Clunkers

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Well if you can't figure out why.....
They're vehicles are %$%$%$%$

Exactly.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I read last night that Obama is going to give a unprecedented nationwide talk to kids in school. Wonder if he's going to announce their new tax structure to pay for the clunkers program.

I'm pretty sure that won't be mentioned. I think it's their bold "wash your hands" plan for the swine flu.

[Raven]

just a ploy to insert a tracking device

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Raven

just a ploy to insert a tracking device

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

I dunno Bill I went GM years ago and never looked back. Bought a cavalier and loved it. Lumina used, and I'll be buying another GM soon too. Was always Ford. My current is a 8500 lb van and it's the third gmc van I've owned. Drive it hard. Sold my first awd safari to a lawyer who continued to drive it to 300,000 miles. Bought the Savana and ran that thing alot. Sold it for good money to a woman in upstate Michigan to deliver newspapers. She's still running it at 230,000 miles last time I heard from her.

Just changed the tires on the van yesterday at 45k miles. Minimal maintenance on the van save an egr valve under warranty, brake turnings and one ball joint. Always 5k mile oil changes.

That doesn't tell me they suck. I can't say the same thing about all the Fords I worked on over the years.

Don't mean to hijack but am throwing my .02 in



I read last night that Obama is going to give a unprecedented nationwide talk to kids in school. Wonder if he's going to announce their new tax structure to pay for the clunkers program.

Fuel mileage on US cars suck. I and don't like the ergonomics.
I got 188K out of the Dakota.
I am don't like the fact that I cant get a small diesel engine like the Volvos in the US that gets 60 mpg. better than the Prius.

Toyotas are great vehicles and if I could have gotten the diesel version I would have gotten one. As of now, you know I have the Jeep diesel from the only year they really worked, 2006.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Fuel mileage on US cars suck. I and don't like the ergonomics.
I got 188K out of the Dakota.
I am don't like the fact that I cant get a small diesel engine like the Volvos in the US that gets 60 mpg. better than the Prius.

Toyotas are great vehicles and if I could have gotten the diesel version I would have gotten one. As of now, you know I have the Jeep diesel from the only year they really worked, 2006.

I completely agree with you. This is why the US auto companies are failing and why I was against throwing good money at a bad business plan.

I believe the US market refuses to accept that diesels are a better alternative to gasoline. According to a colleague of mine from London, diesel has become somewhat of the fuel standard in the UK as more and more customers are seeing the benefit.

I think a large issue with making diesels mainstream in the US is the stigma from 30 years ago about how nasty diesel is with the soot and other byproducts from combustion. People don't realize that the same size diesel engine is typically more efficient than the gasoline alternative.

The Mach trucks going down the high way spewing black smoke from their pipes doesn't help this much though.

[buckman]

Hate to rivive an old thread just as proof to the incompetence of the current administration but what the hell....
White House fights back on Cash for Clunkers - Yahoo! Finance

Health care ought to be a pissa