only republicans misbehave?

[wdmso]

more republicans acting badly

Florida’s dark money playbook: How ‘ghost’ candidate scheme revealed secretive political tactics
The mailers featured a stock photo of a Black woman, promised a candidate free from the influence of special interests who would “change the politics in Tallahassee,” and emphasized her focus on social justice, climate change and campaign finance reform.

It was pure fiction.

Iannotti is a white woman who was already planning to move to Sweden. The mailers were designed by Republican strategists in Tallahassee.

The individuals are charged with the scheme to run "ghost" candidates in the state of Florida to benefit 3 Republican Senate candidates.

According to original reporting from the Orlando Sentinel, the purpose of the campaign was to use Iannoti to siphon votes away from Democrat Patricia Sigman to help State Sen. Jason Brodeur, a Republican, win the election. Brodeur won with 50% of the vote, but it is not clear that Iannoti’s candidacy helped Brodeur.

The Sentinel alleges the scheme in Seminole County is similar to one in South Florida, in which a “ghost candidate,” Alex Rodriguez, did succeed in siphoning votes away from the Democratic incumbent, Jose Rodriguez, and helped elect Republican challenger Ileana Garcia by 32 votes.

we don't need election integrity We need republicans to have integrity

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

we don't need election integrity We need republicans to have integrity

thank God we have democrats to provide integrity

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

thank God we have democrats to provide integrity

The contrast is pretty stark.

Biden and Obama killed al Qaeda’s top leadership. Trump freed 5,000 Taliban. That’s the difference.

And this weekend Trump was at Bedminster kowtowing to his Saudi benefactors and spinning 9/11 conspiracy theories, Biden was authorizing the liquidation of Bin Laden's co-plotter.

Sorta ironic, huh?
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[PaulS]

This would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad.

President Joe Biden announced that the U.S. killed top al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri, who served as Osama bin Laden's No. 2 in the ongoing attacks on the United States. But according to an NBC report from 2020, former President Donald Trump had an opportunity to do the same, but refused because he didn't recognize al-Zawahiri's name.

Reporting in early 2020, NBC News reported that intelligence officials briefed then-President Trump many times about the most worrisome terrorist threats, specifically mentioning al-Zawahri.

Trump would ultimately agree to take out ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and Yemeni al Qaeda chief Qasim al-Rimi. But other of the significant names on the CIA's list were ignored.

Trump "was more interested in a young and less influential figure much farther down the list, according to two people familiar with the briefings, because he recognized the name," the report said at the time.

"He would say, 'I've never heard of any of these people. What about Hamza bin Laden?'" the former official told NBC.

A Pentagon official agreed, noting, "That was the only name he knew."

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

President Joe Biden announced that the U.S. killed top al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri,

the world won't miss him...

cause of death should be listed as "Biden's Historically Low Polling Numbers".....

[Pete F.]

BREAKING NEWS: Donald Trump announces that Ayman al-Zawahiri will be buried next to the 11th hole at Bedminster
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[wdmso]

When Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orbán, arrived in the U.S. this week, he bypassed the White House and President Biden to pay a visit to a more admiring U.S. president. He caught up with former President Donald Trump at his golf course in Bedminster, N.J.


many in the right wing of the Republican party, Orbán offers a model for electoral success.


They have a funny definition of electoral success ..

most people call it Lying with a dash of Stealing then calling it election integrity



Many Hungarian policies would rankle the American right. Abortion is legal in Hungary, to a point. The state greatly restricts private gun ownership. And the government offers health care to all.

Such distinctions make no difference to fans seeking inspiration from a strong leader


He's fighting for an old white world or old white Europe where, you know, men were men and women were women," "And there were no transgender people or gay people. Or if there were gay people they stayed at home."

Now we know the real reason Republicans love Him

[wdmso]

BBC headline says it all

Viktor Orban alone in Europe but among friends at CPAC in Texas
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by wdmso

BBC headline says it all

Viktor Orban alone in Europe but among friends at CPAC in Texas
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Ted and Victor are a pair, it’s right out in the open what the far right (more main stream republicans now) want.

[Pete F.]

CPAC admires Orban because
1. He bent the rules, changing his constitution and altering voting laws in order to remain in power, indefinitely
2. He destroyed the independent media; nothing remains but a few websites
3. He doesn't keep his homophobia, his anti-semitism or his racism a secret

4. He moves, walks and talks like a Ruritanian dictator from a movie

They would like to do and be all of these things too

He hates Ukraine for the same reasons Putin does: because Ukrainians actively fought their own illiberal autocrats.

Plus Putin has made a large, secretive investment in nuclear power in Hungary. Corruption is the secret fuel that powers Orban's regime.

I've been saying for months The Cult's model for America is Hungary and a leader like Orban. Their policies align w/Orban's. If they succeed they will never be out of power. They've been on this path for years - think culture wars, election fraud, fake news. It won't end w/Trump.
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[wdmso]

What really I find scary many here only think my views on this topic are solely driven because they are Republicans . It’s an argument so feeble and absent of any critical thought or historical comparisons

Many Republicans Have completely abandons The example of America the shining city on upon a hill

And are trying to replace it . With white is right and Allahu Akbar
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What really I find scary many here only think my views on this topic are solely driven because they are Republicans .
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come on! nobody thinks that your opinions are merely partisan politics.

it’s just a coincidence that in your thousands of posts, you have never once agreed with the right or disagreed with the left. zero partisanship there, or when you say the gop are a bunch of white nationalists ( especially now, when the hispanic community is making a meaningful shift to the right).


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

come on! nobody thinks that your opinions are merely partisan politics.

it’s just a coincidence that in your thousands of posts, you have never once agreed with the right or disagreed with the left. zero partisanship there, or when you say the gop are a bunch of white nationalists ( especially now, when the hispanic community is making a meaningful shift to the right).


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For once you guessed correctly . you were to whom I was referring

Jim your silence on Cpac aka conservatives comic con

Is just another example of putting party before Country

Ps I respond to your posts All 18,81
With my Posts: 7,594 1/2 about actually fishing.


And get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election.. oh wait you still think that didn’t happen or you don’t care
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

For once you guessed correctly . you were to whom I was referring

Jim your silence on Cpac aka conservatives comic con

Is just another example of putting party before Country

Ps I respond to your posts All 18,81
With my Posts: 7,594 1/2 about actually fishing.


And get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election.. oh wait you still think that didn’t happen or you don’t care
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I'm serious. Just because you've made 7,000 posts and every single one of them, without exception, defends the left and bashes the right, that's no evidence that you're a rabid partisan.

"And get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election."

I did get back to you, that's exactly what happened in 2016. But it's always OK when democrats do it! But again, just because everything is OK when the left does it, doesn't mean you're a blind partisan. No sir!

You are your own man, you can think for yourself, which is why no one has any idea how you'll come down on any issue. You're completely unpredictable.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm serious. Just because you've made 7,000 posts and every single one of them, without exception, defends the left and bashes the right, that's no evidence that you're a rabid partisan.

"And get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election."

I did get back to you, that's exactly what happened in 2016. But it's always OK when democrats do it! But again, just because everything is OK when the left does it, doesn't mean you're a blind partisan. No sir!

You are your own man, you can think for yourself, which is why no one has any idea how you'll come down on any issue. You're completely unpredictable.

I did get back to you, that's exactly what happened in 2016.

You’re so disingenuous it’s sad

Plz keep the false equivalence crown you earned it.
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[Got Stripers]

Whataboutism Jim strikes again, anyone surprised?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Whataboutism Jim strikes again, anyone surprised?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...3294?_amp=true

tell
us what either me, or politico, got wrong, please?
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wdmso: tell
me when democrats ever tried to steal a national election.

jim: according to factual history and this politico article, democrats in the house tried to do exactly that in 2016z

GS; that’s what about ism, because democrats didn’t write it down. ( it can’t be an attempt to steal an election unless it’s written down, everybody knows that.)

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...3294?_amp=true

tell
us what either me, or politico, got wrong, please?
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wdmso: tell
me when democrats ever tried to steal a national election.

jim: according to factual history and this politico article, democrats in the house tried to do exactly that in 2016z

GS; that’s what about ism, because democrats didn’t write it down. ( it can’t be an attempt to steal an election unless it’s written down, everybody knows that.)

The rules were followed and nothing happened, to use one of your classics; am I going to slow for you?

[Pete F.]

Jim’s not a cult member, because a poll said…..

A Republican candidate for congress says that if he gets elected, he'll file a bill to "Remove #^&#^&#^&#^& Cheney's name from all Federal buildings" due to his criticism of Trump

But remember, they're for "Free speech" and against "Cancel culture." Oh, And they're not a cult.Not at all
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[wdmso]

Seeing you don’t follow history

For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017,

Move to 2030

According to Forbes, "Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) signed an objection to Arizona's electoral votes for Biden"

Even though Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021

Yep their the same

I love how you refuse to see the before. Claim the during is the same then go back to ignore the after and the current

Not to mention false electors

Please stop cherry picking what happened in 2020 and look at the the totality of Republicans efforts to keep Trump in power . Compared to 2016
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seeing you don’t follow history

For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017,

Move to 2030

According to Forbes, "Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) signed an objection to Arizona's electoral votes for Biden"

Even though Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021

Yep their the same

I love how you refuse to see the before. Claim the during is the same then go back to ignore the after and the current

Not to mention false electors

Please stop cherry picking what happened in 2020 and look at the the totality of Republicans efforts to keep Trump in power . Compared to 2016
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i never said they got any senators to join. i agree that’s why it failed

but democrats in the house, tried to steal the election.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i never said they got any senators to join. i agree that’s why it failed

but democrats in the house, tried to steal the election.
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Yet another of the master of false equivalence’s greatest hits

Trumplicans in 2020 and 2021 allegedly committed crimes to overturn an election.

Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?
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None. You didn't ask me to point out where democrats committed crimes, you asked me to point out where they tried to overturn an election. That's exactly what i pointed out.

Here's your post, an exact quote...

'get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election"

You didn't ask about crimes. Are you so slow, that you forget your own posts in ten minutes?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

None. You didn't ask me to point out where democrats committed crimes, you asked me to point out where they tried to overturn an election. That's exactly what i pointed out.

Here's your post, an exact quote...

'get back to me when Democrats try to overturn a national election"

You didn't ask about crimes. Are you so slow, that you forget your own posts in ten minutes?

Well,
Stable Genius Jr
You’re wrong
Wayne said that

I asked “Yet another of the master of false equivalence’s greatest hits

Trumplicans in 2020 and 2021 allegedly committed crimes to overturn an election.

Jim, what crimes are you claiming the Democrats committed in 2016?”

You know there’s zero equivalence between the two, but your master wouldn’t like that.
Might make you a RINO
DeSantis would have you and your employer sanctioned
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yep their the same


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I never said there were no differences, there were many differences. But both were cases of the losing side, unsuccessfully attempting to overturn a national election they lost.

[Pete F.]

Well the Republicans have big plans
Marjorie Taylor Greene: “The old Republican Party is over. America First is now the only way and the Trump Republican Party is going to be the party that wins.”

She’s been the GOP spokesperson and de facto gopleader for some time.

At least she is laying it out plain and clear: White Supremacy & Nationalism, while using Christian language, are the fundamental ideologies of the GOP.
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[scottw]

the crazy leftists really have themselves worked up into a lather....seem determined to convince each other via cut and paste that what they believe....... is actually true

[wdmso]

Republicans have long feuded with the mainstream media. Now many are shutting them out

Donald Trump, who infamously called the press "the enemy of the people."

Both are cut and pasted so using your logic they are not true statements or actually happening?

Scott stop being lazy . And actually provide a counter arguments .

The every things a hoax or lie mantra is old already
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