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09-11-2009, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Illegals can't vote.
If "they will be covered" why does both the House bill and draft Senate bills contain explicit legislation that they are not?
-spence
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Haven't you heard of Acorn 
Draft bills don't mean anything. There like Obama speaches. |
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09-11-2009, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Illegals can't vote.
If "they will be covered" why does both the House bill and draft Senate bills contain explicit legislation that they are not?
-spence
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Illegals most certainly can vote. I guess you haven't read about the ACORN investigations and arrests recently? Eleven ACORN staffers arrested for illegally registering voters.
Please also provide the explicit legislation that says that illegals not be covered. Thanks. |
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
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09-11-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Then why shoot down GOP amendments that prohibit Illegals from free health care? It will be in the bill Spence. They will be covered. Obama's not going to miss this opportunity to add voters to his herd.
Believe it or not. Your choice, fairy land or reality.
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I'd be curious what the actual GOP amendment's wording was. Let's not forget how ridiculous the law drafting process can be.
**This is not an attack**
For instance, it is not legal to carry a firearm on federal park lands. Why? Because the GOP had the amendment inserted into the... Fair Debt Collection Practices Act???? How is that even applicable? (Even though I'm glad they did and agree with the policy 100%)
But this happens every day. No party is innocent. Thus, I wonder what the actual wording was. |
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09-11-2009, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
I'd be curious what the actual GOP amendment's wording was. Let's not forget how ridiculous the law drafting process can be.
**This is not an attack**
For instance, it is not legal to carry a firearm on federal park lands. Why? Because the GOP had the amendment inserted into the... Fair Debt Collection Practices Act???? How is that even applicable? (Even though I'm glad they did and agree with the policy 100%)
But this happens every day. No party is innocent. Thus, I wonder what the actual wording was.
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I can't believe I once thought you were one of the good guys. |
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09-11-2009, 02:24 PM
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spence and Johnny you are 100% correct.
there is no explicit language in the bill saying illegal immigrants will be covered.
but there is no language in welfare bills that illegals will be covered. No language in city/town laws that they can attend public schools. no explicit language in WIC or other taxpayed funded programs that they will be covered, but you know what? In many, many cases....they are! So why would any sensible person assume that they wont be covered by this?
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09-11-2009, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
spence and Johnny you are 100% correct.
there is no explicit language in the bill saying illegal immigrants will be covered.
but there is no language in welfare bills that illegals will be covered. No language in city/town laws that they can attend public schools. no explicit language in WIC or other taxpayed funded programs that they will be covered, but you know what? In many, many cases....they are! So why would any sensible person assume that they wont be covered by this?
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Are you confusing Federal and State laws?
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09-11-2009, 05:58 PM
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09-12-2009, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
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Not sure what the problem is. Obama has clearly stated he doesn't want to see this in the legislation...
But the House has a reason to put this in. If the law did require some illegals to get coverage why shouldn't they be able to buy into the gateway? They still wouldn't be receiving any Federal subsidies.
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09-12-2009, 09:28 AM
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Thank God for Joe Wilson or we wouldn't even be talikng about it. He may have saved your kids billions.
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