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11-13-2009, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
One might ask, how much revenue for MA business has Kraft helped bring to the state?
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He didn't do it with the economic state of MA in mind. He did it to make money. The stadium, the new Patriots Place, even our beloved Pats are nothing but a business and are run as such.
My guess is that this footbridge will reduce Kraft's costs by decreasing the number of State Trooper details required in that area, help reduce the amount of time it takes for people to get out of the stadium and in turn, reduce Kraft's per/event expenses.
If there's a chance to pawn those costs onto the state by claiming the safety of fans, of course he would try to.
If the Patriots started not being profitable and had a weak long-term financial outlook, I guarantee the team would be on the selling block. In the end, this is a business.
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11-13-2009, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
He didn't do it with the economic state of MA in mind. He did it to make money. The stadium, the new Patriots Place, even our beloved Pats are nothing but a business and are run as such.
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They why do States give tax credits to encourage business?
-spence
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11-13-2009, 08:44 PM
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They why do States give tax credits to encourage business?
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As incentives for the business to come to their state and spur economic growth.
This whole thread, and your above examples concern states giving the business money. Should we be thanking Kraft for seeing a business opportunity, buying the Patriots, shaking things up and then utilizing the benefits of multiple championships to expand his business - just because it brings tax money and people from out-of-state here to spend money?
Kraft and the Patriots aren't going any where. This isn't like the 90s when he threatened to move the team to Connecticut because the state wouldn't give him enough money and the permitting required. He has anchored himself and the Pats in Foxboro now. Rodman is no longer the dominant empire on RT1, Kraft's Patriots Brand is.
I sticking with the idea that this is solely a business choice by Kraft to reduce his out of pocket costs on a per/game basis and displace those costs onto the state. This whole situation is Strictly Business.
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11-13-2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
As incentives for the business to come to their state and spur economic growth.
I sticking with the idea that this is solely a business choice by Kraft to reduce his out of pocket costs on a per/game basis and displace those costs onto the state.
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What's really the difference?
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11-13-2009, 09:18 PM
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What's really the difference?
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Kraft is already here, has cemented his brand here and a $9million bridge isn't going to cause him to up and move.
I'm sick and tired of the lazy assclowns that live in my apartment complex getting free government money to support their drinking habit and 5 kids. We don't need successful billionaires getting hand-outs as well - especially after the state just raised the sales tax to 6.25% because the state apparently doesn't have enough tax dollars coming in.
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11-13-2009, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I'm sick and tired of the lazy assclowns that live in my apartment complex getting free government money to support their drinking habit and 5 kids. We don't need successful billionaires getting hand-outs as well - especially after the state just raised the sales tax to 6.25% because the state apparently doesn't have enough tax dollars coming in.
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Hmmmm...
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11-13-2009, 10:50 PM
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Hmmmm...
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Yes, one place where I'm far from the left is on these government handouts - be it to the welfare queens next door, or billionaires. And for the record, the one neighbor with the drinking habit is outside the complex stumbling around all the time while her kids run amok, almost getting run over.
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11-13-2009, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Kraft is already here, has cemented his brand here and a $9million bridge isn't going to cause him to up and move.
I'm sick and tired of the lazy assclowns that live in my apartment complex getting free government money to support their drinking habit and 5 kids. We don't need successful billionaires getting hand-outs as well - especially after the state just raised the sales tax to 6.25% because the state apparently doesn't have enough tax dollars coming in.
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as a successful businessman...maybe you should "move on up" outta da hood?
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11-13-2009, 11:48 PM
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as a successful businessman...maybe you should "move on up" outta da hood?
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That's the problem with apartment complexes that have "tiered pricing" - something I was unaware of when I moved in. My lease is up next month and I'm out - the retail rate for my apartment is $1250, and I found out some people are paying as little as $700 for the same 2 bed, 2 bath place.
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