Lets see some Darters!

[Rich / In2Bass]

Here goes again ...

[Flaptail]

I made these about fifteen years ago. I made ten of the bigger ones in variuos colors ( Bliz has a blue/white one in his display thingie I gave him and Slip grabbed an all black to copy when he was over a couple weeks back) The little one is the last of the smallest ones I made in jointed and of the ten or so I made of these this too is the last one. ( I gotta make more) I made a much bigger version and Jim Greicci took it and was considering making a version then he sold the company and I never got my one and only test one back.

[Nebe]

ohh I like where this thread is going!!!!

Rich- those are some cool darters.. how do they swim??? they remind me of a bottle plug.

Flaptail- you read my mind!!!! that jointed darter i posted had inspired me to try and make a darting needle.... long and skinny... a nice little slope on the nose..... basically exactly what you posted Did those catch well for you when you were fishing them?

[Flaptail]

Oh yes! The trick, as in needle fishing, was S-L-O-W-L-Y retrieve them and they snake thru the water. I can't wait to see Slip's version.

[Nebe]

[NIB]

I been to Slips an his garage is a graveyard for proto's an plugs to copie. good luck ever seen one o those.CS gave him a plug to copie I think CS turned it drilled it an did everything but the prime an paint.an he still aint put it together.

[NIB]

Originally posted by capesams
just a thought....although I've never made one,,I look at the top of the plug an see atleast half the wood gone...now to my way of thinking[even with hardwood] that without lead in the belly and most of the wood on the bottom side, any plug is going to roll out upside down. I see two types of darta's being built,,,,chuppy an thin....will the real darta please stand up I have a Danny p, it's by far the largest darta I,ve seen to date...should I try my hand and copy this one??

it comes in upside down when it pops out of the water.If u could match the Danny P.to a beachmaster. u would see they are similar.Musso's wooden one is closer to a Tatoo but its smaller in diameter.kinda between a tattoo an a Gibbs.copie a gibbs 2 5/8 an make it a little fatter with the head just a little smaller than the middle.an u basically have it My Favorite.No Lead....

[Slipknot]

Originally posted by NIB
I been to Slips an his garage is a graveyard for proto's an plugs to copie. good luck ever seen one o those.CS gave him a plug to copie I think CS turned it drilled it an did everything but the prime an paint.an he still aint put it together.

Ha ha ha , you funny guy

that CS is a master copy to model after, it stays as is.

I want ALL the plugs every plug ever made

[capesams]

NIB..what I have noticed on some [that won't b seen on any site] is that the upper lip? is very small,,and the lower lip is at a steeper angle than what I've seen on most....these plugs were slim as well,,,on straight an jointed as well. the backs were cut almost to the rear and the line loop was further up from the smaller upper lip.

[Nebe]

heres a lupo darter from mr tattoo's collection

[NIB]

Hey Steve how bout postin a pic of the lip.Ebster. nice pics. the mussuo is just like that but the tail is turned thinner I like it better like that I think it casts better an looks more groovy.I made one this smornin like a bob hahn stubby 5 inches an 1 3/8 at its widest part i just sealed it so I'll see how it swims later.One of those LI guys made one like it also.I think BM it wieghs 2 oz.

[Nebe]

Nib whats your feelings on hooks? One forward of middle? or 2. I made all of mine with one hook- I always rig up my beachmasters with one 4/0 on the head and thats it- When I do this to the BM's they really dig deep, as the head is heavier..

[capesams]

Nib...sorry no pic's...I was lucky to get to see the plugs...as they r hidden under the guy's truck seat and never get taken out if there's anyone else is around.....secret chitt don't ya know

[Breezy]

cs, like this lil guy from 'bay

[Nebe]

not darters, but i think these are Musso dannies...

wonder how many fish they caught??

[Nebe]

Some more Darter porn.... I think i'm getting obsessed with these

[Nebe]

[NIB]

Nice pic are they urs.

[Nebe]

no they are SOL member's... i dont remember who made the ones with the fancy paint and the lower one was posted my Paulbo.

[bassmaster]

darter

[Nebe]

ahhh darters

Now the question is... "when do you throw a darter?" Goosefish opened my eyes to darters, and then Tlapinski proved to me that darters arent just for fishing outflows... June cant come fast enough

[NIB]

Eben there are four musso's in that last pic.one thin one looks like the last wooden one maybe a proto to his plastic model.

[capesams]

Breezy........that lip looks like the same one

[Nebe]

Originally posted by NIB
Eben there are four musso's in that last pic.one thin one looks like the last wooden one maybe a proto to his plastic model.

yer right... in paulbo's post he said that that the ones on th eleft were musso's... except for that ditaki (sp?) on the top.
I just got some hard maple from a friend so i'll give it a whirl tomorrow

[NIB]

in NJ I always have one or 2 in my bag I am partial to the gibbs.Any time i have a sweeping current i will break one out.I have done good with the yellow,Bl.purple an black scale.i have one 1 1/2 one in black an silver bottom thats killed for me.Actually I don't care for em in a direct outgoing pull as they seem to pop out more frequently.In Montauk i prefer the Super strikes dark colors an white an pink an yellow an white an chartruese an white.had many good nights on a chartruese an white.Seems for me the thinner profile ones always produced better.I fished watch hill one time an i threw a black an purple one I made.i did pretty well throwin at this school bus sized rock till the water disappeared.

[NIB]

I have one in a package made by a NJ guy name berksomething.Called em Surf Master Lures from neptune NJ.i had a chance to buy 1200 turned blanks for almost nothing but i didn't return the call fast enough he made them prbly15- 20 yrs ago an made a mint wit em in montauck i never see em on any of the post's of darters people put up.One of the nicest through wire production darters i seen.he paid some one to turn the bodies an would do the rest.

[Nebe]

Thanks nib.. I agree about casting straight down current, One night i learned my lesson when I only brought darters with me and the tide was really cranking....I had to switch to jigs because my darters were rolling out.
My next batch will have more of a taper in the tail and i'll turn the body a nit narrower. Also it looks like those mussos have a slight taper in the nose too so i'll give that a shot-

[bassmaster]

Originally posted by Eben
ahhh darters

Now the question is... "when do you throw a darter?" Goosefish opened my eyes to darters, and then Tlapinski proved to me that darters arent just for fishing outflows... June cant come fast enough

there are 2 musso's hanging up there.
1 is black and the other pink
i like yellow darters at chatham inlet and i toss 3 hook gibbs in the bay in june some times.
but my fav is the inlet
I use to throw them in the canal in the 70s and 80s and still have the same blue and white darter I bought from Bunny
the lips use to get messed up on the rocks.
they make there rounds in the bag
but the inlet aint been as good as it coulda been.
I snapped a 1083 xra on a yellow darter tatto made me
10X10 and I was beating the %$%$%$%$ out of nice bass, they would stop on the needle and turn on the darter and vice versa.
I made some really nice darter and lost them but i have the master blanks still for my desighn.
dont make many as I dont toss them alot so My stash is good.

[NIB]

Very little taper in the nose look at the bottom its almos flat.

[NIB]

Originally posted by bassmaster
there are 2 musso's hanging up there.
1 is black and the other pink
i like yellow darters at chatham inlet and i toss 3 hook gibbs in the bay in june some times.
but my fav is the inlet
I use to throw them in the canal in the 70s and 80s and still have the same blue and white darter I bought from Bunny
the lips use to get messed up on the rocks.
they make there rounds in the bag
but the inlet aint been as good as it coulda been.
I snapped a 1083 xra on a yellow darter tatto made me
10X10 and I was beating the %$%$%$%$ out of nice bass, they would stop on the needle and turn on the darter and vice versa.
I made some really nice darter and lost them but i have the master blanks still for my desighn.
dont make many as I dont toss them alot so My stash is good.

What happened to the mac Darter.