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01-21-2023, 11:07 AM
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Hey all you computer geniuses, the physical laptop could be hunters, but the chain of custody there is no way that you can prove that the original hard drive hadn’t been replaced because they’re replaceable. Or re written
So yes the actual laptop the body screen key board could be hunters tracked by serial number and Apple ID.
But it all comes down to the hard drive and a court would be hard to accept anything on it. as probable cause to start an investigation or accept as evidence
A House committee are not bound by the rules of evidence and the GOPQ have no regard for evidence anyway or power to prosecute. Show it will be all in the window and rumors.
The investigation into Hunter Biden began in 2018, Unrelated to his laptop But for taxes
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01-21-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Hey all you computer geniuses, the physical laptop could be hunters, but the chain of custody there is no way that you can prove that the original hard drive hadn’t been replaced because they’re replaceable. Or re written
So yes the actual laptop the body screen key board could be hunters tracked by serial number and Apple ID.
But it all comes down to the hard drive and a court would be hard to accept anything on it. as probable cause to start an investigation or accept as evidence
A House committee are not bound by the rules of evidence and the GOPQ have no regard for evidence anyway or power to prosecute. Show it will be all in the window and rumors.
The investigation into Hunter Biden began in 2018, Unrelated to his laptop But for taxes
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im guessing the fbi can tell if it’s the original hard drive. but on top
of everything else, now you’re a tech expert.
First, you said everything on the laptop was harmless, not i docstuve of any wrongdoing. Are you saying. Hunters political
opponents replaced the hard drive with one that had nothing incriminating?
WDMSO: there’s nothing incriminating on the laptop. And if there is, the GOP put it there!!
wayne, take off the to. foil hat for one second and think. consider what you know about hunter biden. Would it really be surprising to you, if he did things he wasn’t supposed to, for millions of dollars?
you’re taking talking points from Joy Behar now?
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01-21-2023, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
im guessing the fbi can tell if it’s the original hard drive. but on top
of everything else, now you’re a tech expert.
First, you said everything on the laptop was harmless, not i docstuve of any wrongdoing. Are you saying. Hunters political
opponents replaced the hard drive with one that had nothing incriminating?
WDMSO: there’s nothing incriminating on the laptop. And if there is, the GOP put it there!!
wayne, take off the to. foil hat for one second and think. consider what you know about hunter biden. Would it really be surprising to you, if he did things he wasn’t supposed to, for millions of dollars?
you’re taking talking points from Joy Behar now?
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WDMSO: there’s nothing incriminating on the laptop. And if there is, the GOP put it there!!
Sorry Jim no tinfoil hat seems again you’re unabashedly think Rudy would never do such a think. And please keep ignoring the law. If there was a criminal activity to be found Rudy and the gop contaminated the entire crime scene.
If you had any Common sense you’d understand that . And making money off your family name isn’t a crime ..
not paying your taxes is . funny the gop claims the irs is coming for your money so we must defund them.
Yet the only credible crime hunter may have committed is tax fraud.
Maybe the IRS shouldn’t investigate Hunter by gop standards
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01-21-2023, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
WDMSO: there’s nothing incriminating on the laptop. And if there is, the GOP put it there!!
Sorry Jim no tinfoil hat seems again you’re unabashedly think Rudy would never do such a think. And please keep ignoring the law. If there was a criminal activity to be found Rudy and the gop contaminated the entire crime scene.
If you had any Common sense you’d understand that . And making money off your family name isn’t a crime ..
not paying your taxes is . funny the gop claims the irs is coming for your money so we must defund them.
Yet the only credible crime hunter may have committed is tax fraud.
Maybe the IRS shouldn’t investigate Hunter by gop standards
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i’m not saying the GOP would never stoop to that ..i’m saying we’d know if they did
The FBI had the laptop for a long time. THEY had it. And they aren’t saying it was tampered with
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that it was tampered with?
You desperately hope it was tampered with. That doesn’t mean it was.
you’re scared, and it’s showing. The laptop, the classified documents debacle, and a very possible/probable recession coming. i get why you’re scared, i do. It’ll be OK.
making money off your family name isn’t necessarily a crime. but it obviously might be. depends on what was done. And again, i’m more concerned with why the FBI thought it was their job to lie about the laptop being russian information, just before the election. One reasonable explanation would be that they wanted to help Biden. I can’t think of another explanation, maybe there is one. Hopefully the hearings will illuminate that. f there is i fence to suggest it was russian disinformation, no one has shared that. it appears the FBI made that up. And again, they had the laptop when they made that claim. They’d therefore know. Today, the FBI isn’t saying the laptop was planted by russians, nor are they saying it was tampered with.
If chain of custody principles were trampled to prevent a prosecution, i’d still like to know what happened, so would many others
Those hearings are coming.
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01-21-2023, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i’m not saying the GOP would never stoop to that ..i’m saying we’d know if they did
The FBI had the laptop for a long time. THEY had it. And they aren’t saying it was tampered with
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that it was tampered with?
You desperately hope it was tampered with. That doesn’t mean it was.
you’re scared, and it’s showing. The laptop, the classified documents debacle, and a very possible/probable recession coming. i get why you’re scared, i do. It’ll be OK.
making money off your family name isn’t necessarily a crime. but it obviously might be. depends on what was done. And again, i’m more concerned with why the FBI thought it was their job to lie about the laptop being russian information, just before the election. One reasonable explanation would be that they wanted to help Biden. I can’t think of another explanation, maybe there is one. Hopefully the hearings will illuminate that. f there is i fence to suggest it was russian disinformation, no one has shared that. it appears the FBI made that up. And again, they had the laptop when they made that claim. They’d therefore know. Today, the FBI isn’t saying the laptop was planted by russians, nor are they saying it was tampered with.
If chain of custody principles were trampled to prevent a prosecution, i’d still like to know what happened, so would many others
Those hearings are coming.
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Do you have any evidence whatsoever that it was tampered with?
You desperately hope it was tampered with. That doesn’t mean it was.
Jim you don’t need to prove it was tampered with all they need to prove is Rudy had possession of the laptop.. game over inadmissible in court
House hearings won’t change that . They have no law enforcement authority
If chain of custody principles were trampled to prevent a prosecution, i’d still like to know what happened, so would many others
Still don’t get it. Do you? chain of custody principles were trampled by Rudy and the gop operatives who thought they could influence the election with what they thought was a smoking gun ..
Only the MAGA horde want to know what happened hell their still waiting on the Durham report to save them. You still waiting With them?
And your expecting a party who allowed Greene 9/11 truther who has history of embracing far-right conspiracies on the homeland security committee
To be trusted by the American people . You’re crazy
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01-21-2023, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that it was tampered with?
You desperately hope it was tampered with. That doesn’t mean it was.
Jim you don’t need to prove it was tampered with all they need to prove is Rudy had possession of the laptop.. game over inadmissible in court
House hearings won’t change that . They have no law enforcement authority
If chain of custody principles were trampled to prevent a prosecution, i’d still like to know what happened, so would many others
Still don’t get it. Do you? chain of custody principles were trampled by Rudy and the gop operatives who thought they could influence the election with what they thought was a smoking gun ..
Only the MAGA horde want to know what happened hell their still waiting on the Durham report to save them. You still waiting With them?
And your expecting a party who allowed Greene 9/11 truther who has history of embracing far-right conspiracies on the homeland security committee
To be trusted by the American people . You’re crazy
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and democrats out Eric Swalwell, he who sleeps with Chinese spies, on the house i telling everyone committee. that’s more trustworthy?
You’re in a glass house wayne.
the republicans won’t be testifying. just calling witnesses and asking questions.
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01-21-2023, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
and democrats out Eric Swalwell, he who sleeps with Chinese spies, on the house i telling everyone committee. that’s more trustworthy?
You’re in a glass house wayne.
the republicans won’t be testifying. just calling witnesses and asking questions.
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Jim moving the goal post again how predictable
with an alleged Chinese spy, Christine Fang Jim still figuring out what alleged means
And Swalwell cut all his ties to Fang after he was alerted by the FBI to the investigation, according to Axios, and there is no publicly available evidence Swalwell knew or suspected Fang was working for Beijing, nor is there evidence Fang broke any laws through her fundraising.
Jim being his usual Intellectually, dishonest, Self
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01-21-2023, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Hey all you computer geniuses, the physical laptop could be hunters, but the chain of custody there is no way that you can prove that the original hard drive hadn’t been replaced because they’re replaceable. Or re written
So yes the actual laptop the body screen key board could be hunters tracked by serial number and Apple ID.
But it all comes down to the hard drive and a court would be hard to accept anything on it. as probable cause to start an investigation or accept as evidence
A House committee are not bound by the rules of evidence and the GOPQ have no regard for evidence anyway or power to prosecute. Show it will be all in the window and rumors.
The investigation into Hunter Biden began in 2018, Unrelated to his laptop But for taxes
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Did you believe, or think, or feel, that Hunters laptop content was Russian disinformation when the media cited intelligence sources that made it appear that it was?
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01-21-2023, 02:10 PM
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Did you believe, or think, or feel, that Hunters laptop content was Russian disinformation when the media cited intelligence sources that made it appear that it was?
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Hunters laptop content was Russian disinformation Makes some sense haven’t seen anything yet to disprove that possibility
There’s no intelligence source who specifically said the laptop was Russian disinformation.
The memo to all social media companies was look out for the possibility of Russian disinformation
Still waiting on what you feel is on the hard drive and what will it prove
You should read the article I linked
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01-21-2023, 04:49 PM
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Hunters laptop content was Russian disinformation Makes some sense haven’t seen anything yet to disprove that possibility
Why does it make sense if there is no proof that it is? And several of its emails have been verified by forensic experts. And early on, the DOJ said it was not Russian Disinformation.
There’s no intelligence source who specifically said the laptop was Russian disinformation.
I didn't say Intel specifically said it was, but that it characterized it as such, i.e. had all the earmarks of Russian disinformation. Which effectively cripples it--actually serves to "debunk" it in the eyes of many.
he memo to all social media companies was look out for the possibility of Russian disinformation
And it was known by those who wrote the memo that the laptop story was about to be broken, so the news media, and social media were primed by them to view it as Russian disinformation. And so treated it as such, either debunking it or suppressing it. The release of the Twitter files has shown how it was primed to block it.
Still waiting on what you feel is on the hard drive and what will it prove
I have no feelings about what is on the Hard drive. I was not even disgusted with the supposedly disturbing photos on it.
You should read the article I linked
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I did. It stated that several of the emails were verified, and some, including banking transactions and connection with Ukraine corruption.
But my question to you, was what did you believe, think, or feel about the story when it was characterized by various intel people and your favorite, or preferred media, as Russian disinformation. What effect, at the time when that happened did it have on your view of the story?
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01-21-2023, 05:58 PM
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I did. It stated that several of the emails were verified, and some, including banking transactions and connection with Ukraine corruption.
But my question to you, was what did you believe, think, or feel about the story when it was characterized by various intel people and your favorite, or preferred media, as Russian disinformation. What effect, at the time when that happened did it have on your view of the story?
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And it was known by those who wrote the memo
Did that conclusion come with a roll of tinfoil ? Because we know it’s not based on evidence
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01-21-2023, 07:10 PM
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And it was known by those who wrote the memo
Did that conclusion come with a roll of tinfoil ? Because we know it’s not based on evidence
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The evidence that the FBI knew in advance that the NYP post story on the Hunter lap top was going to be reported is revealed in the Twitter Files that have been released. Perhaps, most likely, you didn't watch the video I posted. But you do want me to read what you post.
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01-21-2023, 05:54 PM
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Hunters laptop content was Russian disinformation Makes some sense haven’t seen anything yet to disprove that possibility
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how about the fact that today, twitter and facebook and cbs have all said it’s a legit laptop? Is the FBI claiming that the laptop is in any way, a product of russian disinformation? is anyone other than you, still making that claim?
wayne, have you seen any evidence to support the idea that it’s russian disinformation?
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01-21-2023, 05:56 PM
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how about the fact that today, twitter and facebook and cbs have all said it’s a legit laptop? Is the FBI claiming that the laptop is in any way, a product of russian disinformation? is anyone other than you, still making that claim?
wayne, have you seen any evidence to support the idea that it’s russian disinformation?
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Guessed you missed the whole part that laptop hard drives can be removed and replaced ![Huh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/huh.gif)
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01-21-2023, 06:37 PM
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Guessed you missed the whole part that laptop hard drives can be removed and replaced ![Huh](http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/huh.gif)
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Because the Computer Forensic Professionals always get stymied by that.
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01-21-2023, 06:40 PM
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Because the Computer Forensic Professionals always get stymied by that.
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right, the FBI, who had the laptop, would have no way of knowing if that had happened.
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