the Whitehouse?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

hey, if you and the rest of the loons are so convinced trump is guilty of treason, sedition, conspiracy, theft and selling of nuclear secrets, obstruction, money laundering, election interference, loitering and a bunch of other crimes you can neither pronounce nor spell....why are decocraps so worried about him running again....

is that hack garland going to ignore all of this overwhelming evidence and let him walk right back into the Whitehouse?

Clearly you think Trump did nothing


Not surprised.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Clearly you think Trump did nothing


Not surprised.
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it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

It's his Super Power.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

it's a special kind of insanity where you constantly tell others what you think they clearly think and then respond to what you think they clearly think which is almost always wrong....

This is funny coming from the man who says nothing. Then gets butt hurt when I fill in the blanks . While still not telling us what he’s thinks
With responses that are position -neutral. ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The DOJ, the Biden administration, and big tech buried the Biden corruption story.

GOP indeed takes the house, now that story comes out.

Jim there’s no story .

It’s a right wing fairy tail .. this will be just another feed the base investigation by a party whos leadership and base make up their own facts and reality .

What does it say about republicans that their more interested in Hunter

Than Jan6th and Trumps attempts to overturn the election take top secret documents the list is endless

But republicans and many of their supporters are unethical no integrity dishonest people who put themselves above country and the rule of law . Why else would walker or lake get the votes the got…. Neither offered anything besides it’s rigged

Like I said a clown car

Przewodow, a village in eastern Poland about 6 km (3.5 miles) from the border with Ukraine.

And Trump claimed it was a Russian attack 50 miles into Poland . And the Chinese interfered in the mid terms. lies 5 mins into announcing his Candidacy shocked nope
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Except its not a fairy tale, I don't tell fairy tales. Zuckerberg admitted the DOJ came to Facebook and warned them about the dangers of posting russian disinformation.

Are you saying that Big Tech and the lefty media didn't bury that story? They didn't say it was Russian disinformation? That's a fairy tale?

We know the Trump / Russia investigation was a fairy tale, it was looked into and it was a nothingburger. Maybe the Biden corruption story will be a similar nothingburger. But it's time to find out.

How do you know it's a fairy tale? You did a thorough investigation? Or are you taking Rachael Maddows words for it?