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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Guess you haven’t a clue on what cars and trucks cost in the US

2020 SIERRA 1500 AT4 TRUCK CREW CAB With 25k on it. Is 60k

CERTIFIED
2020 Tesla Model 3
Standard Range Sedan 4D
26,049 miles. 47k

Comparing a full size Pickup to a 4 door sedan is a poor comparison.

2020 Toyota Corolla SE
4 door
24,539 miles
$24k
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Comparing a full size Pickup to a 4 door sedan is a poor comparison.

2020 Toyota Corolla SE
4 door
24,539 miles
$24k
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his was a poor comparison, but it stuck to The Narrative.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Once again, Chess with a pigeon
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Once again, Chess with a pigeon
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Yup.

What do people do, who (1) have to drive to work, and (2) live in apartment complexes that don't have chargers for everyone?

There's a reason why the average income of those who buy electric vehicles, is so high. It's the future, no doubt (I own a lot of Tesla and lithium stocks), but it's not the immediate future. Not even close. We can't generate enough electricity for our needs NOW, which is why they're talking about blackouts.

Batteries don't generate electricity, they store electricity that's been generated elsewhere. Wind and solar aren't going to come close to cutting it.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Yup.

What do people do, who (1) have to drive to work, and (2) live in apartment complexes that don't have chargers for everyone?

There's a reason why the average income of those who buy electric vehicles, is so high. It's the future, no doubt (I own a lot of Tesla and lithium stocks), but it's not the immediate future. Not even close. We can't generate enough electricity for our needs NOW, which is why they're talking about blackouts.

Batteries don't generate electricity, they store electricity that's been generated elsewhere. Wind and solar aren't going to come close to cutting it.

Not to mention those who actually drive for a living, Field Service, Deliveries, Truck Drivers, Contractors, and Sales Folks as a few examples.
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[Pete F.]

No business in this country wouldn’t gladly cut their fuel costs and maintenance in half.
That’s why the transportation industry is moving toward electric vehicles and the change will only accelerate.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No business in this country wouldn’t gladly cut their fuel costs and maintenance in half.
That’s why the transportation industry is moving toward electric vehicles and the change will only accelerate.
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if the cost of the vehicle is high, the vehicles need to be charged frequently,,and there a big shortage of the cheaper fuel ( electricity) any business is going to think twice. duh.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the cost of the vehicle is high, the vehicles need to be charged frequently,,and there a big shortage of the cheaper fuel ( electricity) any business is going to think twice. duh.
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They already have

UPS
Our global fleet includes over 13,000 alternate fuel and advanced technology vehicles, including more than 1,000 electric and plugin hybrid electric vehicles on the road – an essential part of our plans to reach carbon neutrality by 2050 and achieve 40% alternative fuel in ground operations by 2025.

The Freightliner eMobility team is proud to produce the first medium-duty Freightliner electric truck—the eM2—a 100% battery electric box truck entering production in 2022, with zero emissions.

Walmart goes EV in building out last-mile delivery fleet

Retail giant taps GM’s BrightDrop for 5,000 electric vehicles

Kenworth Truck Company is a US truck manufacturer and subsidiary of PACCAR that also owns big names like Peterbilt Motors. The Seattle-based tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g company specializes in Class 8 heavy-duty and Class 5-7 medium-duty commercial vehicles, bringing nearly 100 years of experience to the table.

In 2021, Kenworth entered production of a new “E” line of all-electric trucks including K270E K370E medium-duty models, and the Class 8 T680E that was recently showcased in Las Vegas at CES 2022.

With a growing lineup of battery electric trucks being produced, interest from commercial customers has continued to grow as they discover the benefits to total cost of ownership for electrified fleets.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

UPS has 126,000 vehicles in it’s fleet, so 10% are alternative energy, what about the other 90%?

How about the 290 planes they own, are they ready to go alternative energy?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

UPS has 126,000 vehicles in it’s fleet, so 10% are alternative energy, what about the other 90%?

How about the 290 planes they own, are they ready to go alternative energy?
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and they have enough $$ to buy charging stations. what about people
who live in apartments or condos?
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[Pete F.]

Never happen, it’s impossible….

In one decade, cars replaced horses (and bicycles) as the standard form of transport for people and goods in the United States. In 1907 there were 140,300 cars registered in the U.S. and a paltry 2,900 trucks.

If Americans were all like you, the Interstate Highway system would never have been built.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Never happen, it’s impossible….

In one decade, cars replaced horses (and bicycles) as the standard form of transport for people and goods in the United States. In 1907 there were 140,300 cars registered in the U.S. and a paltry 2,900 trucks.

If Americans were all like you, the Interstate Highway system would never have been built.
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all i did, was ask what about people
in apartments and condos? you’re answer was to lib insults, meaning you have no idea.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

all i did, was ask what about people
in apartments and condos? you’re answer was to lib insults, meaning you have no idea.
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Jim lots of people in apartments and condos have electric cars ? Many see 300 mile ranges and can charge while shopping or at work .

Clearly it’s not a solution for everyone. But this conservative denial from climate change to green energy is just BS and let’s own the libs because they support these advances. It’s just another example of a small minority claiming to represent the majority of Americans

Which is just another lie . Gun control is a prime example. Poll after poll shows the majority of Americans support it. But the party of No. takes the easy road afraid of their rabid base and just says Nope over and over

Just look at the Burn pit vote

A wide bipartisan majority approved the long-awaited bill by a vote of 84-14.

Not sure I’d call that bipartisan
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim lots of people in apartments and condos have electric cars ? Many see 300 mile ranges and can charge while shopping or at work .

Clearly it’s not a solution for everyone. But this conservative denial from climate change to green energy is just BS and let’s own the libs because they support these advances. It’s just another example of a small minority claiming to represent the majority of Americans

Which is just another lie . Gun control is a prime example. Poll after poll shows the majority of Americans support it. But the party of No. takes the easy road afraid of their rabid base and just says Nope over and over

Just look at the Burn pit vote

A wide bipartisan majority approved the long-awaited bill by a vote of 84-14.

Not sure I’d call that bipartisan
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how many people in condos and apartments have electric cars? you got any data? or
just self serving statements?

i’m not denying anything, i’m wY ahead of the curve with conversion, my roof is covered with solar panels and our next car will be a hybrid

You’re the one denying that today wencuidmt even come close to generating the needed electricity, and wind/solar will never, ever get us here.

I’ve asked you several
times where we’ll generate the tins of additional electricity needed. As always, it seems you’re avoiding the question.

There is one viable option, and only one. Nuclear. That’s the exhaustive lest of potential options. And it’s a great option. But the greenies won’t support that, so then we’re stuck in no mans land. You want electric cars, but refuse to concede the realities of where the electricity will come from. Unicorns and hugs don’t generate electricity.






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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

all i did, was ask what about people
in apartments and condos? you’re answer was to lib insults, meaning you have no idea.
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You’re clueless

There’s thousands of businesses working on this
There are already public charging stations and more coming online every day.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You’re clueless

There’s thousands of businesses working on this
There are already public charging stations and more coming online every day.
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there are nowhere near enough charging stations, and even if there were, there’s nowhere near enough electricity.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

there are nowhere near enough charging stations, and even if there were, there’s nowhere near enough electricity.
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You’re talking out your ass

None of the people I know with electric cars are having an issue
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[Pete F.]

You recite right wing tropes like the catechism and think therefore you’re winning.
As far as cost of fuels go, if the producers limit supply to drive prices up do you think the government should step in and set prices. Or should the only time that happens be when oil prices are low.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You recite right wing tropes like the catechism and think therefore you’re winning.
As far as cost of fuels go, if the producers limit supply to drive prices up do you think the government should step in and set prices. Or should the only time that happens be when oil prices are low.
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no, i think i’m winning because the democrats rats control the entire federal government at the moment, and it’s been one disaster after another. Im winning because a USA today poll says that 70% of americans feel the USA, led by the left, is headed in the wrong direction. I’m winning because i made a modest bet after biden won that he’d cause the price of oil
to skyrocket, and it paid off nicely. And i’m winning because 800 people a day are moving to FL, and not to southern CA so it’s not just weather. those aren’t right wing tropes, they’re called “facts.”
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[Pete F.]

Does you have a spare copy of the Republican plan to produce baby formula, slow inflation, end gun violence and ease gas prices?

I've never seen one.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Does you have a spare copy of the Republican plan to produce baby formula, slow inflation, end gun violence and ease gas prices?

I've never seen one.
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gas prices? that’s easy. let it be known that you intend to extract every drop of oil that god blessed us with, and prices will drop. Oil pricing is largely based on anticipation of future events, it’s highly prospective.

as to slowing inflation, that’s not hard either, you don’t print trillions of dollars like it’s nothing ( republicans have a way of preaching this, then spending stupidly when they win).

Americans also like the gop strategy over the democrat strategy, when it comes to crime, immigration…. they don’t agree with the gop on everything god knows, but on these things.

but the gop doesnt need a plan. that’s the advantage of being the minority party when everything is falling apart. all they have to do, is say “we’re not them” and that oughta do it.

people. remember that life was a lot easier right before covid.
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[Pete F.]

You’ll lose because the hypocrisy of the Trumplican Party will come out.

Trump-endorsed AZ Gov candidate Kari Lake, who has been railing against Drag Queen performances, has had a Drag Queen performer in her own house perform FOR HER CHILDREN!
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[Pete F.]

"The idea that inflation is a bigger story than the threat to our ongoing democracy, is incredibly dangerous, because if we don’t understand the threats to our democracy today, we don’t have a functioning democracy tomorrow"
If we don't have a functioning democracy, I can assure you, inflation will be the least of our problems.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"The idea that inflation is a bigger story than the threat to our ongoing democracy, is incredibly dangerous, because if we don’t understand the threats to our democracy today, we don’t have a functioning democracy tomorrow"
If we don't have a functioning democracy, I can assure you, inflation will be the least of our problems.
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you want january 6th to be what people care about, because literally it’s the only card you have.

Unfortunately for you, the polling data is crystal clear, people care that inflation is reducing their take home pay by over $400 a month on average. $5,000 a year in the pocket of an average american family, is infinitely more important.

Plus Trump isn’t on the ballot in November.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you want january 6th to be what people care about, because literally it’s the only card you have.

Unfortunately for you, the polling data is crystal clear, people care that inflation is reducing their take home pay by over $400 a month on average. $5,000 a year in the pocket of an average american family, is infinitely more important.

Plus Trump isn’t on the ballot in November.
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You think Americans will be impressed by this?

The Texas Republican Party just voted to approve new language to their platform that:
—Declares Biden is “not legitimately elected”
—Declares homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice”
—Calls to require kids be taught that life begins at fertilization

Dan Crenshaw was physically assaulted by Right Wing attackers shouting ‘Eyepatch McCain.’ The Log Cabin Republicans were excluded from the Texas GOP event.

“In recent days, right wing politicians and preachers have openly called for killing LGBTQ people.”

When you enable and appease hate, eventually they will always come for you.

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You think Americans will be impressed by this?

The Texas Republican Party just voted to approve new language to their platform that:
—Declares Biden is “not legitimately elected”
—Declares homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice”
—Calls to require kids be taught that life begins at fertilization

Dan Crenshaw was physically assaulted by Right Wing attackers shouting ‘Eyepatch McCain.’ The Log Cabin Republicans were excluded from the Texas GOP event.

“In recent days, right wing politicians and preachers have openly called for killing LGBTQ people.”

When you enable and appease hate, eventually they will always come for you.

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no i don’t think anyone will be impressed by this. but there’s a lot more to the gop than the crazy fringe which you obsess over. the left has lunatics, but i don’t claim they represent all
democrats. No one thinks the lunatic fringe in the right, represents the whole gop either, except you.

Your desperation is showing.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You think Americans will be impressed by this?

The Texas Republican Party just voted to approve new language to their platform that:
—Declares Biden is “not legitimately elected”
—Declares homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice”
—Calls to require kids be taught that life begins at fertilization

Dan Crenshaw was physically assaulted by Right Wing attackers shouting ‘Eyepatch McCain.’ The Log Cabin Republicans were excluded from the Texas GOP event.

“In recent days, right wing politicians and preachers have openly called for killing LGBTQ people.”

When you enable and appease hate, eventually they will always come for you.

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will americans be impressed by this?

left wing zealots are protesting in the street in front of amy barrett’s house, wearing white pants with big bloodstains covering the vagina area.

Are americans impressed by that? do those looks speak for you? are you responsible for what they do? for what AOC says and does?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

will americans be impressed by this?

left wing zealots are protesting in the street in front of amy barrett’s house, wearing white pants with big bloodstains covering the vagina area.

Are americans impressed by that? do those looks speak for you? are you responsible for what they do? for what AOC says and does?
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I'm surprised they didn't quote the 1861 Texas declaration of secession, denouncing the Union's "unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of the equality of all men."
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[wdmso]

17 months after the riot on the U.S. Capitol, "Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy."

But like Liz his comments will be dismissed as he’s a Rino or a never Trumper

His life long conservatism will be diminished by childish name calling
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

17 months after the riot on the U.S. Capitol, "Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy."

But like Liz his comments will be dismissed as he’s a Rino or a never Trumper

His life long conservatism will be diminished by childish name calling
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when you post a quote, you’re supposed to provide the name of the person it’s attributed to.
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