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12-01-2010, 12:22 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: not a clue
Posts: 4,860
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Originally Posted by ProfessorM
It is still Sunday so here is what I finished last week. An up sized flaptail, it's big  . . I made the hardware and the flaptails. You can see in second pic. I have 2 flaptails made. On the plug is an up sized Moore's style flap like on my original size Lido copy and beside the plug an original Lido shape but up sized. I"ll probably use both styles. I also threaded the thru wire 0-80 and made nuts just to make Capesams shake his head why I am not using the spoke method. I just like doing things the hard way.
George I got one in your fav. color  and Art's too. |
after  u three times in the head already I guess the fourth won't knock out that blockage u got stuck in ya upstairs....u need a floor cleaner upper down at the shop at nite? will work fa parts  |
BOAT fish do count.
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11-21-2010, 10:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
Posts: 3,343
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Great stuff guys. The in progress pics give an appreciation into making plugs.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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11-21-2010, 10:58 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Nice box Bruce! Good to see! |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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11-26-2010, 09:01 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Some current stuff
Got ahold of some pichney plugs and am making some troller Jr's, plus needles and big dannies.
The needles are WRC and Birch. Weight and hook placement is the same, but body diameters are different. Trying to get both floaters and sinkers done with the same body style. Both versions weight 1.75 oz all finished up.
Trollers are AYC. I actually did a few trollers and a couple surface swimmers off the pichney body.
Dannies are similar to the original, but have a slightly different weight and slimmer tail.
Last edited by Back Beach; 11-26-2010 at 09:09 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-25-2010, 10:11 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
Posts: 912
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Happy Thanksgiving!!
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
I also would like to thank the great crew here for all the informative threads especially Prof M and Numby for there great photo's, drawings and those great X-rays!!
So who's out there and anyone working in the cave today? I am, that should piss the wife off.. |
 "The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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11-25-2010, 11:57 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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WOODY give it about a month. I will be releasing something soon that you have never seen before as Handcarved KITS.
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11-25-2010, 01:04 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Between 5 and 30 PSI....depends on how thick the color is and if its coverage or detail!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-25-2010, 01:06 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Between 5 and 30 PSI....depends on how thick the color is and if its coverage or detail!
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now your being translucent!! I'll practice practice practice. |
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11-28-2010, 08:12 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I have some very cool and unique stuff going here in the BigFish shop! Winter sucks but it lets me release the creative ideas that pop into my head during the season!! |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-28-2010, 08:18 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Good morning, Larry.
Haven't started turning yet, but I do have a load of mahogany out in the truck. I like working with that stuff for some perverse reason. I do have to get som ayc . I thinking Conrads , needles, and little dannys this year. But nothing is etched in stone.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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11-28-2010, 08:31 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Hi Fred! How you doing? I was thinking of hosting some of you builders for a day of building in my shop maybe after the Holidays??? How many of you might be interested in a play date at my house???
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-28-2010, 08:33 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Too many plans in my head, too much clutter in the cellar, too many things I should do....... inertia sucks.
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11-26-2010, 09:10 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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those dannies pine mike? I made some of those last year, had an original to look at , and they did not swim like I had hoped but I am going to try some more this winter. I am going to try some of my new, lower on the belly, belly weights on them instead of the Pichney style of weighting and see if that comes out better. Same amount of weight just distributed a little lower on the belly . Kind of how my body is starting to morph into as I climb the age chart. Makes me slow and lazy and that is what I want the plug to do. I'm the perfect blueprint. Are you going with the same Pikie style bent up lip?
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-26-2010, 09:14 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
those dannies pine mike? I made some of those last year, had an original to look at , and they did not swim like I had hoped but I am going to try some more this winter. I am going to try some of my new, lower on the belly, belly weights on them instead of the Pichney style of weighting and see if that comes out better. Same amount of weight just distributed a little lower on the belly . Kind of how my body is starting to morph into as I climb the age chart. Makes me slow and lazy and that is what I want the plug to do. I'm the perfect blueprint. Are you going with the same Pikie style bent up lip?
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Dannies are AYC with a NJ tackle .40 round weight in the belly. The weight sits right at the bottom of the belly, almost flush with the wood surface. Lips are going to be pikie 3 mid slots, which is what the original one I own has in it. I already did a demo plug with this setup and I feel sorry for the fish already... 
Seriously though, time will tell. I'm tempted to throw the original in the water just to see what it does, but its the only real collectible plug I own. Finished weight of the original is 3.25 and mine are just about the same. I need to put the lips in my vise afterwards and make the folds so they look like the original. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-26-2010, 11:21 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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If your needles are the same shape (ie displace the same amount of water) and weigh the same, I think you will find they act the same in the water. As for WRC, be careful it is very allergenic. It also is pretty soft stuff which will scar quickly.
As for the Pichneys, the crucial thing on them seems to be getting the balance right. That long slope into the fat belly makes the plug want to plane rather than dig in. The line tie position, the angle of the lip bend, and level/angle the plug floats at all seem to be issues. I had some trouble with these plugs "skating" rather than swimming when I first tried to replicate them.
I have a beater large Pichney SS if you want to swim one. I also have a bunch of fished BM versions you can try. I did find that the BM versions sometimes weighed nearly 4 oz, so there is a lot of variation in these originals.
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11-26-2010, 12:07 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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I can't stand my shop .. hate it the whole time I'm there.. Microclustermess.. sux,, plus I've knocked my furnace out twice with the dust ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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11-26-2010, 12:19 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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 sorry eddie it just hit me funny |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-28-2010, 08:34 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 1,940
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Good Morning Larry-
OD Mike and PRBuzz came over and we make some dannies, pencil Poppers yesterday in my shop. OD Mike brought his JET with his Vega replicator so I learned how the replicator works... I am a hand turned guy to date. We used my lathe for the thru wire holes and mikes for the replicator turning...
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11-28-2010, 08:37 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
Posts: 1,940
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Phil manned the drillpress and drilled weight holes, eye holes, and hook locations..
he is slowly getting into the concept of making plugs.. a WIP
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Blond Terror
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11-28-2010, 08:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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I need to get a notebook going so i can log the ideas as they occur... they disappear in my mind faster than they appear now that i am 56... LOL
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11-28-2010, 09:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: S. Jersey Shore
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blondterror
I need to get a notebook going so i can log the ideas as they occur... they disappear in my mind faster than they appear now that i am 56... LOL
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Suffering from the same problem! Sometimes I stand at the lathe and forget was I was planning to turn 
Thanks to Prof M's drawings of the BM danny I turned two this week and will try w/ two diff. lip locations. Painted some Nike Jr's that were laying around and did a few small needles for friends. |
"The lips stand out because she wants to suck on your Pikie."....Mike Laptew
Van Staal Service/Repair Technician
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11-28-2010, 10:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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I hhope that I'm permitted to do this"
"Over There" in their plug forum, check out the thread "HandCarve Curiousity". OMG!
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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11-28-2010, 10:28 AM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
Posts: 9,511
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Good morning everyone, been turning some poppers, not my own design, but anyway, trying to get enough made for myself next year and to trade at plugfest. It is interesting turning without a dulplicator and working so hard trying to get them all the same.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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11-28-2010, 08:43 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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I may need to acquire a duplicator jig for my lathe ... at $200 they price tag seems well worth it.. Does anyone have an unused Vega Midi duplicator hanging around...
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Blond Terror
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11-28-2010, 08:49 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I am currently also trying to work on completing some Christmas ornaments I make for gifting to friends and relative to hang on their tree! Thats fun......can post some pics later if you like? Heading out to the shop in a few minutes!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-28-2010, 08:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Lexington, MA
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I made some Tiger maple needles that I may temporarily use as Xmas ornaments and then turn into plugs after Xmas... yes please post or PM me your ornament pics... sampled some Dogfish Head IPA (60 min) and some Left hand Stout yesterday while turning... nice way to spend the afternoon with PRBuzz and OD mike
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Blond Terror
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11-28-2010, 08:52 AM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,434
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I think I will try some gliders this winter, but I hold off on starting in the shop till after the new year. I think I understand the basic concept wonder about the length to thickness ratio. I worry that they might cast like potato chips.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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11-28-2010, 08:54 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I like a beer now and again BT but I have a rule...never while I am fishing or working with power tools! Afterwards they taste best!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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11-30-2010, 12:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I think I will try some gliders this winter, but I hold off on starting in the shop till after the new year. I think I understand the basic concept wonder about the length to thickness ratio. I worry that they might cast like potato chips.
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If you mean gliders as in musky type gliders, they'll cast fine. Should have a decent amount of lead in them. One slug towards the front, the other towards the tail.
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11-28-2010, 10:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 448
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I started a bunch of different stuff this week and haven't gotten to finish anything yet. Thanks Paul for the help with those bm dannys, got the stuff yesterday. Still have to paint some pikies, some polaris style poppers, older bm dannys, some needles, and a foiled spook.
I got as far as foiling the spook with onion bag underneath for a scale effect, I'm afraid that when I etex it, it will get under the foil seams and push up the seams as it drys. Is there a way to prevent this? I was thinking of possibly clear coating, painting, then etex?
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