ACORN Again...

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Originally Posted by buckman

Hit job or not. The truth should be told about this organization.

I've seen plenty of ACORN stories in the mainstream press, when there's been a legitimate accusation to report about.

A good portion of what you hear about ACORN from the Right isn't even true, or has been mis-characterized. That's not to say the organization is without fault, but the allegations of illegal voter registration etc... have been widely misreported by the Right Wing media.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I've seen plenty of ACORN stories in the mainstream press, when there's been a legitimate accusation to report about.

A good portion of what you hear about ACORN from the Right isn't even true, or has been mis-characterized. That's not to say the organization is without fault, but the allegations of illegal voter registration etc... have been widely misreported by the Right Wing media.

-spence

I think there are indictments in like 28 states. Oh ya, right wing "mis-characterizations".
Spence, it's ironic that you defend a radical, federally assisted, corrupt, left wing organization by blaming the radical right

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Originally Posted by buckman

I think there are indictments in like 28 states. Oh ya, right wing "mis-characterizations".
Spence, it's ironic that you defend a radical, federally assisted, corrupt, left wing organization by blaming the radical right

I guess it would be important to understand what the indictments were actually for. The accusations are not that ACORN was engaged in voter fraud, but rather illegally registering voters.

Why?

Because the people they hired figured out they could make more money for themselves as they were paid on the number of registrations they obtained!

It certainly should be investigated and prosecuted as appropriate, but it's a long way from the 2008 campaign rhetoric that ACORN was spearheading a massive election scandal.

As for Federal funding, I think they have only been able to get 3 or 4 millions dollars a year nationally. That's not a lot of money and they have done value added work.

I'm no ACORN advocate, but how the Right has used them as a straw man is pretty silly and manipulative. Watching FOX News you'd think this was a bigger issue than terrorism.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The accusations are not that ACORN was engaged in voter fraud, but rather illegally registering voters.
-spence

What????

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Originally Posted by buckman

What????

Pretty simple, they were creating fake registrations that would never be converted into votes.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Pretty simple, they were creating fake registrations that would never be converted into votes.

-spence

Oh, since you put it that way... You my friend have an answer or excuse for everything.

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Originally Posted by buckman

Oh, since you put it that way... You my friend have an answer or excuse for everything.

I'm not making any excuses, I find the behavior to be reprehensible.

If you're going to be making accusations, at least understand what you're accusing someone of.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Pretty simple, they were creating fake registrations that would never be converted into votes.

-spence

How do you know this? What were they doing it for then, Practice! Your too funny

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Originally Posted by buckman

How do you know this? What were they doing it for then, Practice! Your too funny

The individuals hired by ACORN were doing it for personal gain.

How do I know? I have a freaking crystal ball...Jesus...

-spence