Why isn't the simulas having an effect?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

It's easy for someone who doesn't even live in the town to say. Or buckman who is in no way involved with the schools aside from having a kid that goes to them.

Like I said, aside from this past year, I've been working at the school for almost 7 years. That allots me information that isn't PR crap given to the residents. We'll find out in June what the results will be; that is when the towns are contractually obligated to make all announcements of lay-offs.

Johnnyd. I don't want to sound like a wise ass but.....Are you arguing about school $$$ on my dime?

[JohnnyD]

You guys have to be kidding me? This wasn't some BS spouted out by the school so the town gives them more money. There was a $4Million deficit. Not the "$1.2million we hear about every year."

Do you guys even read all the posts before making a comment or just the posts of people who agree with you?

Since you chose not to read it the first time, I'll copy/paste it for you.

Not threats. It's inside information presented to him personally by a trusted administrator. This info wasn't some public release made by the school. In a formal sense, the School Administration has been a bit mum as to what the actual consequences would be. Very little information has been presented to the town aside from the fact that the school is facing a $4million deficit.

We didn't need a trillion dollar bailout to save a music teacher

You're right we don't. But just about any English, Science, History or Math teacher that has been at the schools for 2 years or less is likely to lose their job.

Let's bring this topic of "the schools are just bluffing like they always do" back up again in June when the Administration makes the announcement about who's getting pink slipped.

With people being handed pink slips across the entire job market, I fail to see how you can be so disillusioned to think the school system is any different.

It's funny, if it involves the national economy, then everything is doom-and-gloom. Yet somehow Mansfield has avoided all these economic troubles.

[fishbones]

Johnny, I'm not doubting your source, but the figure of $4 million seems off the mark. How does a town like Mansfield get that far in the hole? Even with overpaid town employees I find it hard to believe it could be that bad. They may have to make some cuts, but I doubt it will be nearly what you think it will be. My sister in law is in the less than 2 years category and she's not worried about her job.

If you worked for the schools for 7 years then you know what is announced for layoffs and what really happens are two different things, right?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Johnny, I'm not doubting your source, but the figure of $4 million seems off the mark. How does a town like Mansfield get that far in the hole? Even with overpaid town employees I find it hard to believe it could be that bad. They may have to make some cuts, but I doubt it will be nearly what you think it will be. My sister in law is in the less than 2 years category and she's not worried about her job.

If you worked for the schools for 7 years then you know what is announced for layoffs and what really happens are two different things, right?

Absolutely. Every year there is the possibility of program cuts. It's mentioned that this program and that program aren't going to be funded, but things have never been to the extent they are now.

Like I said, we'll all see in 3 months.

Also, does your sister teach at the high school or middle school?

[buckman]

He's scum.

[striperman36]

good enough for me, your more involved than I in that arena

[Cool Beans]

The solution is simple, Ethics, Values, and Live within your means, whether a private citizen, business, city, state or country. If we can't afford it, we either find a way to live without it or less of it, or we utilize the wonder of Capitalism and make more money to pay for it. Increased taxes usually does not increase the revenue (usually decreases it). Makes about as much sense as charging your kids for meals and then having to increase their allowance to pay for it. The money slowly circles in an ever decreasing amount like a terd in the toilet.

PS. More government is just more terds spinning in that toilet.......

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Increased taxes usually does not increase the revenue (usually decreases it)...

This is perhaps one of the biggest urban myths ever pounded into our heads by conservative pundits.

Reagan certainly did cut tax rates and increased revenues, but a lot of this was restructuring of the tax code that spurred international investment here at home. A single event but a good example.

But most of the tax calculations used to prove this point don't factor in the growth in population or business cycles (i.e. bubbles) that have a huge impact on tax revenues. Clinton raised taxes and when you look at it per capita the revenues went up dramatically.

If cutting taxes always led to increased revenues then I'd say we should do away with them completely and enjoy the infinite revenues that would bring forth.

-spence

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by spence

Clinton raised taxes and when you look at it per capita the revenues went up dramatically.-spence

Until enough of the corporations got tired of it, and many moved offshore. If we make it too expensive to conduct business here in the US, big money will almost always find a cheaper place to conduct it. The big money that doesn't becomes not so big money.

Not saying reduce all taxes, mainly don't raise the taxes on business, especially small and medium sized ones. Leaving them alone, or reducing their taxes will allow them to prosper and thus hire more employees, pay more to their employees, and when the company is doing great because of individuals, give them a "bonus".

Trying to say a business owner making over 250k a year, should pay close to 40% of his profits to the government is ridiculous. Let him keep most of that and maybe he can expand and grow his business. It all equals more money for everyone, including the government as each new employee, new store, or bait shop, will all pay taxes.

just my thoughts.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Until enough of the corporations got tired of it, and many moved offshore. If we make it too expensive to conduct business here in the US, big money will almost always find a cheaper place to conduct it.

But there are a lot of other factors that influence companies moving operations offshore. Manufacturing has looked towards labor often less than 10% of here in the USA, and also tried to move to Asia to shorten their supply chains. Many advanced jobs have moved offshrore to take advantage of a growing talent pool, or more recently, limitations in H1 Visas.

The point being, high corporate tax rates are not the showstopper here.

Not saying reduce all taxes, mainly don't raise the taxes on business, especially small and medium sized ones. Leaving them alone, or reducing their taxes will allow them to prosper and thus hire more employees, pay more to their employees, and when the company is doing great because of individuals, give them a "bonus".

This was the claim hammered home by McCain during the campaign, but the facts as I've seen them indicate the impact to small business under Obama's tax plan would be minimal.

That being said, I agree that small business is the foundation of our economy and shouldn't be taxed excessively.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

This was the claim hammered home by McCain during the campaign, but the facts as I've seen them indicate the impact to small business under Obama's tax plan would be minimal.

-spence

Ahh, but you're only looking at the tax impact to the small business itself, what about the companies that do business with the small business? As their tax increases, they look for cheaper alternatives which potentially could drive business away.

[PaulS]

Actually, I thought tax revenue did not increase for like 5 years after the tax cuts.

[bssb]

wow, some of you guys should think about starting a blog.