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				i think it’s everyone’s responsibility i make an informed choice on election day.  that necessarily means knowing the truthful good and bad about who is running.  not just the good, not just the bad. 
 
what a concept!!! 
 
what does it say about the flimsiness of your beliefs, that you can’t comment on biden saying republicans want to enslave blacks, or his comment that conservative blacks ain’t black. 
 
you literally can’t comment.  because even though it happened, you can’t spin it into a positive for biden.  so you ignore it. 
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 Once again you live in the pass it seems blacks don’t have an issue where you have an issue .. I’ll default to blacks feeling on the topic 
 
Yet your party loves lies
 
Georgia's two Republican U.S. senators are calling on the state's top election official — also a Republican — to resign Monday after alleging "too many failures in Georgia elections this year" but without mentioning specifics to support their claims.
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 As I have said. Fraud and influenced are not the same 
 
But some keep claiming they are
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		 Biden a comments are “living in the past”?  he’s the president elect. 
 
incredible.  according to you, there’s no value in looking at divisive comments made by the president elect, before his first day.  what do we evaluate him on?   
 
what are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you simple admitted that he has said some divisive things?   
 
why isn’t it living in the past when you continue to bring up things teump has said and done?  it’s ora fiscally all you guys do.  and it’s fair, obviously. 
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				Biden a comments are “living in the past”?  he’s the president elect. 
 
incredible.  according to you, there’s no value in looking at divisive comments made by the president elect, before his first day.  what do we evaluate him on?   
 
what are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you simple admitted that he has said some divisive things?   
 
why isn’t it living in the past when you continue to bring up things teump has said and done?  it’s ora fiscally all you guys do.  and it’s fair, obviously. 
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				As I have said. Fraud and influenced are not the same  
 
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 Trumps done plenty of both 
Ask the SDNY and Mueller
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				Trumps done plenty of both 
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				do you seriously not see any irony in that statement, given how democrats acted for the last 4 years?   
 
i happen to agree with your notion, it’s just absurd that for 4 years all you did was “not get over”.  the 2016 election. 
 
so it’s ok when liberals throw a temper tantrum, but republicans should suck it up? 
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 Ditto what Eben said, if he hadn’t spent 4 years trolling the entire country you’d have a point here... but that’s not the case
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				Ditto what Eben said, if he hadn’t spent 4 years trolling the entire country you’d have a point here... but that’s not the case 
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				Biden a comments are “living in the past”?  he’s the president elect. 
 
incredible.  according to you, there’s no value in looking at divisive comments made by the president elect, before his first day.  what do we evaluate him on?   
 
what are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you simple admitted that he has said some divisive things?   
 
why isn’t it living in the past when you continue to bring up things teump has said and done?  it’s ora fiscally all you guys do.  and it’s fair, obviously. 
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 Again the past  is not something from yesterday or a year ago unless your just being literal ,,,  again they are not the same as things said and done 6 8 or 40 years ago
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				Again the past  is not something from yesterday or a year ago unless your just being literal ,,,  again they are not the same as things said and done 6 8 or 40 years ago 
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 so what time period is appropriate  to judge biden on?  is it the same 
time period you used to judge trump on?  this is just about as stupid as it gets.  
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				so what time period is appropriate  to judge biden on?  is it the same 
time period you used to judge trump on?  this is just about as stupid as it gets.   
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 Recent history and ancient history it’s self explanatory 
 
Speaking recent history  
Death to all Marxist Democrats" and "Take no prisoners leave no survivors!!"  Police Chief Resigns In Arkansas
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		 Tweety has a new site 
 
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 Actually, he may well have a new site.
 
Because of social medias blocking conservatives, new platforms are happening to give conservatives and free speech folks a place to go in oder to replace twitter and youtube and facebook--eg, Rumble and Parler.
 
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 "Social media platform Parler is topping Apple and Google download charts this week after Joe Biden's election victory over President Donald Trump.  Pitched as an alternative to Facebook and Twitter, the Parler app has pitched itself as a "free speech" social network and is populated by Republican politicians and a variety of right wing personalities who have been exiled from mainstream services.
 
In the U.S. as of today, Parler is top of Apple's free download chart and the Google Play Store, according to data from analytics firm SensorTower, which indicated the app had attracted around 200,000 downloads last month, collectively on both stores.  The exact size of the app's userbase is not fully clear, however Parler CEO John Matze indicated in a post yesterday that it had received up to two million new accounts. "We expected a million or so people today... but 2? You guys are crazy," he wrote.
 
As conservatives reel from Trump's defeat, well-followed users on Twitter have appealed for their readers to sign up to Parler in recent days, mostly citing censorship.  The app currently sits above TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and Instagram in recent downloads. 
Trump campaign advisor Katrina Pierson said last Friday that  Trump joining Parler would make Twitter "irrelevant," saying CEO Jack Dorsey "couldn't interfere with the election or censor Trump supporters anymore" while also promoting her own profile.
 
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		 Biden smoked Trump with the black vote, which is surprising because DeBarr has repeatedly insisted Trump is not a racist and Jim loves to point out how Trump has done more for blacks than even Lincoln.  The election results makes Trump irrelevant, so he can go find another group of minions on Parlor and he can continue to do what he does best; make up stuff and spout BS. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 As he contests the election, Trump has largely stopped governing: 
 
His public schedule hasn’t included an intelligence briefing since Oct. 1 
 
No foreign lead call readout in weeks 
 
No statement on Tropical Storm Eta 
 
No COVID task force meeting in months 
 
Well, if you're gonna fire your SECDEF, might as well stop getting intelligence briefings or defending the country at all.  
 
But he’s still playing golf  
YOLO 
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		 According to polling data analysis by the AP and Tufts University, Black voters under 30, 88% voted for Biden and only 9% voted for Trump. 
 
As racial justice protests ignited throughout the country this summer after the killing of George Floyd by police in Minnesota in May – then accelerated with the shooting of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in August – Americans took sides divided mostly along racial lines. 
 
Trump and Republicans took notice, capitalizing on existing racial tensions and preying on lingering fears of some conservatives of a less white America, where people of color will soon be the majority of the US population. 
 
“[Trump] made a conscious decision to make an enemy of an entire movement for Black lives, going as far to use his authority and justice department not only to excuse law enforcement accountability but to target those within the movement,” said David Bowen, a Wisconsin state representative. 
 
“[Young people are] out here making their voices heard and the power of their vote felt on a president who made a target out of them,” he added. 
		
		
		
		
		
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 this is almost as shocking as "biden smoking trump with the black vote"....
 
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		 Trumplicans are basically saying black votes are illegal, next they’ll say they’re only worth 3/5ths of a vote 
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				Trumplicans are basically saying black votes are illegal, next they’ll say they’re only worth 3/5ths of a vote 
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				i dont know anyone saying that.  but i know who said that blacks ain’t black unless they are for Biden.  and you did t have squat to say about that. 
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 Almost 90% of blacks didn’t care about that but they cared that Tweety wouldn’t say Black Lives Matter, attacked protesters as terrorists and praised his rightwing supporters. 
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				Almost 90% of blacks didn’t care about that but they cared that Tweety wouldn’t say Black Lives Matter, attacked protesters as terrorists and praised his rightwing supporters. 
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 Trump said all lives matter.  Not being racist, I assume that blacks have the requisite intelligence to know that they are included in "all lives."  It could be that racists would have us believe that Blacks might not comprehend the notion of "all lives."
 
Of Course your capitalization refers to the movement not to lives, Black or otherwise.  Actually he has said the name of that movement.  And he has pointed out that it is "destroying many Black lives."  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-10-2020, 01:12 PM
			
			
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				Trump said all lives matter.  Not being racist, I assume that blacks have the requisite intelligence to know that they are included in "all lives."  It could be that racists would have us believe that Blacks might not comprehend the notion of "all lives." 
 
Of Course your capitalization refers to the movement not to lives, Black or otherwise.  Actually he has said the name of that movement.  And he has pointed out that it is "destroying many Black lives." 
			
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 Apparently blacks think he and you are full of baloney  
That’s one of the reasons he lost
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			11-10-2020, 01:49 PM
			
			
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				Apparently blacks think he and you are full of baloney  
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 Well, if it's true that blacks think that all lives matter is baloney, then maybe blacks truly are stupid.  But I don't think so.  I don't categorize blacks as a monolith.  What I think, and I believe that I associate with a lot more blacks a lot more times during a week than most of you guys out East, is that Black Dems and White Dems have this engrained common notion that White "conservatives" are racist.  And that they, as you express it, keep believing.
 
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			11-10-2020, 03:23 PM
			
			
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				Well, if it's true that blacks think that all lives matter is baloney, then maybe blacks truly are stupid.  But I don't think so.  I don't categorize blacks as a monolith.  What I think, and I believe that I associate with a lot more blacks a lot more times during a week than most of you guys out East, is that Black Dems and White Dems have this engrained common notion that White "conservatives" are racist.  And that they, as you express it, keep believing. 
 
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 Most of the people here would tell you that Striped Bass Lives matter. 
That is not saying that all fish do not matter but that they think that there is a problem in the Striped Bass ecosystem and they are concerned about it. 
BLM is no different. 
I don't know much about crappie fishing, so maybe they don't matter anymore than any other fish.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-10-2020, 03:33 PM
			
			
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				Most of the people here would tell you that Striped Bass Lives matter. 
That is not saying that all fish do not matter but that they think that there is a problem in the Striped Bass ecosystem and they are concerned about it. 
BLM is no different. 
I don't know much about crappie fishing, so maybe they don't matter anymore than any other fish. 
			
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 All Lives Matter is essentially saying everything is fine so quit yer beotching. Or as Jarred Kushner so eloquently put it...
 
 "can help people break out of the problems that they're  complaining about, but he can't want them to be successful more than they want to be successful."  
		
		
		
		
		
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