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Man Toby, in all the years we known each other, I always imagined this would be your calling, and yet never knew u had a podcast, mainly as too busy since stepping away. Muy bueno
Amazigly my paths never crossed with frank, but wish they had. Pretty cool listen and I could feel the pain in his and his wife's souls not being able to still be after it.
And if in fact next is with the "beast of the beach", his life story to the surf casting world is well over due. unknowingly to most, he is humbly responsibly for pioneering much of what we use and know about catching striped bass. A life time achievement and an interview more anticipated than Avatar
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