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Old 12-05-2022, 11:15 AM   #1
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Most people don’t want government involved in medical decisions that should be between patient and physician, nobody except Republican media thinks boy and girl locker rooms will be coed, most Americans think the wealthy should also pay taxes and most Americans think that they don’t want their kids to suffer lifelong effects of a disease that little is known about.

Demographics have spelled the end of the GOP for years; what we're seeing is the party's death throes.

That the GOP considers Herschel Walker qualified to serve in the US Senate, the DeSantis administration defining woke as “The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and their is a need to address them.” and Donald Trump's call to overthrow the Constitution as "he says many things" demonstrates beyond a doubt that it no longer has a reason to exist.
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"Most people don’t want government involved in medical decisions that should be between patient and physician"

The data could not be more clear, Americans want access to abortion. It's a losing issue for Republicans in most places. But a fight worth fighting and losing in my opinion.

"nobody except Republican media thinks boy and girl locker rooms will be coed"

You're simply lying. Tell that to this high school female student who was expected to change in her locker room in front of a boy on her volleyball team, and she was suspended from school for complaining about it. Pete, you just flat-out lie when the facts don't fit. you're insane.

"Vermont's state law means that students can play sports and use the locker which correspond to the gender with which they identify. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...peaks-out.html

"most Americans think the wealthy should also pay taxes "

Then I have good news for you, the wealthy pay a hugely disproportionate share of federal income taxes. Can you name a single influential Republican ho says that the wealthy should pay no taxes? What re you referring to?

"Demographics have spelled the end of the GOP for years;"

Maybe. Yet Ron Desantis won Miami-Dade. And governor Youngkin did great with Hispanics. That tide may be changing, and not in a way that you'll like.

"what we're seeing is the party's death throes."

You say so.

"That the GOP considers Herschel Walker qualified to serve in the US Senate"

He's a godawful candidate. But he's no worse by any measure, than Fetterman. Except you agree with Fettermans policies.

"Donald Trump's call to overthrow the Constitution"

I posted that here, I'm the one who posted it. I will never vote for him again. But your side makes a constant habit of ignoring the parts of the constitution they don't happen to like, that's how Roe got decided in the first place. That's how affirmative action is allowed, how Christian bakers are forced to participate in gay weddings, it's how churches ere shut down during covid but liquor stores stayed open. it all requires a willful disregard of the constitution, no different from what Trump is calling for - trashing the parts of the constitution that you don't happen to like.

"most Americans think that they don’t want their kids to suffer lifelong effects of a disease that little is known about. "

SO there's a disease that hurts kids that republicans like? What is it, exactly?

All your certainty about how out of touch the GOP is, and yet they control the house, at least 49% of the senate, and a majority of state governorships and legislatures.

Why is that?
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:21 AM   #2
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"Most people don’t want government involved in medical decisions that should be between patient and physician"

The data could not be more clear, Americans want access to abortion. It's a losing issue for Republicans in most places. But a fight worth fighting and losing in my opinion.

"nobody except Republican media thinks boy and girl locker rooms will be coed"

You're simply lying. Tell that to this high school female student who was expected to change in her locker room in front of a boy on her volleyball team, and she was suspended from school for complaining about it. Pete, you just flat-out lie when the facts don't fit. you're insane.

"Vermont's state law means that students can play sports and use the locker which correspond to the gender with which they identify. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...peaks-out.html

"most Americans think the wealthy should also pay taxes "

Then I have good news for you, the wealthy pay a hugely disproportionate share of federal income taxes. Can you name a single influential Republican ho says that the wealthy should pay no taxes? What re you referring to?

"Demographics have spelled the end of the GOP for years;"

Maybe. Yet Ron Desantis won Miami-Dade.

"what we're seeing is the party's death throes."

You say so.

"That the GOP considers Herschel Walker qualified to serve in the US Senate"

He's a godawful candidate. But he's no worse by any measure than Fetterman.

"Donald Trump's call to overthrow the Constitution"

I posted that here. I will never vote for him again. But your side makes a constant habit of ignoring the parts of the constitution they don't happen to like, that's how Roe got decided in the first place. That's how affirmative action is allowed, how Christian bakers are forced to participate in gay weddings. it requires a willful disregard of the constitution

"most Americans think that they don’t want their kids to suffer lifelong effects of a disease that little is known about. "

SO there's a disease that hurts kids that republicans like? What is it, exactly?

All your certainty about how out of touch the GOP is, and yet they control the house, at least 49% of the senate, and a majority of state governorships and legislatures.

Why is that?
Poor victim
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The comms director for the Gov of Oklahoma thinks it's elitist to require teachers to have more than a high school degree.
Why do red states have the lowest education levels?
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:38 AM   #3
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Poor victim
Just keep believing
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The comms director for the Gov of Oklahoma thinks it's elitist to require teachers to have more than a high school degree.
Why do red states have the lowest education levels?
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You said its a Republican lie about lockers being co-ed.

I posted a recent, actual event that proves 100% that I was right and that you were wrong.

And I'm the victim?

To quote Inigo Montoya, a great character from a great movie..."you keep using that word. I do not think it means, what you think it means".
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Old 12-05-2022, 11:43 AM   #4
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Why do red states have the lowest education levels?
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Because they're poorer on average.

But I don't equate education with intelligence. That's what's elitist. Education doesn’t seem to have benefitted you at all.

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Old 12-05-2022, 06:06 PM   #5
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Because they're poorer on average.

But I don't equate education with intelligence. That's what's elitist. Education doesn’t seem to have benefitted you at all.
Why are they poorer?

They have the great advantage of Republican leadership…..
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Old 12-05-2022, 06:12 PM   #6
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Why are they poorer?

They have the great advantage of Republican leadership…..
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How about this. I'll answer your questions, when you answer mine.

Are you still saying it's a republican lie that girls' locker rooms are becoming coed thanks to LGBTQ policies?

Although I have to say this, only a liberal would assume that elected officials determine whether people end up being poor or not.

Also, if you're going to compare the wealth of states, you need to normalize for what's happening in the cities. For example, democrats love to point out that LA is a red state, but has a very high murder rate. What they leave out, is that the murder rate is driven by New Orleans, which is deep blue.

But liberals are wealthier than conservatives Pete, this isn't new.
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