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07-31-2008, 04:10 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Jason Bay--welcome to the American Lague and real major league pitching.
Rank this trade in about a month, when Manny's hitting like .340 against NL pitchers and piling up numbers for next year's deal.
He's got the perfect excuse now--unhappy in Boston, but look at what I did when I was playing where I was appreciated 
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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07-31-2008, 04:15 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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good riddance you pos! 
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07-31-2008, 04:22 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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thank god
Now go play Dodger BALL.... phew!
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07-31-2008, 04:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
Rank this trade in about a month, when Manny's hitting like .340 against NL pitchers and piling up numbers for next year's deal.
He's got the perfect excuse now--unhappy in Boston, but look at what I did when I was playing where I was appreciated 
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Manny will do great for the Dodgers, but what would he have done if he stayed in Boston? Would he have packed it in in mid August like he did 2 years ago? You can't judge this trade based on what Manny does in a Dodger uniform.
As for Bay, he may be another Renteria. In Pittsburgh, he didn't have as much protection in the lineup as he'll have in Boston. Nady and McClouth are good players, but that's all he had this year in Pittsburgh protecting him. He might do much better with Ortiz, Pedroia, Lowell, Drew and Youkilis around him in the lineup. Time will tell.
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07-31-2008, 05:15 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Dodgers did well in the deal... I think Boston was forced to give up too much (Hansen and Moss) considering the 7 million they're ponying up for Manny's remaining contract.
$20 million a year.... figure a 30 week season, that's like $666,000 a WEEK, before Uncle Sam and the agent's cut. He's a dope, and here's to management, ownership, and the players (who I heard were almost unanomous in their vote) for standing up to players who put themselves before the team and society in general.
$666,000 a week...get real. They should all be capped at one million a year.
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07-31-2008, 09:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Weymouth, Ma.
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Adios muchachos. I don't think it made them better talent-wise, but he didn't want to play for the Sox anymore and you could tell the rest of the team were sick of talking for him. Jason Bay is a pretty good hitter. Maybe not as good, but his production numbers are right there, and he never had a guy like Papi protecting him in the line up.
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07-31-2008, 10:44 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
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The part that scares me is Manny is a Free Agent at the end of the year and the Yankees will be waiting with a big fat check
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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08-01-2008, 05:16 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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I could only hope the Yankees sign him! His ego will not fit in that clubhouse with all the other egos!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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08-01-2008, 07:12 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicPatrick
The part that scares me is Manny is a Free Agent at the end of the year and the Yankees will be waiting with a big fat check
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At least he'll get rid of that "Predator Head" look...
The Yank-mees are welcome to him......Thats just what they need, ANOTHER guy that doesn't understand the "Team" concept of the game.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-01-2008, 08:21 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Cambridge, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicPatrick
The part that scares me is Manny is a Free Agent at the end of the year and the Yankees will be waiting with a big fat check
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...possibility abounds. He is from the heights after alll...
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08-01-2008, 08:58 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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The only way he winds up with the Yankees is if Hank Steinbrenner is more than just the clownish front man, and actually calls the shots there. Manny playing for a manager like Giradi--it would be hillarious to watch.
He's a better bet to wind up on the Mets if he plays in NY. Minaya, their GM, would love to add another Dominican to the roster.
He can't be any worse in left field there than Dave Kingman and George Foster were.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-01-2008, 11:32 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike_King
Mike..why do think Minaya didn't do anything this week?Tight race in the NL East..With the money they've spent on Beltran,Reyes and Santana etc what's some more $$$?
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Just a guess--he didn't want to give up anyone to get Manny, he thinks they can win the East with what they have, and he will make a run at him as a free agent.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-01-2008, 12:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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Manny had OK'd the trade option, but he was thinking that the D-Rays were the team in the trade. Oh well, I guess you better be careful what you wish for.
I can only hope he'll get back to a "team' mentality, but a leopard can't change his spots.
As for the Garciaparra comments, Manny had OK'd the Sox trade but may have been bluffing, thinking that they couldn't work out a trade.
I guess he's eating crow now.
As I've heard and stated numerous times in my lifetime: "No one is indespensible!"
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08-01-2008, 07:29 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike_King
Mike..why do think Minaya didn't do anything this week?Tight race in the NL East..With the money they've spent on Beltran,Reyes and Santana etc what's some more $$$?
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I just heard that the Mets did express an interest, but the price would have been Beltran.
It'd be interesting to see what Beltran could have done at Fenway instead of the wind tunnel in Flushing.
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