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12-19-2005, 12:39 PM
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Location: Georgetown MA
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Originally Posted by Skip N
What personal freedom are we giving up in this whole spying thing!? They are spying on suspected terroists not you and me for god sake!?
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Please Define "Suspected Terrorists"
What makes one fall into this category. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-19-2005, 02:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Stratford, CT
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I would be very curious to have anyone name one US citizen that lost any of their civil liberties as a result of the patriot act. Non US citizens do not have civil liberties from the US constitution.
The ability to defend our country by whatever means necessary is what we have lost
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12-19-2005, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
"I think this whole terrorist thing has gone way to far"
Way to far are you kidding me? what you think its some big scam and made up?
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No, But its definitely becoming a convenient excuse. Everytime this administration makes a mistake we here that word. Its like their own little "Get out of Jail Free"card. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-19-2005, 12:30 PM
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Location: Seekonk
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
No, But its definitely becoming a convenient excuse. Everytime this administration makes a mistake we here that word. Its like their own little "Get out of Jail Free"card.
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Please give me an example of when the administration used terroism as an escuse to cover thier ass on a non terroism related topic? Are they out there blaming terrosism for people not having jobs or something? This outta be good... |
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12-19-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Please give me an example of when the administration used terroism as an escuse to cover thier ass on a non terroism related topic? Are they out there blaming terrosism for people not having jobs or something? This outta be good...
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Oh I don't know....But Spying on the Public illegally comes to mind. Which is what this thread is about. |
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12-19-2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Are they out there blaming terrosism for people not having jobs or something? This outta be good...
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"The march to war affected the people's confidence. It's hard to make investment. See, if you're a small business owner or a large business owner and you're thinking about investing, you've got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you're marching to war, it's not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it's the opposite of optimistic when you're thinking you're going to war. War is not conducive to -- for investment.
-- George Bush -- Springfield, Missouri, Feb. 9, 2004
I think thats what he's saying here....but sometimes i need to buy a vowel when reading his speeches.
and the War in Iraq IS Directly linked to the War on Terrorism......in W's own words. |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-19-2005, 02:29 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Originally Posted by Skip N
Please give me an example of when the administration used terroism as an escuse to cover thier ass on a non terroism related topic? Are they out there blaming terrosism for people not having jobs or something? This outta be good...
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Hmm.. the War in Iraq comes to mind..... |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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12-19-2005, 12:53 PM
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Retired Surfer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sunset Grill
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The Constitution
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
We the people of the Unitied States-legal resident only.....
insure domestic tranquility....ah whats this
promote general welfare.....well-being of our residents
Does anyone here realize how elastic the constitution is?
Both sides of the argument in this post is all here in the preamble. |
Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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