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11-05-2010, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
This thread sucks.
Obama isn't spending 200M USD a day for his trip. Why Salty, Bachman and FOX News are pushing this story is beyond me.
Also, did anyone catch the 160+ F16 fighters India is considering purchasing from the USA vs France, Sweden or Russia?
You guys are probably against Obama furthering US political and economic interests as well.
-spence
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So it's kinda like selling the Chicago Olympics?
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11-05-2010, 07:46 AM
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So it's kinda like selling the Chicago Olympics?
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ohhh...forgot about that one Buck....if his luck continues, this will be an expensive bust as well...
whatever the actual cost, and the most transparent administration in history will likely never provide that info...it is becoming way to expensive to shuffle this diva around.... 
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11-05-2010, 08:53 PM
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200 mil a day
3000 people with him
40 planes
34 war ships
They are renting the whole Tajmahal
and they are clearing the place of coconuts so they couldn't fall on Obama's head !
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11-07-2010, 09:16 PM
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The simplest way he could have created American jobs with out going to India, is to penalize American companies who ship their jobs over seas.
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11-08-2010, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
The simplest way he could have created American jobs with out going to India, is to penalize American companies who ship their jobs over seas.
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11-08-2010, 01:44 PM
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The simplest way he could have created American jobs with out going to India, is to penalize American companies who ship their jobs over seas.
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just curious, under what right? Tell me what gives the president authority to do this? That my friends is beyond socialism, thats dictatorship.
I see 5000 people with 5000 ipods a day, every one of them made in China. Why doesnt the American public boycott Apple? No, of course not, we sit around and bitch and wait for the governement to do something. As long as its profitable to send jobs overseas, companys will do so, shareholders want a profitable company and thats what CEOs get paid to provide.
The president could make changes to corp taxes, labor laws, trade laws, or other tax laws that benefit keeping manufacturing in the US. But the average workers would scream and cry and it will never take hold.
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11-05-2010, 07:58 AM
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I don't disagree I do however think he's spending a crapload of money that is unnecessary. %$%$%$%$ selling them %$%$%$%$licks planes. You and I won't get anything out of it.
Nor will you or I get anything out of him having a 1km tunnel custom assembled so he can go sightseeing.
How much do you think THAT cost?
But you got to agree it was pretty funny to read this thread then come onto that quote 
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11-05-2010, 08:27 AM
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Presidential trips, regardless of who's making them, cost an unnecessarily ridiculous amount.
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But you got to agree it was pretty funny to read this thread then come onto that quote 
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Fortunately for me, whenever scott posts all I see is:
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This message is hidden because scottw is on your ignore list.
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Has helped cull out a lot of nonsense.
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11-05-2010, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Presidential trips, regardless of who's making them, cost an unnecessarily ridiculous amount.
and when Obama/Michelle make them they are always of HISTORIC PROPORTIONS....read your own factcheck link re. Clinton trips...funny they talk about Bush and Clinton trips and then compare the Clinton trips and completely forget the Bush trips...weird...factcheck is a tool
Fortunately for me, whenever scott posts all I see is: my ass
Has helped cull out a lot of nonsense.
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11-05-2010, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Presidential trips, regardless of who's making them, cost an unnecessarily ridiculous amount.
Fortunately for me, whenever scott posts all I see is:
Has helped cull out a lot of nonsense.
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11-05-2010, 01:48 PM
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Maybe their is an opening for a camel driver somewhere over there, and somebody is stupid enough to hire him.
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11-05-2010, 02:55 PM
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11-05-2010, 02:58 PM
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SNOPES 
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11-05-2010, 05:48 PM
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This thread still sucks.
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11-05-2010, 05:54 PM
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AFP: No, Pentagon says, Obama will not be guarded by 34 ships
At least 5.2 million a day. Realistic number. I'm guessing more. I'm betting doubt they had to move 1 mile of tunnel there in a day? Or was this whole thing planned moons ago and we've really spent the $200 million planning this over the last year.
Conspiracy Theory.
I know Spence hey it's the best I could do to entertain you for the day.
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11-07-2010, 11:23 AM
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"His visit may appear to be popular among Indian people, but much of Mumbai's workforce can't wait for Barack Obama to leave. Taxi drivers, street vendors and fishermen have complained they can barely afford to eat after the city was turned into a fortress for the state visit.
All major roads have been blocked in India's financial capital - leaving taxi drivers without work for five days.
Sandeep Jaiswal, 22, said he had earned just £2 in five days - compared with £21 on a normal day.
'We have been left out of business. Because of him we are sitting idle for days now.
'First of all I was excited the American President was coming to my city but now I request him to leave us as soon as possible so that we could earn our bread and butter.'
Fishermen have been banned from the coastline in case of attack from the sea and shopkeepers have complained about having to shut during the busy Diwali period."
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11-07-2010, 11:27 AM
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just found this in the NY Times... interesting title
November 5, 2010, 7:41 am
Obama Recasts Asia Trip as Jobs Mission
By MICHAEL D. SHEAR
Talk about bad timing.
Just days after American voters sent President Obama a blunt and angry message about their desire to see him do more to fix the economy, Mr. Obama was preparing to head overseas on Friday morning on a 10-day foreign trip to Asia.
The president will go to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan on a mission that will involve issues of global security, international trade and economics, improving cultural ties, preventing terrorism and some personal diplomacy. He will dine with foreign leaders, give a speech about Muslim outreach and attend summits on global finance.
But in the days since the midterm elections, Mr. Obama and his senior aides have found a much more simple way to describe the purpose of the trip.
It’s about American jobs, they say.
thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/.../obama-recasts-asia-trip-as-jobs-mission/
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11-05-2010, 05:57 PM
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What is scary is how hard rush, hannity and beck pushed it. Can't believe they weren't lying.
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11-05-2010, 05:57 PM
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11-05-2010, 06:01 PM
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"The White House bluntly dismissed the cost estimate, and said that the price tag for security was similar to trips for previous presidents, without offering a specific figure."
CNN did, FOI showed previous president trips was costing somewhere around $5.2million per day for a similar trip. So probably close to double that today...
That's 100 million dollars for this trip NO BULLSH IT
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11-05-2010, 07:35 PM
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So what's the point? That a president shouldn't make state visits where it's in our interest?
You're doing a lot of whining.
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11-06-2010, 01:40 AM
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I'd say 7 mil/per day.... and that's a liberal estimate
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11-06-2010, 04:08 AM
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So $70 million dollars for another vacation....
Spence I can't believe you even ask what the point is. Dood your delusional if you think it's ok that this kind of money is being spent to do these trips.
Putting my severe distaste for this jackass since day one aside.....It's wrong. For anyone.
It's DISGUSTING to think of the tax money I've paid in the past few years and it's being put to GREAT use.
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I'd say 7 mil/per day.... and that's a liberal estimate
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11-06-2010, 06:48 AM
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So $70 million dollars for another vacation....
Spence I can't believe you even ask what the point is. Dood your delusional if you think it's ok that this kind of money is being spent to do these trips.
Putting my severe distaste for this jackass since day one aside.....It's wrong. For anyone.
It's DISGUSTING to think of the tax money I've paid in the past few years and it's being put to GREAT use.
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This isn't a vacation, perhaps that why you're so confused?
-spence
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11-06-2010, 06:58 AM
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Spence is correct..he is bringing along 36 pairs of teleprompters...although, those might be for bedtime stories for the kids or pillow talk with Michelle...never know 
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11-06-2010, 07:25 AM
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I was just reading this:
WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama leaves the wreckage of his Democratic Party's election hammering for the refuge of foreign policy on Friday, setting off on a nine-day odyssey to Asia.
Obama will visit India, his boyhood home of Indonesia, South Korea for the G20 summit and then Japan for APEC meetings, seeking to broaden US geopolitical influence and win new markets for American products in the dynamic region.
With an eye on US voters back home, who used mid-term elections to send a cry of distress over the sluggish recovery, Obama will stress the commercial opportunities offered by Asia, as he seeks to boost exports to create jobs.
"The primary purpose (of the India trip) is to take a bunch of US companies and open up markets so that we can sell in Asia and some of the fastest-growing markets in the world, and we can create jobs here in the United States of America," Obama told reporters on Thursday.
"My hope is that we've got some specific announcements that show the connection between what we're doing overseas and what happens here at home when it comes to job growth and economic growth."
Obama, who has dubbed himself America's "First Pacific president" has made no secret that he sees Asia, with its fast-emerging economies and rising strategic clout, as the most vital global region to America's future.
sooooo, US companies aren't already doing business in Asia???
they can't expand or increase business in Asia without Obama and a giant entourage ???
hey Obaba, they don't need you in the way...GET THE %^CK OUT OF THE WAY!!!
YOU ARE INCOMPETENT!!!
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11-06-2010, 07:32 AM
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We should be cozying up with India more than most anyone. They are a massive, vibrant democracy, with growing capital, educational, and intellectual possibilities. They share a border with the more massive, vibrant totalitarianist / communists, with growing capital, educational, and intellectual possibilities. They also need help in many areas and we could stand to benefit from help in many areas.
As our current allies in Europe fade somewhat in significance and as the world balance moves to the east, we would be well versed in building solid relationships with emerging powers and extending / reestablishing relations with current partner nations, Japan, SK, Aus, Indonesia, Indo China.
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11-06-2010, 04:10 AM
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And how exactly is this in our interest? Because of selling them these airplanes? Sorry Charlie they ain't payin #^^^^&. They will go down owing us the money just like any other times something gets sold. How much do they already owe us?

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11-06-2010, 05:23 AM
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I think if we spend 7 mil. a day for the rest of his term to keep him busy we will come out ahead in the end.
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11-06-2010, 06:04 AM
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someone with a little time should make a list of "Obama's Greatest Expenses"..
this was the guy that requested more earmarks than any other Senator
THE MOST expensive campaign in history and the LAVISH spending on food and booze is well documented
THE MOST expensive innauguration in history
THE MOST EXPENSIVE agenda in history
THE MOST expensive date night in history
THE MOST expensive trips abroad and frequent vacations in history
PERPETUAL lavish parties at the Whitehouse
UNNECESSARY jaunts on Air Force One..Chicago Olympics
FLIES his freakin' dog on it's own plane?????
THIS trip is way over the top and not justified in any way...in fact very questionable for a lot of reasons
There are more examples...
all the while talking about how Americans need to tighter their belts during tough economic times
hey PAUL...that is HYPOCRICY !
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