What is Obama's real agenda-

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

If this is true, he doesn't deserve to be President of the US and Commander in Chief.

Hanging our tropps out to dry for his own politcal reasons is just plain wrong.

I don't see anything that indicates this is the case. The US mid-terms are over a year away and nobody thinks he'd wait that long before moving more troops.

Perhaps he was talking about the Afghan elections, you know, the ones with all that fraud and all?

Obama appears to be taking the time to let alternate scenarios be planned out. A quick influx of troops isn't likely going to make our people any safer, and the implications of a big move will be felt for years.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Perhaps he was talking about the Afghan elections, you know, the ones with all that fraud and all?

-spence

Obama Sends Campaign Team, but Still Loses Afghanistan Election

President Obama refused to recognize the winner of the Afghanistan election. He refuses to send soldiers to protect other American soldiers.

Barack Obama prefers the views of the United Nations, known for its corruption, than supporting the winner of an election, who has been a friend of the United States.

So, now Obama is holding up the sending of the needed, and requested military support. Why, he is not sure about the "credibility" of the election. What he really means is that his candidate lost and that our soldiers need to die for the politics of Obama.

Carville to Advise Karzai Challenger in Afghan Election Contest

By Indira A.R. Lakshmanan, Bloomberg, 7/6/09

Democratic strategist James Carville, who ran Bill Clintons presidential bid in 1992, is helping another challenger: a U.S.-educated rival of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

Carville, who has close ties to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, said his advisory role to former Afghan Finance Minister Ashraf Ghani shouldnt be interpreted as tacit backing by the U.S. for a change of leadership in Afghanistan.

In an interview before leaving for Kabul, Carville said he hadnt discussed his trip with Clinton, and was going for an exploratory visit as a private consultant.

I dont think anybody would veto me doing this, said Carville, 64, who said he has worked on campaigns in 18 countries. Ive worked in Israel when Bill Clinton was president. Its what I do.

Ghani, 60, who has a Ph.D in anthropology from Columbia University in New York and worked at the Washington-based World Bank, is one of 41 Karzai opponents competing in the Aug. 20 elections. Ghani, who became finance minister in 2002, said in an interview with the New York Times in January that he stepped down from that post in 2004 because Afghanistan had been taken over by drug traffickers.

Karzai, 51, came to power with U.S. backing following the ouster of the Taliban in 2001 and has amassed a power base largely through patronage. His government is under increasing criticism at home and abroad for inefficiency and corruption.

If no candidate wins 50 percent of the vote, a runoff will be held in the fall. The Obama administration has called for free and competitive elections, and hasnt officially backed any candidate. The administration has said the elections need to be seen as fair by the Afghan people, regardless of the outcome.

Still, many Afghans would interpret the involvement of an American political strategist with close ties to the Democratic establishment as a deliberate decision by the Obama administration to assist Ghani, said Kenneth Katzman, an Afghanistan specialist at the Congressional Research Service in Washington.

Obama should invite the "GOOD TALIBAN" over to the White House for a beer....he did say that he'd like to work something out with those folks...maybe he could also invite Amadinejad...he's overdue for that little get together...and maybe that communist with the cowboy hat that he's trying so hard to get reinserted in Honduras....

[spence]

The Taliban don't drink.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

The Taliban don't drink.

-spence

they can have what Biden was having....I'm sure the good taliban wouldn't flog anyone for selling or consuming alcohol...after all...they're GOOD

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by scottw

they can have what Biden was having....I'm sure the good taliban wouldn't flog anyone for selling or consuming alcohol...after all...they're GOOD

What is that man consuming?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

What is that man consuming?

If you're talking about scottw, my guess is crack, washed down with kool-ade.

[striperman36]

Funny, I was thinking Biden. The dude actually has a meaningful opinion.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

For every article of research you can post against Global Warming, one can be found that supports it.

Actually, in the peer-reviewed literature, it is ~10-1 or so still, just isn't en vogue with the press right now...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

they can have what Biden was having....I'm sure the good taliban wouldn't flog anyone for selling or consuming alcohol...after all...they're GOOD

Can you actually see news for what it is, or just what you'd like it to be?

Biden never said that.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Can you actually see news for what it is, or just what you'd like it to be?

Biden never said that.

-spence

Biden never said what? I think Spence is drunk today...or maybe it's the medical marajuana......

[Raven]

Originally Posted by justplugit

What is his real agenda?

to kiss everyone's ass
well except the wall street exec's

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I fully agree. Unfortunately, there's no real way to confirm or deny if this is the case.

JD, there are some very close Governor races coming up where he
has done some pretty hard electioneering.

Let's see if he makes his decision before Nov. 3 rd.

Meantime another 12 of our troops killed in Afghanistan.

[Raven]

his speech about not putting soldiers in harms way went over well with the Navy

heck those guys will never set foot in Afghanistan

the US army guys killed were all in the chopper who the taliban claims ........they shot it down...

The burnt up Pakistan student had the right idea though

don't capture them or interogate them -Kill them, he said.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Biden never said what?

You made the comment, what was Biden having?

-spence

[Raider Ronnie]

I thought his agenda was CHANGE

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You made the comment, what was Biden having?

-spence

Buckler...

what did Biden never say?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

Buckler...

what did Biden never say?

He never made the assertion you appear to allude to. It's quite possible that you're just fishing, but you do obviously read the news, or at least some bastardization of it.

-spence

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Raven

his speech about not putting soldiers in harms way went over well with the Navy

heck those guys will never set foot in Afghanistan

Because there are no Navy Seals, Seabeas, or Navy Corpsman helping out over there at all.

REALLY needed to say a few "Serenity Nows" after reading that statement

http://www.modbee.com/local/story/856120.html

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/0...illed_091009w/

http://navyseals.com/navy-seals-kill...at-afghanistan

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/190/story/10302.html#

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

He never made the assertion you appear to allude to. It's quite possible that you're just fishing, but you do obviously read the news, or at least some bastardization of it.

-spence

I never alluded to Biden making any assertion...you appear to be condescending without a clue again...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I never alluded to Biden making any assertion...you appear to be condescending without a clue again...

So I guess you're just confirming that your posts really are meaningless.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

So I guess you're just confirming that your posts really are meaningless.

-spence

no, I think you're just so desperate to lash out at someone that you are making stuff up but if that makes you feel better...have fun.....and try to think before you post next time Oh, crap...that sounded just like JD


Spence, what is Obama's real agenda? be honest...and don't say Hope and Change....

[spence]

If your post had meaning then let us know. Otherwise it would be you who's making stuff up.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

If your post had meaning then let us know. Otherwise it would be you who's making stuff up.

-spence

"us" ?...you are such an angry little man

and I forgive you...

[justplugit]

Another 8 of our troops killed today in Afghanistan.

That makes the month of October the worst loss for American troops
since the start of the war.

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

"us" ?...you are such an angry little man

and I forgive you...

Just to confirm, that you're using words like "Biden" and "Taliban" in context with one another with no meaning what so ever.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Just to confirm, that you're using words like "Biden" and "Taliban" in context with one another with no meaning what so ever.

-spence

you are making less and less sense with every post, maybe you should lay down and try to relax...you appear to be struggling for a coherent thought...I'm worried about you, can I call someone for you?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are making less and less sense with every post, maybe you should lay down and try to relax...you appear to be struggling for a coherent thought...I'm worried about you, can I call someone for you?

I'm quite relaxed.

If you can't articulate what you meant by that post, then there wasn't any meaning. I wonder why you even made it?

What did Biden say?

I think I may know what you might have meant, but given your difficulty in expressing yourself I'm not so sure it's right. Are you just twisting news reports, parroting a Right Wing pundit or simply half baked?

Not sure I can come up with the answer to that if you're going to be so tight lipped.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm quite relaxed.

If you can't articulate what you meant by that post, then there wasn't any meaning. I wonder why you even made it?

What did Biden say?

I think I may know what you might have meant, but given your difficulty in expressing yourself I'm not so sure it's right. Are you just twisting news reports, parroting a Right Wing pundit or simply half baked?

Not sure I can come up with the answer to that if you're going to be so tight lipped.

-spence

I never said that Biden said anything...

You said that Biden never said "that"...what ever "that" is.... I have no idea...you are on some nonsensical Right Wing hating rant....keep going, this is fun...I knew that you'd lose it eventually....Neocon..blah blah blah....Fox News...blah blah...Cheney Haliburton...blah blah....half baked pundint twisting Republican evildoer...blah blah...starting ...to....realize......O...b...a...m...a... really.....sucks.....can't........cope....with ......the....disappointment.....

[The Dad Fisherman]

I'm waiting patiently for the dreaded "I know you are but what am I" line from one of you 2.....

[scottw]

The term "narcissistic rage" gets 26,000 citations in Google Scholar. It is a common feature of extreme or pathological narcissism.
While most people are pretty hard to predict, extreme narcissists are comparatively simple. They constantly hunger for ego gratification, they are immature, constantly need to demonstrate their own superiority, are manipulative, constant liars and they deal with frustration by uncontrollable fits of rage.

Randomly lashing out at and mischaracterizing and impuning anyone that disagrees with or is disagreeable to them... like say Fox News, Tea Party attendees, Cambridge Police, "Neocons", people that cling to their guns and Bibles, talk radio, Humana, the list is quite long in just 9 months.....the "thinness" of the skin is stunning....

According to the New York Times,

"Speaking privately at the White House on Monday with a group of columnists and commentators, including Rachel S. Maddow and Keith Olbermann of MSNBC and Maureen Dowd, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert of The New York Times,

President Obama himself gave vent to sentiments about the (Fox) network, according to people briefed on the conversation... " (italics added).

US News and World Report wrote:

Team Obama was pushed over the brink by a growing list of what it considered outrageous anti-Obama conduct by Fox that showed no sign of stopping. Obama's advisers say that they seethed while Fox commentators used their shows to encourage protests against Obama's healthcare proposals last summer. Team Obama fumed as Fox personalities tried to pressure some controversial Obama advisers to resign.

In the first nine months in office President Obama and/or members of his administration have accused doctors of performing unnecessary medical procedures for profit; demonized bond holders as ‘speculators'; produced a report suggesting military veterans are prone to becoming right wing extremists; attacked insurance companies and threatened them with legislative retribution; ridiculed talk show hosts and political commentators by name from the White House podium; dismissed and demeaned protesters and town hall attendees as either unauthentic or fringe characters; maligned a white police officer for arresting a black man without knowing the facts of the case; launched an orchestrated campaign to marginalize the country's biggest pro-business group; and publicly declared war on a news organization.

whatever this President's "real" agenda, he proven himself to be a thug and anything but "Presidential" in his actions and in so many ways....but, hey...he's got three more years to try to improve.....