Have Hillary's chickens come home to roost?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, I think we also now know, that classified emails were stripped of their classified status, and then sent to her server. That is more than one felony.

You don't know that.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

It means never sent or received any classified or top secret emails on her server.

If information passed through her email that was later classified that doesn't mean she sent or received. I doubt she'd be making that statement without her attorney's doing a careful scrub of the content.

Also, classification isn't a black or white subject. It's often quite subjective...

The FBI should stop it's investigation immediately.

[Jim in CT]

2 days ago, she jokes at a rally that she opened a snapchat account, and loves it because messages are deleted immediately. Haw, haw, haw! Mishandling of top secret messages is so funny!

Yesterday, a reporter asked her if, as the FBI suspects, her server had been wiped. She replied "what, do you mean with a cloth"?

Is this what we want, another 8 years of a POTUS who will parse and obfuscate, never just being honest?

Jerk.

[Nebe]

You know what's sad? The ignorance of the American people. The ignorance to let this bull#^&#^&#^&#^& distract them from what really matters.. Her political agenda. In all honesty I wonder if she actually wants this to happen so she doesn't have to talk about what she plans to do if elected.
Damn the 24 hour news cycle, which perpetuates endless drama in the name of "news".

Let's hear some promises so she can break them later
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You know what's sad? The ignorance of the American people. The ignorance to let this bull#^&#^&#^&#^& distract them from what really matters.. Her political agenda. In all honesty I wonder if she actually wants this to happen so she doesn't have to talk about what she plans to do if elected.
Damn the 24 hour news cycle, which perpetuates endless drama in the name of "news".

Let's hear some promises so she can break them later
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If she mis-handled classified material, and then lied about it, that doesn't really matter? She may well have committed a felony. If that doesn't matter to you, that's your right. It matters to many others.

If the Secstate committed a felony, that's not news to you?

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If she mis-handled classified material, and then lied about it, that doesn't really matter? She may well have committed a felony. If that doesn't matter to you, that's your right. It matters to many others.

If the Secstate committed a felony, that's not news to you?

It just strikes me as kind of sad that everyone is looking for the "gotcha!" Moment.
I really wish she would just go away... She's really just a republican in Sheeps clothing.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

It just strikes me as kind of sad that everyone is looking for the "gotcha!" Moment.
I really wish she would just go away... She's really just a republican in Sheeps clothing.
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"It just strikes me as kind of sad that everyone is looking for the "gotcha!" Moment" True, and many are doing it for purely political reasons.

"She's really just a republican in Sheeps clothing."

Then what's Marco Rubio, a Nazi?

[Nebe]

Wasn't she a republican when she was younger ? Before she got into politics?
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[ecduzitgood]

I wonder if Bill is secretly hoping that she does time.
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[Nebe]

We the people for the people.
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[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Nebe

We the people for the people.
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Amazing how quickly they forget as soon as they get into office.
I'm sure the Founding Fathers felt it was an honor to serve the people.
I still feel each candidate should only be allowed to spend the same amount
of $ to run for office and shorter term limits applied.
It will never happen as they would have to initiate the change.

Think about it, most of these Congressmen are lawyers capable of making
mega bucks a year but choose to work for less than $200, 000 a year.

IMHO it certainly isn't because they want to SERVE the People.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Amazing how quickly they forget as soon as they get into office.
I'm sure the Founding Fathers felt it was an honor to serve the people.
I still feel each candidate should only be allowed to spend the same amount
of $ to run for office and shorter term limits applied.
It will never happen as they would have to initiate the change.

Think about it, most of these Congressmen are lawyers capable of making
mega bucks a year but choose to work for less than $200, 000 a year.

IMHO it certainly isn't because they want to SERVE the People.

It goes kinda like this.


http://youtu.be/CkTBf7HW_rg
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[PaulS]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...lumn/71421242/

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...lumn/71421242/

That article does absolutely nothing to change what I stated....

[spence]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...74b_story.html

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...74b_story.html

"“It’s common” that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information, said Jeffrey Smith, a former CIA general counsel who’s now a partner at Arnold & Porter, where he often represents defendants suspected of misusing classified information."

Interesting that this Jeffrey Smith frequently quoted in you article was several times an adviser to The Clintons

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...email-scandal/

[Jim in CT]

Scott, she just comes across the the least authentic, least sincere person on the planet...that's assuming she is actually a person and not a robot. At every press conference, I expect her to seize up and utter "oil can" out of the side of her mouth like the Tin Man from Wizard Of Oz.

I want someone to debate her who will ask her why she believed she was shot at in Bosnia or wherever, and whe she thought it unlikely the her husband was cheating on her, and more likely that he was being framed by the Republicans. What is her response to that? War on women?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I want someone to debate her who will ask her why she believed she was shot at in Bosnia

As it has been stated here many times before, if you can't be
trusted in little things, you can't be trusted in big things as has been
proven time and time again by Hillary.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

As it has been stated here many times before, if you can't be
trusted in little things, you can't be trusted in big things as has been
proven time and time again by Hillary.

Agreed. But we need someone who will club her with that.

I saw Ben Carson give, what I thought was, a great answer on his abortion views. He said, and I am paraphrasing, "I worked most of my career as a pediatric neurosurgeon, often working on babies, including babies in the womb. I can't tell you how many times my team and I fought with everything we had, as hard as we could, all night long, desperately trying to save these precious babies. So no one who knows me, would be surprised to hear me say that no, I don't think we should be killing babies for convenience."

[justplugit]

Yes, Ben Carson is an honorable man and tells it like it is.
IMO, once a heart beat is started you are killing an innocent child with abortion.
A women has a choice in the matter but who represents the child"s rights?

Rape , incest, threat to a mothers life are a different matter, but the first two cases can be handled with the day after pill while in the last case ,it may take
longer to diagnose. Understandable.

I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Yes, Ben Carson is an honorable man and tells it like it is.
IMO, once a heart beat is started you are killing an innocent child with abortion.
A women has a choice in the matter but who represents the child"s rights?

Rape , incest, threat to a mothers life are a different matter, but the first two cases can be handled with the day after pill while in the last case ,it may take
longer to diagnose. Understandable.

I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

Pretty legit right there. That pill should be available as an over the counter medication. No questions asked.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

I think Ben Carson will become a lot stronger candidate as the debates
continue.

I think you are correct. He just reeks of decency, thoughtfulness, and competence (in my opinion...plus, naturally, I agree with him on most issues). His favorability ratings are insane, it's just that a lot of people don't know who he is, but those that know of him, really like him. I was assuming he'd be out before he had a chance to get in front of many people, but it appears I was wrong on that score. I don't know how his fundraising is going.

[Nebe]

Yup
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[Fishpart]

Why is it the only part ofThe Constitution libs believe in is the 5th ammendment, seems like all else is up for negotiation...
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[justplugit]

I think they should review Hillary's Top Secret Clearance to determine, even
now , if she would be eligible to keep it, let alone qualified to run for President.

[spence]

You both have a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You both have a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.
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this reminds me of one of those snobby obama remarks about being a "Constitutional law professor" and therefor know more about the law etc. than others... but in fact, constantly he proves that he knows almost nothing about the Constitution or the law and is rather, well practiced in various ways and rhetoric to undermine the law and Constitution, deceive and make a lotta chit up

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

You both have a fundamental misunderstanding of the law.
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Please enlighten us ,Spence. My understanding of TSC is if you are going to work
in a national security position your complete background is personally checked by interviews with the FBI. When I was dating my wife the FBI came to my house and even interviewed my parents as well as myself and many from her job etc. in order for her to get TSC,

There is a "need to know" in order to receive or send classified information.
This is non negotionable, you are dealing with National Security. What could be
more important then to safeguard it. If any one does not lock their office files
overnight they get 3 chances, then lose their TSC and get's fired immediately.
Nothing can leave the workplace.

So you mean Hillary using her own unsecured server for sending and receiving
classified and TSC information should be allowed to keep her TSC ?
No need to goggle the law, common sense says she broke it by using her own
unsecured server, deleted 1000's of e mails when she was found out and refused to turn it over until she was forced to by the FBI.
Spence, you are dealing with our national security upheld by a top government official, and liar to boot. She either had her own reasons to do what she did or she was stupid for not knowing the most important law she was working under.

Time will tell.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Please enlighten us ,Spence.

My remark was in context of pleading the 5th an admission of guilt.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

My remark was in context of pleading the 5th an admission of guilt.

Spence if UUUUUUUU ever in front of a jury and going to plead the 5th UUUUU best speak up and ask if Flyrod is in the jury.......GUILTY....GUILTY......LOL....