darters...

[GattaFish]

Paul you build some AMAZING jigs

[Slipknot]

are those Cubans George?


Paul, I see, we'll talk about this later on

[Backbeach Jake]

When I grow up I want to be a machinist or cabinet maker..
George, those flames are phenomenal, they look almost real....

[ProfessorM]

You should see my Irish jig.

Nah it just looks fancy because it is shinny and over engineered. You can get same results with precision cut wood. I just got the ways and means so i use shinny stuff. thanks

[Dad 818]

Nice as always Joe.

[angler229]

Nice darters Joe.
Paul that jig is sweet, I want one.
George best flame paintjob I've ever seen.

[piemma]

Professor M, your name suits you. Beautiful jig.

[Karl F]

ah ...jigs...for darter hell...

good stuff

[ProfessorM]

Diggin i don't find the single blade i had to cut the right angle flat at the top of the lip to be wide enough. The dado allows me to get that width and more. It is all coming off in the second angle cut anyway. I use it adjusted to the thinnest setting. If it went thinner I would do so. I don't understand why I would want it wider either as I said it will all come off after in the second cut and that will dictate the final width. I just want that width to be a little wider than my single blade will give me. Also i am using it because it is the sharpest blade I got.

I saw Joe's fixture in person and it is a great fixture. I used some of his ideas in mine. I will end up using something similar for my next procedure. I just feel I will get more consistency in my first cut with the set up I am using now. I don't have the type of set up Joe has for his band saw so that is why I opted to go this route. I also find it not to be too messy as it is a very small cut and not much dust and it is pretty safe, at least for me, as the blade is only a small amount above the table. Of course you need to pay attention and accident's can happen to the best of us. I still may add an adjustable miter groove set up for futher saftey but for now I will use as is.

[eastendlu]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

Diggin i don't find the single blade i had to cut the right angle flat at the top of the lip to be wide enough. The dado allows me to get that width and more. It is all coming off in the second angle cut anyway. I use it adjusted to the thinnest setting. If it went thinner I would do so. I don't understand why I would want it wider either as I said it will all come off after in the second cut and that will dictate the final width. I just want that width to be a little wider than my single blade will give me. Also i am using it because it is the sharpest blade I got.

I saw Joe's fixture in person and it is a great fixture. I used some of his ideas in mine. I will end up using something similar for my next procedure. I just feel I will get more consistency in my first cut with the set up I am using now. I don't have the type of set up Joe has for his band saw so that is why I opted to go this route. I also find it not to be too messy as it is a very small cut and not much dust and it is pretty safe, at least for me, as the blade is only a small amount above the table. Of course you need to pay attention and accident's can happen to the best of us. I still may add an adjustable miter groove set up for futher saftey but for now I will use as is.

You are correct Paul not necessary the way you are doing it.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

Diggin i don't find the single blade i had to cut the right angle flat at the top of the lip to be wide enough. The dado allows me to get that width and more. It is all coming off in the second angle cut anyway. I use it adjusted to the thinnest setting. If it went thinner I would do so. I don't understand why I would want it wider either as I said it will all come off after in the second cut and that will dictate the final width. I just want that width to be a little wider than my single blade will give me. Also i am using it because it is the sharpest blade I got.

I saw Joe's fixture in person and it is a great fixture. I used some of his ideas in mine. I will end up using something similar for my next procedure. I just feel I will get more consistency in my first cut with the set up I am using now. I don't have the type of set up Joe has for his band saw so that is why I opted to go this route. I also find it not to be too messy as it is a very small cut and not much dust and it is pretty safe, at least for me, as the blade is only a small amount above the table. Of course you need to pay attention and accident's can happen to the best of us. I still may add an adjustable miter groove set up for futher saftey but for now I will use as is.

next time you're over I'll explain further
hard for me to type what i am thinking

but why are you making a second cut?

I don't know how tall the flat spot is that is made by the flat teeth of the dado, but that should be all set with one cut.

[Rockfish9]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

Diggin i don't find the single blade i had to cut the right angle flat at the top of the lip to be wide enough. The dado allows me to get that width and more. It is all coming off in the second angle cut anyway. I use it adjusted to the thinnest setting. If it went thinner I would do so. I don't understand why I would want it wider either as I said it will all come off after in the second cut and that will dictate the final width. I just want that width to be a little wider than my single blade will give me. Also i am using it because it is the sharpest blade I got.

I saw Joe's fixture in person and it is a great fixture. I used some of his ideas in mine. I will end up using something similar for my next procedure. I just feel I will get more consistency in my first cut with the set up I am using now. I don't have the type of set up Joe has for his band saw so that is why I opted to go this route. I also find it not to be too messy as it is a very small cut and not much dust and it is pretty safe, at least for me, as the blade is only a small amount above the table. Of course you need to pay attention and accident's can happen to the best of us. I still may add an adjustable miter groove set up for futher saftey but for now I will use as is.

I hear ya Paul, with out a large table and fence, my set up is worthless...ya gotta do with what ya have and feel comfortable with... over 25 years ago, I saw a good friend loose 3 fingers to a table saw while we were putting an addition on his house... to this day, every time I hear the high pitch whine of a table saw, a chill goes down my spine..

[ProfessorM]

i have a few friends who have to trim one less finger nail. Our bandsaw at work is a real pissa saw, old and a very large table but the only problem is it has no slots and no fence and I want to try and do more things at home so that is my main obstacle. I could make a set up for it but would rather wait and get my own.

Thanks Lu, that is what I mean Bruce.

[Rockfish9]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

i have a few friends who have to trim one less finger nail. Our bandsaw at work is a real pissa saw, old and a very large table but the only problem is it has no slots and no fence and I want to try and do more things at home so that is my main obstacle. I could make a set up for it but would rather wait and get my own.

Thanks Lu, that is what I mean Bruce.

If I were to venture a guess, I'd guess Grob...

[numbskull]

He has a 20" powermatic.

Paul, these things look like they work well. I think there are cheaper options, too. You can buy the magnetic switches separately at WC for about $15 (maybe more?) each. Pretty sure you could make your own removable bandsaw fence quickly

Carter MAG FENCE? Universal Magnetic Fence - Woodcraft.com

[ProfessorM]

I rigged up a fence several years ago for it and keep it hidden in the shop. I have already rigged up a subplate with a miter groove in it that I just clamp to the table, hidden from the hacks at work too. I will be using them for the next slope cut most likely. I am very happy with the table saw set up and will stick to that at least for now.

[Rockfish9]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

I rigged up a fence several years ago for it and keep it hidden in the shop. I have already rigged up a subplate with a miter groove in it that I just clamp to the table, hidden from the hacks at work too. I will be using them for the next slope cut most likely. I am very happy with the table saw set up and will stick to that at least for now.

So they steal everything in sight at your shop too.... Happiness is good.... I just finished off( shaping and sealing) a dozen of those Small gibbs darters we were playing with... now if only I had a place to swim them close by...I'm still perplexed by the hook in the middle... they sit as they should in the water... I made a few from maple and a few from birch... the maple sits low in the water ( sealer), almost too low, I have a feeling after epoxy they will be sinkers... ...BTW, I through wired all of these...

[adson]

have you thought about doing a laminated darter ?
WRC top and maple bottom ?
wouldn't sink as much

[Rockfish9]

Originally Posted by adson

have you thought about doing a laminated darter ?
WRC top and maple bottom ?
wouldn't sink as much

Been thewe dont that.. I like Birch better than maple...Most folks fell in love with maple for darters before epoxy coating ( or epoxy sealing) came into voge... on some plugs made of maple, the added wright is enough to adversly effect the plug...

[Mugz]

I think that other than seeing finished products, "Jig/fixture" threads are my favorite threads. One of my weak points for sure is making "jigs/fixtures."

Great stuff......