Marijuana Legalization Bills Introduced In Massachusetts

[Slipknot]

You think Americans have become fat and lazy now? just wait and see what happens if pot is legalized I don't think it's a good idea, people need to get motivated and get working hard, not get stoned and lethargic. Medical use is one thing, but recreational use is completely different, it's a drug like alcohol is a drug.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

You think Americans have become fat and lazy now? just wait and see what happens if pot is legalized I don't think it's a good idea, people need to get motivated and get working hard, not get stoned and lethargic. Medical use is one thing, but recreational use is completely different, it's a drug like alcohol is a drug.

Yes, because if Marijuana is legalized, we'll turn into a country of fat, lazy, unmotivated people - with the benefit of munchie sales going through the roof.

Similar to how everyone turned into an alcoholic that beats their wife, in the 1930's when Prohibition was overturned.

Aren't ignorant stereotypes and misconceptions fun?

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Yes, because if Marijuana is legalized, we'll turn into a country of fat, lazy, unmotivated people - with the benefit of munchie sales going through the roof.

Similar to how everyone turned into an alcoholic that beats their wife, in the 1930's when Prohibition was overturned.

Aren't ignorant stereotypes and misconceptions fun?

yep like all deadheads dropped acid and have no brain cells left.
I forgot to add paranoia.
Plenty of drunks to go around,(I don't know about the wife beating, but if you say so) I think there are studies where they add up all the costs from sicktime,loss of production etc. due to drinking or being hungover and it costs employers plenty, which in turn costs consumers.

I have stock in Doritos

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

I think there are studies where they add up all the costs from sicktime,loss of production etc. due to drinking or being hungover and it costs employers plenty, which in turn costs consumers.

I have stock in Doritos

There are studies. The problem is that they are financed by the same department of the government that funds drug prevention.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

You think Americans have become fat and lazy now? just wait and see what happens if pot is legalized I don't think it's a good idea, people need to get motivated and get working hard, not get stoned and lethargic. Medical use is one thing, but recreational use is completely different, it's a drug like alcohol is a drug.

i've never seen a fat lazy Rasta.

[cheferson]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

You think Americans have become fat and lazy now? just wait and see what happens if pot is legalized I don't think it's a good idea, people need to get motivated and get working hard, not get stoned and lethargic. Medical use is one thing, but recreational use is completely different, it's a drug like alcohol is a drug.

I know lots of people that smoke grass everyday and work 50-80+ hours a week. I wouldnt call them lazy. Look at michael phelps , a pot smoker, and at the top of his sport. Heres some more famously lazy pot smokers
Barack Obama, president-elect. Bill Clinton, 42nd president of the U.S. John Kerry, U.S. Senator and 2004 Democratic nominee for president. John Edwards, multi-millionaire, former U.S. Senator, and 2004 Democratic nominee for vice president. Sarah Palin, governor of Alaska, 2008 Republican nominee for vice president. British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith, Transport Secretary Ruth Kelly, and and Chancellor Alistair Darling. Josh Howard, NBA all-star. New York Governor David Paterson. Former Vice President, Nobel Peace Prize winner, and Oscar winner Al Gore. Former Sen. Bill Bradley, who smoked while playing professional basketball. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and former New York Governor George Pataki. Billionaire and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

What about peter b. lewis founder of progressive auto insurance and potsmoker???

[Rob Rockcrawler]

Damn, i shouldnt have turned up that job at frito-lay.

[buckman]

I know a lot of pot smokers. Not a one needs it as a medicine.

[JohnnyD]

Raven, your picture makes me feel like I'm tripping on Acid, not high on pot.

[Raven]

it's the poppies ....

[Swimmer]

I just find it interesting that in liberal Massachusetts has banned smoking of cigarettes everywhere in public, except maybe your car, because smoking them no doubt causes cancer, but 65 % of the same people who wanted smoking cigarettes in public to be illegal also voted for decriminalizing marijuana. Liberal Massachusetts where the death penalty is always soundly defeated, but its selfish residents don't give a damn about all the people dying in the drug wars in Mexico making sure they have all the dope they need. Buy a lid, kill a kid, in ole Mexico . You can't have it both ways. So I guess to even things out people should be given a citation for smoking a cigarette as well, when caught, or maybe neither of the smokers should be punished. I am so confused.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Swimmer

I just find it interesting that in liberal Massachusetts has banned smoking of cigarettes everywhere in public, except maybe your car, because smoking them no doubt causes cancer, but 65 % of the same people who wanted smoking cigarettes in public to be illegal also voted for decriminalizing marijuana. Liberal Massachusetts where the death penalty is always soundly defeated, but its selfish residents don't give a damn about all the people dying in the drug wars in Mexico making sure they have all the dope they need. Buy a lid, kill a kid, in ole Mexico . You can't have it both ways. So I guess to even things out people should be given a citation for smoking a cigarette as well, when caught, or maybe neither smokers should be punished. I am so confused.

Most weed in MA is grown locally or in Canada.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by likwid

Most weed in MA is grown locally or in Canada.

O.K. so do you want to chat about the tarriffs that the Hell's Angels and other gorwers have to pay the various indian tribes that live along the Canadian to drive/walk across thier land to bring it into this country. Hells Angels are just a mens social group right.

[JohnnyD]

From what I hear, That B.C. bud is tops.

[likwid]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

From what I hear, That B.C. bud is tops.

AK is better. Or so they say.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by likwid

AK is better. Or so they say.

Today I didn't even have to use my AK
I got to say it was a good day.

[Raven]

Clinics open this summer in Rhode Island

[ecduzitgood]

The 10 Most Successful Potheads on the Planet… Cool Enough to Admit It : COED Magazine

George Washington grew pot on his farm????

[leo33]

so legalizing weed will increase violence in Mexico? i have a feeling it would decrease do to the fact the black market for weed would dry up.

[justplugit]

Legalize so the government gets the tax? pffft.

To do what with , pay down debt or find more $$$$$$ to waste ???????

If you believe the former i got a bridge to sell ya.

Just what we need,another blight on America, the world leader.

[Raven]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Legalize so the government gets the tax? pffft.

To do what with , pay down debt or find more $$$$$$ to waste ???????

If you believe the former i got a bridge to sell ya.

.

i don't need a bridge right now Dave
but i'll take a big rocky cove full of Bass
if ya have one layin around
~
It's completely Obvious and transparent to me
that the current tobacco tax is just a prelude
to pot being taxed in the near future,,,,

the Government is always advocating accountability
yet with the DRUG war there is absolutely NONE to speak of

it's almost as if it's a black ops deal because
the price tag is open ended regardless
of the results over the last 65 years.....

and when i hear them say the "longest war"
on the news it makes me think about how
much money has been squandered so far.
~
but hey, we are now in the longest war....

the war against terrorism
and it will never end

that being said....

we need to end non productive wars.

[JohnnyD]

chef,

You left out half the players in the NFL. And a stat I heard during the debates on MA's decriminalization that up to 30% of MIT graduates smoked pot.

[Raven]

a professor from Harvard was also saying
to legalize all drugs on CNN then increase
the treatment centers.

heroine is easier to get than Beer and costs even less
than a six pack....for kids in high school

Kids smoking weed may not be a good thing (i agree)
(if adults over 21 want to....... that's their decision)
but those same kids are not going to die
from it....... due to an overdose.

we have spent a half trillion dollars on prohibition
the Havard professor said ...yet the drugs infiltration
in this country is going up faster than the deficit.

it's not working.

[Raven]

Finally the right approach is underway.... @ the Afghanistan poppy stand ..... bout friggan time... but hey, 300 million revenue is a drop in the bucket.... if they have financier's or backers...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Only 10 minutes inside the tiny village of Zangabad, 20 miles southwest of Kandahar, a platoon of American soldiers stepped into a poppy field in full bloom on Monday. Taliban fighters opened fire from three sides.
“From the north!” one of the soldiers yelled, spinning and firing.
“West!” another screamed, turning and firing, too.
An hour passed and a thousand bullets whipped through the air. Ammunition was running low. The Taliban were circling.

Then the gunships arrived, swooping in, their
bullet casings showering the ground beneath them, their rockets streaking and destroying. Behind a barrage of artillery, the soldiers shot their way out of Zangabad and moved into the cover of the vineyards.
“When are you going drop the bomb?” Capt. Chris Brawley said into his radio over the clatter of machine-gun fire. “I’m in a grape field.”
The bomb came, and after a time the shooting stopped.

[RIJIMMY]

i watched too awesome shows on the history channel this weekend on the history of drugs in the US and how they became illegal. Very, very interesting. Race has played a huge part in the laws. Bottom line is that NO ONE ever saw the laws creating a huge, violent, black market. The crime we have in the country is worse than the impacts of drugs being legal. There are no violent drug cartels selling beer in the US.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Bottom line is that NO ONE ever saw the laws creating a huge, violent, black market. The crime we have in the country is worse than the impacts of drugs being legal. There are no violent drug cartels selling beer in the US.

Which is extremely interesting to me considering the immediate surge of violence and bootlegging that emerged as a result of Prohibition.

I've been meaning to try and catch one of these shows. I know on of the channels has a show "Drugs Inc." but all the ones I've caught have been about Mexican or Colombian cartels.

[Raven]

you brought up a very good point on your
weapon of choice to drive home awake .....from the ditch

it's a matter of what "your body" says feels right
not your Doctors recommendation and that is because
only you can "feel" how something affects you and
no one else can.

I try to tell people to take that approach to deciding what makes
them feel good .... not what some advertiser says.

On one of those pot usa shows it was saying how these pharmaceutical
companies go to the MEDICAL colleges to train emerging Doctors
on how to prescribe the medications and also pay them sums of cash
up to $100,000,00. dollars to give speeches about their products.

sounds like a shill operation to me...

when i go to the Doctors and try to downplay all the medication
they wanna give me.... they get all perturbed about it and talk about
how safe everything is... blah, blah and this has been around for so many years
is their argument , when in reality, it should be screw the general population
"how does it work for you individually" should be
the question asked.

One person can get absolutely no benefit from something whereas
another person may consider it to be the only thing that works.

Saw an interview with some kids who's dad was on medical marijuana
and they said they can't believe it... HE'S BACK
they said ,where as before he was so doped up on pain killers to them
he was unreachable,not there ......... a shadow of his former self

the father who looked very bad physically (posture) simply said...
after a minute or 10 minutes the pain is not completely gone
but it just doesn't bother me as much anymore
and i can tolerate it.
i no longer care.

[fishbones]

Pot is illegal in this country because of the stereotype of the lazy white kids with nasty dreadlocks, hemp bracelets and tie dye clothes that arrive in town for the Phish concerts and stink the place up with their b.o.

[The Dad Fisherman]

This is an interesting read on it......

Why is Marijuana Illegal? Drug WarRant

[striperman36]

It's Nixon's fault