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02-04-2010, 06:05 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I wnder if you could just wrap a swivel into your tailwrap, use a tiny loop.
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yea ,, you can ,, I've done it ,, I thought the Fishmaster way was cool . |
Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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02-04-2010, 06:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Oh man, this PlugFest is gonna be something else!
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02-05-2010, 08:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
Posts: 7,666
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I FIGURE WIRE THE SWIVEL IN THE END LOOP THEN ADD A SPLIT RING.
SPEAKING OF SWIVELS DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE FRONT SWIVEL ON THE GTS-3 GIBBS TROLLING SWIMMERS PERFORM A NEED FROM SHORE?
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Billy D.
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02-07-2010, 08:51 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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2 weeks to go. I've been up since 6 epoxying. Going to church next to pray for divine intervention. About a hundred to go, 12 at a time in the spinner, Most still need paint, then there is all the rigging. Not looking too hopeful. Need to rethink this better next year. Still have a load of other stuff I wanted to build this winter.
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02-07-2010, 08:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
Posts: 7,666
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Hey where's everyone? At least we don't have mountains of snow on top of us! Hopefully on my last batch of plugs to e-tex. Plugfest entries are painted and ready for coating. The flaptail version is sweet. I mentioned earlier on attaching the tail , like tagger's picture, wire ina swivel then add the flap w/ split ring. If I had a tig welder , I'd cut open a swivel insert flap then reweld cut. Those older versions look like the wire on the swivel was wrapped around itself. Are those type swivels still available? I'll be back later . Gotta getta mixing!!
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Billy D.
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02-07-2010, 08:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Finally, finally primed mine yesterday. Gonna wait a coupla days before I sand and basecoat. Gonna be close but doable.
Those swivels, I wonder if they were unwound, the flap put on, then rewound? I have some of those around here somewhere from years ago if I find them, I'll give that a try.
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02-07-2010, 09:01 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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morning, hit the early mass today because the cat woke me up, then pancakes for the kido. Doing a road trip today down the cape to Biteme's house i think, stop at M&D's on the way down. Spent yesterday making templates and turning so I can return all the great plugs that were lent to me last week. Still lots to go. I have not even started to epoxy anything yet so I won't be bringing much if any to the fest, but that was my intention this year. looking forward to wandering around more this year so I have no sense of urgency. Now when I need to get my boats ready and tackle ready and am still building then i will feel the heat. My motto should be always put off today what you can do tomorrow.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-07-2010, 09:12 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Hi guys! I woke the other morning inspired and though I was not planning on building a Flaptail for the contest......something urged me to do so! It came out pretty great I think! I can't wait to get some paint on it this week.....not sure what colors yet? Also started painting my Nike and that looks great so far! Looking forward to PlugFest very much!
Oh! Flaptail is a Lido style copy!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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02-07-2010, 09:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
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f-tail food for thought:
flaps on needles straight out the butt...go for it...adds flash.
it's a known fact that flaps screwed to the bottom of a plug work much better then out the butt on surface plugs.
fishmaster/ did jerrys design straight out of the butt only because it was an easy production method for them.
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02-07-2010, 10:03 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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It's funny how easy it is turn this into work. I like the woodworking but I've been painting, wiring and epoxying this week. I dread the finishing part but I guess you can only put if off for so long...
Anyone got any good tips on wiring the fornt half of a jointed plug?
When I did the tail loops of the front section I kept scraping the paint trying to form the loop.
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02-07-2010, 10:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Rockfish9 has a nice method. Clean and neat no wraps..I still botch it... 
http://stripersonline.com/surftalk/s...iring+jointeds
found it , it wasn't here..
Last edited by Backbeach Jake; 02-07-2010 at 10:11 AM..
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02-07-2010, 10:22 AM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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After rereading and reviewing the pix, I realized why I was messing up my plugs. I was doing it completely bassackwards. |
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02-07-2010, 03:17 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake
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Whew, thanks for the link Fred....will be trying this technique tonight. Also, thanks to Rockfish for sharing the technique. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-07-2010, 03:11 PM
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#14
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
Anyone got any good tips on wiring the fornt half of a jointed plug?
When I did the tail loops of the front section I kept scraping the paint trying to form the loop.
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 ....I'm having the same issues...been to CVS three times this week for black, white, and yellow nail polish to fix scratches...  I keep telling the cashier its for my toe nails... |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-07-2010, 03:18 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Flaps look great Ted ... The needles ,, How are they in the water ,, Float ? Sink ? .. need micro balloons ?
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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02-14-2010, 08:17 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grapenuts
f-tail food for thought:
flaps on needles straight out the butt...go for it...adds flash.
it's a known fact that flaps screwed to the bottom of a plug work much better then out the butt on surface plugs.
fishmaster/ did jerrys design straight out of the butt only because it was an easy production method for them.
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Good info there ,,, wish I saw that first ... I got a couple of surface,, out the butt Jerry's way ,,,whoops ?? .. Did make some needles that way too .. That's funny because JS started, just screwing the barrel swivel to the bottom of the plug ..and later went to out the butt method .. |
Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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02-14-2010, 08:53 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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02-14-2010, 08:57 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Actually, now that Larry isn't talking to us anymore, whatayasay we go over there, beat him up, and steal his clear coat. Fred and Eddy, you guys can take him and I'll grab the clear coat.
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02-14-2010, 09:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Harmony, Rhode Island
Posts: 311
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Finally finished! I am so slow. This is my largest batch to date (30). They are all epoxy sealed red cedar. None have been tested but I'm optimistic. I've learned almost everything from this forum (& clumsy trial and error), so thanks to all.
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02-14-2010, 09:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
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I've been pretty lucky so far this year.
I ran out of sys 3 clearcoat so I ordered some more, when I opened it I was suprised to see how clear the hardener was. The last of my old hardener was very dark yellow, the new stuffs almost clear.
I've been heating my plugs before I epoxy them (The basements cold) and it seems like that lets the epoxy go on easier. I flipped the last set of darters and I was suprised how quickly the cool air made the clear coat stop running. I bet I only needed to flip 2 or 3 times in the first 30 minutes or so. |
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02-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Originally Posted by numbskull
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LOL. I am going to do my first batch today. Got to hit church first, Our Lady of Perpetual Motion, to pray to saint George the patron saint of top coats for a little help.
Diggin the hardener will eventually get yellow. Doesn't seem to effect the stuff though |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-14-2010, 10:12 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
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This might sound funny, but I've found the epoxy to be the easiest part of this entire process. This is due to the fact I'm setting them up on my rod spinner and proceeding like I'm finishing a rod. I'm only doing 5-6 plugs at a time, thus it will take me 8-10 sessions to get everything done as the system three takes a while to set up. I'll get some pics up later. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-14-2010, 08:54 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Alloway NJ
Posts: 117
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After reading Rockfish's thread I have a few thing to do today!  Perfect timing since I have a few jointed to wire when the sun gets up a little higher.
Thanks for the post Joe. Wish I would have seen it sooner.  |
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02-14-2010, 09:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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Good morning guys. I didn't get too much done this week. I got some darters epoxied and I did get my flaptail plug sealed & primed... Maybe do some painting on some topwater stuff today or tomorrow.
Eddie, just for kicks I tried that scale with the circle thing. I'm almost 2 hours in and its still not done.
here's some of the darters... bottom ones are 2.5 oz, top 2 are experiments an inch or so longer and an ounce or so heavier. |
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02-14-2010, 10:08 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
Eddie, just for kicks I tried that scale with the circle thing. I'm almost 2 hours in and its still not done. |
My first thought when i saw that technique is nice but way too long in application which equals way to many instances for me to screw up. I will just admire others attempts and not bother. |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-14-2010, 09:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
Good info there ,,, wish I saw that first ... I got a couple of surface,, out the butt Jerry's way ,,,whoops ?? .. Did make some needles that way too .. That's funny because JS started, just screwing the barrel swivel to the bottom of the plug ..and later went to out the butt method ..
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I do beleive JS only made so many an then handed everything over to fishmaster..were they made a few changes like making the body longer and out the butt swivel for their convience. |
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02-14-2010, 09:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Between the thighs
Posts: 559
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d-post..?
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02-07-2010, 10:25 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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yes joe showed me that and it is a very good method.
funny I like the turning the least and like the paint, assembly, but dread the epoxy
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-07-2010, 11:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
Posts: 2,260
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Good morning all. I am behind on everything as always i start off like gangbusters and then get distracted and then have to hustle again to get finished. As for those barrel swivel you guys were mentioning i have seen them somewhere just can't remember.One side has the loop and the other side has a extra long wire so you can wrap it yourself.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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02-07-2010, 11:13 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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