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[PaulS]

What makes Rs so susceptible to wild conspiracy theories?

Newly revealed text messages from former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows' phone show that former Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) was a true believer in the false conspiracy theory that Antifa was really behind the January 6th Capitol riots.

As reported by Talking Points Memo, Gohmert sent Meadows a text message on January 8th, two days after the assault on the Capitol, pushing the Trump chief of staff to get the Department of Justice involved in an investigation to uncover the purported truth about the riots.

"Constitutional loyal DOJ personnel have 11 days to prove the truth: Antifa led the breach of the Capitol," Gohmert wrote to Meadows. "If the evidence is not shown to the public in 11 days, then it will be subverted & the false narrative will likely be the Trump legacy that DT & his loyal supporters under his urging attacked the Capitol. It was a brilliant leftist op, but it's got to be exposed by DOJ quick."

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by PaulS

What makes Rs so susceptible to wild conspiracy theories?"

Well you could ask Jim, but his answer would be, tell me what conspiracy theories I believe…….I’ll wait. Or ask RR, but then you would be told to go F yourself. There are others who mask it in the belief the left deep state controls everything in order to maintain power, believing the 6th was necessary to stop them, yet still wrapping themselves in their belief in the constitution.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Well you could ask Jim, but his answer would be, tell me what conspiracy theories I believe…….I’ll wait. Or ask RR, but then you would be told to go F yourself. There are others who mask it in the belief the left deep state controls everything in order to maintain power, believing the 6th was necessary to stop them, yet still wrapping themselves in their belief in the constitution.

so if you accuse me of believing in crazy conspiracy theories, it’s not valid for me to ask you which crazy theories i agree with? That’s not a legitimate question?

democrats believe republicans hate women, and that the world was supposed to have come to
an end already, and that hits a great idea for men to share bathrooms with women, to compete physically with women, that the solution to crime is fewer cops, that everything is about race, etc.

Ample craziness all around. No shortage on the right for sure. i never claimed otherwise. All i claim is that there are more good public policy ideas in the right. Not that there are better people on the right, or smarter people. You guys are the ones making that claim.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so if you accuse me of believing in crazy conspiracy theories, it’s not valid for me to ask you which crazy theories i agree with? That’s not a legitimate question?

democrats believe republicans hate women, and that the world was supposed to have come to
an end already, and that hits a great idea for men to share bathrooms with women, to compete physically with women, that the solution to crime is fewer cops, that everything is about race, etc.

Ample craziness all around. No shortage on the right for sure. i never claimed otherwise. All i claim is that there are more good public policy ideas in the right. Not that there are better people on the right, or smarter people. You guys are the ones making that claim.

As usual you claim right wing rhetoric to be truth.
But when you’re a member of the party of victims and insurrectionists what else would anyone expect.
It’s been fun watching watching your ilk cycle from blaming first Antifa, then the FBI for the insurrection they planned.

Much of what has happened to the GOP has nothing to do with politics. It’s the story of a voluntary association of people who decided to not only tolerate petty viciousness but value it. Graciousness & kindness are seen as weakness. It’s not new or interesting. It’s just a choice.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

As usual you claim right wing rhetoric to be truth.
But when you’re a member of the party of victims and insurrectionists what else would anyone expect.
It’s been fun watching watching your ilk cycle from blaming first Antifa, then the FBI for the insurrection they planned.

Much of what has happened to the GOP has nothing to do with politics. It’s the story of a voluntary association of people who decided to not only tolerate petty viciousness but value it. Graciousness & kindness are seen as weakness. It’s not new or interesting. It’s just a choice.
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"you’re a member of the party of victims and insurrectionists what else would anyone expect."

When you ignore every violent protect the left has ever engaged in, I guess the landscape looks pretty one-sided. but the fact is, in 2016, a small number of house democrats sought to overturn the election, because they didn't like that they had lost. Just about every violent, politically-motivated riot in the last 35 years, up until January 6th, was initiated by the left. Those are facts whether you happen to like them or not.

"It’s the story of a voluntary association of people who decided to not only tolerate petty viciousness but value it. "

It's the story of a party that grew tired of showing up with boxing gloves when the democrats were wearing brass knuckles, so we finally nominated a guy who was better at fighting dirty than the left. You're not used to Republicans fighting back (Bush, McCain, Romney all sat there smiling as the left told the world they were evil, racist, hated women, etc). You got used to Republicans who'd take the cheap shots. Well those days are gone. We went too far (in my opinion) with Trump, we need someone who will fight back but do it with civility and maturity, which is way beyond Trumps abilities. In any event, he'll be gone from the scene no later than 2024. The up-and-comers (Desantis, Cotton, Scott, Crenshaw, Noem, Haley) are nothing like Trump.

Pete, when you ignore everything unethical the left has ever done, and you ignore everything good that the right has ever done, that makes the left look a lot better than the right. But it's not a sane way to compare the 2 sides.

Look at the number or elected offices currently held by each party. America obviously isn't buying what you're selling.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"you’re a member of the party of victims and insurrectionists what else would anyone expect."

When you ignore every violent protect the left has ever engaged in, I guess the landscape looks pretty one-sided. but the fact is, in 2016, a small number of house democrats sought to overturn the election, because they didn't like that they had lost. Someone told them to sit down, who was that?Just about every violent, politically-motivated riot in the last 35 years, up until January 6th, was initiated by the left. Those are facts whether you happen to like them or not.

You missed Janurary 6th, Oklahoma city bombing, charlottesville and lots of other rightwing terrorists

"It’s the story of a voluntary association of people who decided to not only tolerate petty viciousness but value it. "

It's the story of a party that grew tired of showing up with boxing gloves when the democrats were wearing brass knuckles, so we finally nominated a guy who was better at fighting dirty than the left. You're not used to Republicans fighting back (Bush, McCain, Romney all sat there smiling as the left told the world they were evil, racist, hated women, etc). You got used to Republicans who'd take the cheap shots. Well those days are gone. We went too far (in my opinion) with Trump, we need someone who will fight back but do it with civility and maturity, which is way beyond Trumps abilities. In any event, he'll be gone from the scene no later than 2024. The up-and-comers (Desantis, Cotton, Scott, Crenshaw, Noem, Haley) are nothing like Trump.
Ron DeSantis banned books, banned abortion, banned Black history month, banned saying gay, criminalized peaceful protests, punished those who dared oppose his policies from officials to Disney to the Tampa Bay Rays but DeSantis tells us he is all about one thing: Freedom.
Running Tom Cotton another Herschel Walker boy, who said gays “should have perspective. They hang you in Iran for the crime of being gay,” just blocked the PRESS Act designed to protect journalists Trump called “enemies of the people.” Conservatives fear a free press.
"Men are simple creatures. It doesn't take much to please us. The problem is women. Divorce is almost always their fault. They refuse to be satisfied by what God has given them."
The richest man in Congress, Senator Rick Scott, is trying to END Social Security and Medicare. The Senator is an entitled and DISGUSTING man who also DEFRAUDED Medicare!
Noem “Can you imagine an elected official being able to force state investment officers into putting state money into securities that conform with said official’s political persuasion? No competent investment professional would stand for it.”
and Haley; Did Donald Trump really say the people of S. C. are embarrassed by Nikki Haley?
Nikki Haley suggests American born Senator Raphael Warnock - whose father served in the Second World War - should go back to.. wherever.
It reminds me of when Nikki Haley went on a crusade against the UN peacekeeping budget + China gladly jumped in to eliminate human rights positions.


Pete, when you ignore everything unethical the left has ever done, and you ignore everything good that the right has ever done, that makes the left look a lot better than the right. But it's not a sane way to compare the 2 sides.

Look at the number or elected offices currently held by each party. America obviously isn't buying what you're selling.

Poor victim, as I said
Much of what has happened to the GOP has nothing to do with politics. It’s the story of a voluntary association of people who decided to not only tolerate petty viciousness but value it. Graciousness & kindness are seen as weakness. It’s not new or interesting. It’s just YOUR choice.