More red state Idiocy

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re more do concerned about the state as a whole. sure. so you put zero thought into which town in CT you’d live in.
Sorry don't understand that gibberish - isn't that the word you use when you're showing your low class
and trying to insult people?
in any event, america clearly doesn’t share that logic. that’s why they’re moving in huge numbers to states that, as a whole aren’t better than CT, but have specific places that are as nice as CT at a lower cost. I live in a great town. I do care about the state as a whole. It shows my compassion and empathy for others less fortunate as myself. It also demonstrates the Repub. (lack of empathy).

My brother lives in Franklin TN. He doesn’t care that Memphis is a mess. Just because it’s in the same state?

Americans want what the best of CT has to offer, but they don’t want to horribly overpay for it. Turns out they don’t have to.

Using Frankling TN as an arguement is using out an outlier- which you said earlier (when you went off the handle - keep the guns away from angry Jim!) should be disgarded. We have stats for 350M. people which show D run states are richer and healthier and R run states are poorer and less healthy. Pretty compelling evidence.

And your whole arguement was proven wrong when I posted stats showing migration to Fl. hasn't changed over the last 50 years or so. Approximately 850 per day. No difference between when Rs where gov or when Ds were governing. How many times have you posted that argument yet it was proven 100% wrong?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Using Frankling TN as an arguement is using out an outlier- which you said earlier (when you went off the handle - keep the guns away from angry Jim!) should be disgarded. We have stats for 350M. people which show D run states are richer and healthier and R run states are poorer and less healthy. Pretty compelling evidence.

And your whole arguement was proven wrong when I posted stats showing migration to Fl. hasn't changed over the last 50 years or so. Approximately 850 per day. No difference between when Rs where gov or when Ds were governing. How many times have you posted that argument yet it was proven 100% wrong?

So I've asked you 10 times now, why there aren't any similar outliers in CT (towns with high quality of life and very low taxes), and not once have you come close to answering. Those outliers are the value proposition offered by those states.

The fact that FL has always had migration, doesn't even come close to refuting my point. Just because my grandparents retired there doesn't mean I'm going to retire there. There has to be something about the state that makes me want to move there.

When FL had democrat governors, they didn't implement a big state income tax (like they did in CT). It was still a conservative state, it's never been considered a blue state.

When people decide to move to one state or another, I don't think they put a lot of emphasis on how bad the cities are, unless that city is very close to where they want to live. Memphis, TN is a sh*thole. That hasn't stopped Franklin from becoming a BOOMING suburb. Same with FL, NC, NH. If a state has beautiful and low cost suburbs, most people won't be scared away if that state also has gross cities an hour away. I doubt there's a state in the country that doesn't have some awful cities within. CT has Bridgeport, Hartford, New Haven, Waterbury. You seen those places lately? I have.

You're not holding any cards in this game. None. As blue states lose population, not only do they lose tax revenue (which is hurting CT), they also lose congressional seats, and thus electoral votes.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So I've asked you 10 times now, why there aren't any similar outliers (towns with high quality of life and very low taxes), and not once have you come close to answering. Those outliers are the value proposition offered by those states. No they're not. R governor press release "Look we admit our state sucks as a whole but we have outliers that are great. We keep statewide taxes low so if you have a good income you can move to an outlier town and send your kids to good private schools and not have to worry about those "others" who can't lift themselves up by their bootstraps"

The fact that FL has always had migration, doesn't even come close to refuting my point. Just because my grandparents retired there doesn't mean I'm going to retire there. There has to be something about the state that makes me want to move there. So show us the stats that say 850 a day are moving there bc of Rs policies? You have never done that and can't, yet have touted that fact repeatedly until I destroyed that arguement.

When FL had democrat governors, they didn't implement a big state income tax (like they did in CT). It was still a conservative state, it's never been considered a blue state.

When people decide to move to one state or another, I don't think they put a lot of emphasis on how bad the cities are, unless that city is very close to where they want to live. Memphis, TN is a sh*thole. That hasn't stopped Franklin from becoming a BOOMING suburb. Outlier - look at your first year actuarial book as you stated earlier bc it seems like you don't know what that word means Same with FL, NC, NH. If a state has beautiful and lo cost suburbs, most people won't be scared away if that state also has gross cities an hour away. CT has Bridgeport, Hartford, New Haven. You seen those places lately?

Cities are where poor people live and if someone increases their income, they move out. They live their bc of better access to transportation, social servicers, etc. - the things that poor people need. You haven't figured that out yet?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Cities are where poor people live and if someone increases their income, they move out. They live their bc of better access to transportation, social servicers, etc. - the things that poor people need. You haven't figured that out yet?

so you deny that those outliers are the value proposition offered by those states. But that’s precisely where people are moving in big numbers. so how can not be their value proposition?

Youre denying facts that you dont like.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so you deny that those outliers are the value proposition offered by those states. But that’s precisely where people are moving in big numbers. so how can not be their value proposition?

Youre denying facts that you dont like.

I never denied the fact that 850 people a day are moving to Florida. I just showed you that 850 people a day have been moving to Florida for years regardless of what party was in control. You haven't been able to show that they are moving to Florida bc of Desantis' policies but have been claiming that. I have never claimed that the 160 cities are better than the 225? cities in Fl or Tenn, etc. Just that overall Conn. is richer, healthier, etc than those states.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I never denied the fact that 850 people a day are moving to Florida. I just showed you that 850 people a day have been moving to Florida for years regardless of what party was in control. You haven't been able to show that they are moving to Florida bc of Desantis' policies but have been claiming that.

You denied that having lost cost suburbs with a high quality of life, is a value proposition of red states. But that's where the people are moving to in big numbers, which is proof that people do think that's the value proposition.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You denied that having lost cost suburbs with a high quality of life, is a value proposition of red states. But that's where the people are moving to in big numbers, which is proof that people do think that's the value proposition.

So the "value proposition" is as follows:

Move to the outliers towns where there is a good quality of life if you have enough money but if you don't have enough money, you are out of luck and we really don't care about you enough to raise our taxes to try improving your life.