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Old 01-03-2013, 07:09 AM   #1
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The Republican Party has problems Scott. Being fiscally conservative,wanting a budget, protecting our borders, defending the Constitution, Defending the unborn and the sanctity of marriage and expecting those that can work to support their families to work used to be the norm for republicans . Now you're crazy right-winger if you defend those institutions. Stick to your values don't compromise. Brown has become a Republican in name only. No different than Olympia Snow
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the democrat party has become a hoard or raging alcoholics(marxists), many on the republican side fall on an off the wagon depending on how close it is to the weekend ..... some are calling for all of those who are still drinking to take a balanced approach to their booze consumption

Christie Craving Pork-Filled Sandy Bill
Jan 2, 2013 • By DANIEL HALPER

New Jersey governor Chris Christie, a Republican, blasted Speaker of the House John Boehner for ending the congressional session before voting on the Hurricane Sandy relief bill.

"I called the Speaker four times last night after 11:20 and he did not take my calls," said Christie, who said Congress had not delivered on the aid needed to clean-up after the hurricane and Boehner had avoided giving him answers as to why. "There’s no reason for me to believe anything they tell me, because they’ve been telling me stuff for weeks. And they didn’t deliver."

But one of the big objections to the bill was that Senate Democrats had filled it with pork.

In fact, "Democrats expanded the legislation during a mark-up to include not just areas affected by Sandy, but also to provide money for 'storm events that occurred in 2012 along the Gulf Coast and Atlantic Coast within the boundaries of the North Atlantic and Mississippi Valley divisions of the Corps that were affected by Hurricanes Sandy and Isaac,'" we reported previously.

The expansion of the bill was a way to provide a financial incentive for senators from red states--"two Republicans senators from Alabama, Mississippi, and Texas, and the one Republican senator from Louisiana"--to vote for the bill. "The Sandy kickbacks provide an incentive for those Republicans to vote on the bill," we wrote.

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this is great

Purcell: Isn’t this another example of reckless politicians exploiting an emergency to fund pet projects and pork?

Deep Mole: Pet projects? Pork? There is no pork in the president’s proposal.

Purcell: You’re nuts. As this bill worked its way through the Senate before Christmas, Democrats slipped in all kinds of non-emergency goodies. Then they offered more goodies to Republicans to win their support.

Deep Mole: Goodies?

Purcell: Why does the bill include $2 million to repair roof damage at Smithsonian buildings in Washington, D.C.?

Deep Mole: The Smithsonian is a national treasure that Sandy victims may one day visit. We must make sure they are not traumatized by leaky museum roofs!

Purcell: Nice try, my friend. Why does the emergency bill include $336 million for Amtrak-related expenses?

Deep Mole: Amtrak is a common mode of transportation for New York residents to travel to Washington and go to the Smithsonian. We must make sure Sandy victims are not traumatized by broken-down trains.

Purcell: You are clever. Then explain why the emergency bill includes $8 million to buy new cars for federal agencies.

Deep Mole: Many federal agencies are assisting Sandy victims. They need new cars from government-owned General Motors to drive to the areas where government services are most needed.

Purcell: You’re good. Then explain why the bill includes $150 million for fisheries in Mississippi and Alaska.

Deep Mole: Hurricane victims are known to work very hard cleaning up their messy homes and burning excess calories. It is essential they have access to high-protein American fish!

Purcell: Then explain how $4 million for repairs at the Kennedy Space Center has anything to do with a hurricane in the Northeast.

Deep Mole: The John F. Kennedy Space Center has launched many historic flights into space, bringing inspiration and hope to millions of Americans. Aren’t inspiration and hope what Sandy victims need most?

Purcell: Not bad, my friend, but this waste is yet another example of our politicians “not letting a good crisis go to waste.” Our country has almost $16.3 trillion in debt. We are accumulating additional debt at the rate of $150 million an hour — yet the gravy train keeps rolling. Our political leaders are out of control.

Deep Mole: They are?

Purcell: Yes, the Taxpayers for Common Sense explain that the federal government has established a clear definition of what an “emergency” is to determine which incidents or events are worthy of federal relief. Emergency spending should only support something that is necessary, sudden, urgent, unforeseen and not permanent. Those are the rules.

Deep Mole: Rules? The Senate has not passed a budget in more than three years. There are no longer any rules. In our republic the only thing that can stop out-of-control politicians from spending recklessly are the voters — and a majority of them no longer care about what we waste money on, so long as they get their cut.

Purcell: Well, if the pork-laden version of the Sandy bill passes the Senate, the only hope is that the Republican House will do its job and strip out the waste. It is called checks and balances.

Deep Mole: So naive. If Republicans in the House do anything to hold up the bill, the president will tar them for withholding assistance to the victims of Sandy and the media will saturate the airwaves with images of the obliteration Sandy caused. Dumb Republicans can’t win for losing.

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Old 01-06-2013, 04:59 PM   #2
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Being fiscally conservative,wanting a budget, protecting our borders, defending the Constitution, Defending the unborn and the sanctity of marriage and expecting those that can work to support their families to work used to be the norm for republicans .
Good defenition of being a conservative, Buck. ....... Conserving that which is good.

Can anyone tell me what is bad about working within a budget, following the Constitution,
limiting an influx of immigrants to what we can afford, defending the sanctity of life,
the stability of marriage and working to support a family with all the self-esteem
and independence that goes with it???
I doubt it. but I am always ready to listen.

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Old 01-08-2013, 10:40 AM   #3
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Can anyone tell me what is bad about working within a budget, following the Constitution,
limiting an influx of immigrants to what we can afford, defending the sanctity of life,
the stability of marriage and working to support a family with all the self-esteem
and independence that goes with it???
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Of course no one can tell you what's wrong with those things. That's why, rather than telling you what's wrong with those things, liberals will instead respond by calling you a racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, violent, gun-toting, knuckle-dragging, plutocratic, backwards-thinking, 'Hee Haw'-watching, bigoted, white-supremacist, tobacco juice-spittin', wife-beating, hate-mongering neanderthal.

It's a lot easier to hurl insults than it is to tell you what's so wrong with the notion that we not bankrupt ourselves, or why Osama Bin Laden has more of a right to live than an unborn baby.
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Now it seems that those in-bred, trailer-trash hicks in Texas somehow have lowered unemployment to 6.2%, and they have a budget surplus of $8 billion. This, in a state that spends a fortune on services for penniless Mexican immigrants. I guess it turns out that you don't need a massive government infastructure to have lower unemployment.

Connecticut is going broke, Texas has more money (and lower unemployment) than they know what to do with. And here in CT, our high and mighty liberal legislature looks down their noses at those right-wing hicks in Texas. And we're going broke.

Obviously oil has a whole lot to do with that. But it's not everything. The typical response would be to say "it's easy for Texas to have a surplus, they have lots of oil". If that's true, why are 'we' (meaning Obama) denying so many drilling permits? Why don't we all follow Texas' example, to the extent we can?

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Old 01-08-2013, 10:59 AM   #5
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Now it seems that those in-bred, trailer-trash hicks in Texas somehow have lowered unemployment to 6.2%, and they have a budget surplus of $8 billion. This, in a state that spends a fortune on services for penniless Mexican immigrants. I guess it turns out that you don't need a massive government infastructure to have lower unemployment.

Connecticut is going broke, Texas has more money (and lower unemployment) than they know what to do with. And here in CT, our high and mighty liberal legislature looks down their noses at those right-wing hicks in Texas. And we're going broke.

Obviously oil has a whole lot to do with that. But it's not everything.
texas sucks, I am going back to my trailer and kick my cousins, er, I mean wife's butt!

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Of course no one can tell you what's wrong with those things. That's why, rather than telling you what's wrong with those things, liberals will instead respond by calling you a racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, violent, gun-toting, knuckle-dragging, plutocratic, backwards-thinking, 'Hee Haw'-watching, bigoted, white-supremacist, tobacco juice-spittin', wife-beating, hate-mongering neanderthal.

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You forgot one of Obama's favorites, Bible Thumpimg.

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Thank you Scott, that is GREAT.
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True that Scott
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Good read on bailouts related to the fiscal cliff

Secret and Lies of the Bailout | Politics News | Rolling Stone

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