Roy Moore / Al Franken

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

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Exhibit A in why people not on the East / West coasts give a Big Middle Finger to the talking heads.





I think it's amusing that the same people that voted for, supported, defended people like the Clintons, Kennedies, and many other notable vermin who were elected and reelected to positions in Washington are now aghast and dismayed that the backward state or Alabama NEARLY...sent someone of questionable character and deed to Washington....good grief...yes the "middle of the country" has watched "the coasts" do this for decades and their dirtbags actually WON

love the whataboutism again .. Clintons won the south( and got a BJ) and Ted Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury..

Moore or Trump have accepted no responsibility for their action ..

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

love the whataboutism again .. Clintons won the south( and got a BJ) and Ted Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury..

Moore or Trump have accepted no responsibility for their action ..

Moore and probably the party paid the price politically for whatever he may have done...Trump may yet....neither the Clintons nor Kennedy nor a long list of other democrats paid a political price, in fact, they've been vigorously defended...re-elected and lionized...just like the Alabamans that lined up behind Moore and overlooked his negatives in order to gain politically....the democrats who supported their own democrat dirt bags have no moral high ground when it comes to who the other party may or may not send to Washington, they are no better than those crazy Alabamans...though they love to think they are


we may be making progress though....we now know, thanks to one of the most liberal papers in the country that one of the most liberal states in the country boasts the most racist city in the country....I guess the left is experiencing a sort of moral renaissance thanks to Trump....this should be a positive going forward


but we do have Schumer whining about "legislation being rammed through" now....this from a guy who would gleefully ram his own legislation through if he were running the show....wait...is that "whataboutism'?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

love the whataboutism again .. wl:

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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pretty sure the left is currently leading the league...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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1960s 2017 its that easy


whats was acceptable then and now are not the same but i get it lets throw mud from 50 years ago

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

1960s 2017 its that easy


whats was acceptable then and now are not the same but i get it lets throw mud from 50 years ago

It was acceptable 50 years ago to abandon a woman to die in an auto that you had driven into the water? I was in country 50 years ago. It was not acceptable, unless you were Ted Kennedy. And it was not acceptable for men 50 years ago for married men to philander the way Jack Kennedy did. It's not the morality that has changed from 50 year's ago, it's that the media is far more willing to expose it and even overblow it now for political purposes than it was back then.

Which is peculiar since the media, which includes TV and Hollywood as well as journalism, has been, over the past 50 years, pushing for more and looser sexual freedom. It would seem that it would have been 50 years ago that the media would have been outing everybody, and that in this present age of media produced sexual "freedom," Politicians should be getting the pass they got back then.

But, no, just about everything, morally and political are turned upside down. The reason for that is what we should be in a frenzied conversation over, not this stupid stuff.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=detbuch;1133512]It was acceptable 50 years ago to abandon a woman to die in an auto that you had driven into the water?/QUOTE]

well...if you were a democrat...and then you got to run for president...I know...it sounds crazy...right??

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

1960s 2017 its that easy


whats was acceptable then and now are not the same but i get it lets throw mud from 50 years ago

Have you actually been paying attention to anything except CNN? The implication that the Democratic Party has been clean for 50 years shows you have drank a lot of kool aid
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

love the whataboutism again .. wl:

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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Yes

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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Pretty sure he is talking about how you have to constantly bring up 20 year old incidents to try to make a point. Maybe people should bring up how Anita Hill was treated by the right.

The left has forced all the politicians on its "side" to resign. The right has not. The right elected a man to the most important position in the world who has bragged about assaulting women and walking in on naked people in their dressing room. 650K Alabamians just voted to elect a pedophile to be their next senator.

Never mind discussing all the things in the Trump budget that impacts woman in a negative way (aid to children, CHIP, etc) given they are carekeepers more than men.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Pretty sure he is talking about how you have to constantly bring up 20 year old incidents to try to make a point. Maybe people should bring up how Anita Hill was treated by the right.

The left has forced all the politicians on its "side" to resign. The right has not. The right elected a man to the most important position in the world who has bragged about assaulting women and walking in on naked people in their dressing room. 650K Alabamians just voted to elect a pedophile to be their next senator.

Never mind discussing all the things in the Trump budget that impacts woman in a negative way (aid to children, CHIP, etc) given they are carekeepers more than men.

They are not 20 year old incidents. Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died. So the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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[scottw]

WUT?!?!%$?

December 15, 2017 8:48 AM

Kansas Dem Andrea Ramsey, accused of sexual harassment, will drop out of US House race

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They are not 20 year old incidents.Huh, when did Clinton rape brodrick? Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. Don't forget how the Rep. treated Anita HillProb. bc the conserv. lied about her and him so many times that she didn't believe anything that came out. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died.That was trueSo the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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And the cons. just elected a pervert to the most important position in the world when they had many different option and 650K Alabamians voted for a perverted pedophile who was so bad malls banned him. You use 2 examples and I've shown you which states treat woman worse - most are run by conserv. and have voted cons. for years and years. They are responsible for the laws and policies which seems to hurt women more than the states which are run and voted left. Which sample is larger and thus more credible?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And the cons. ......

you seem desperate

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you seem desperate

He's just pointing out the obvious.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

And the cons. just elected a pervert to the most important position in the world when they had many different option and 650K Alabamians voted for a perverted pedophile who was so bad malls banned him. You use 2 examples and I've shown you which states treat woman worse - most are run by conserv. and have voted cons. for years and years. They are responsible for the laws and policies which seems to hurt women more than the states which are run and voted left. Which sample is larger and thus more credible?

The assaults by Clinton and Kennedy took place decades ago, yes. But the willingness of democrat leaders to ignore thisebtransgressions contnued right up until election night of 2016, when the gop elected a reptile and the clintons simultaneously became of zero value. In that second, liberals claimed to care about perversion. If Hilary had won, we would not be having this conversation.

Let’s investigate the claims of trumps accusers. If he did any of it, then we should deal with it, but not until then. I fail to see how that is unfair.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The assaults by Clinton and Kennedy took place decades ago, yes. But the willingness of democrat leaders to ignore thisebtransgressions contnued right up until election night of 2016, when the gop elected a reptile and the clintons simultaneously became of zero value. In that second, liberals claimed to care about perversion. If Hilary had won, we would not be having this conversation.

Sexual harassment wasn't the same issue it was in the 1990's like it is today. Trump certainly has super charged the movement. As for Clinton, he paid a dear price for his very unethical relationship even back then.

But Bill wasn't running in 2016 and to hold his issues against Hillary wouldn't be fair to her at all.