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Old 01-23-2022, 10:36 AM   #1
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ask teachers, if you want order in the classroom, is it better to be strict, or better to be soft? it’s really that simple.
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I can see why you’re no longer teaching.
That’s the same mindset that says the National Guard qualified to teach.
Never had a teacher or coach who was strict or soft that was good at it.

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Old 01-23-2022, 09:38 AM   #2
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Pete ( one day): the wealthy are largely democrat voters. that means the democrat party is right.

Pete ( another day): the wealthy are evil and corrupt and their increased wealth is ruining life. that means the democrat party is right.

no matter what happens, you’ll conclude the democrat party is right. Whether blue states thrive or fail, it means liberalism is better. Whether red states thrive or fail, it means liberalism is better. Whether liberal policies are shown to succeed or fail, liberalism
is better. Whether conservative policies thrive or fail, it means liberalism is better.

the state of CT applied some of the highest state taxes in the country, to some of the highest incomes in the country. That means we gave the state a ton of money. The liberals spent all that. Then the liberals took jillions of dollars from the casinos, and they spent all that. Then the liberals borrowed tens of thousands of dollars from every human being in the state, and they spent all that. What they created with all that spending, is a landscape so difficult to afford, that middle
class people are leaving.

the conclusion of all of you? red states did it. the people
running CT didn’t do anything stupid, short sighted, corrupt, or reckless. Nope. Poor red states did it all.

The solution? Elect more liberals to raise taxes and spend more.

Brilliant.

You are, literally, impervious to results.

I was a registered democrat. Then, i saw that pure liberalism doesn’t work. So i changed my mind.




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Old 01-23-2022, 11:41 AM   #3
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News organizations both locally and nationally have been covering the rise of cargo theft in L.A.’s northeast train tracks in the past few days. Anchors on morning news have been quick to point out that there have been over 100 arrests, and even Forbes have been quick to point out the staggering $5 million worth of merchandise lifted. L.A. TACO first reported on this last November.

Union Pacific, the train company, has gone so far as blasting L.A. District Attorney George Gascon for his policy that has enabled this rampant rise in theft.

However, one major development that may be directly correlated with the rise in theft has continuously been left out: In September of 2020, due to pandemic-related budget cuts, Union Pacific laid off an unspecified number of employees across the railroad system. Including members of its railroad-only police force. Despite record profits in the billions in the last quarter of 2021.

A Union Pacific worker, who asked to remain nameless, came forward to L.A. TACO. In their opinion, the company should “shoulder some of the responsibility instead of just pointing fingers.”

The Union Pacific Police department has jurisdiction over the 32,000 miles of track Union Pacific owns. Many of these “special agents” used to patrol this now infamous stretch of track. According to the source, the number of patrolling officers has been cut from 50 to 60 agents to eight, which the worker thinks has led to an increase in train robberies.
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Old 01-24-2022, 09:09 AM   #4
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fewer cops, fewer crimes being prosecuted, coddling criminals)


According to federal data, those worries are unfounded. Last year, as the overall U.S. economy shed 6% of workers, local police departments lost just under 1% of employees after a decade of steady expansion, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics

The nation's incarceration rate peaked at 1,000 inmates per 100,000 adults during the three-year period between 2006 and 2008. It has declined steadily since then and, at the end of 2019, was at the same level as in 1995 (810 inmates per 100,000 adults).Aug 16, 2021
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Another conservative Lie all fear

PS criminals do not act based on a pros and con method of decision making , no matter how hard Republicans want Americans to think that’s how it works.

Feelings over facts the new Republican Party. Or a when faced with a. superior argument.. now we have delusions of grandeur classic
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:34 PM   #5
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we have a constitution that other countries don’t have.

Because they are fundamentally authoritarian, Progressives do not want to be constrained, so they have been steadily dismantling the Constitution. Authoritarians like Pete find it useful to pretend their actions are constitutional simply by interpreting them to be so. They have been very successful at erasing a great deal of its restrictions on government power. They need a little more time in occupying the ruling seats of government to finish it off.

i would t say it’s fair that the wealthy get wealthier, but it’s nonsense to say it’s problematic.

pete, how would you stop it? would
yiu pass a law saying that once your net worth hits some limit, that you’re not allowed to invest anymore?

how would anyone be better off if the wealthy all put their money in their mattresses? how would that help anyone?


Excess wealth that is not put to use amounts to nothing. If wealth is property, maintaining it spreads wealth. Buying it spreads wealth. If wealth is goods, buying them spreads wealth. If what is meant by wealth is money, unused money is dead money. Bringing it to life by spending it spreads the wealth.


pete, how would you stop it? would
yiu pass a law saying that once your net worth hits some limit, that you’re not allowed to invest anymore?

Progressive authoritarians would simply confiscate the unneeded wealth from the wealthy, supposedly to redistribute it to those who need it--that is, they would more equitably bring the dead wealth to life. They would euphemize the procedure by calling it taxes. With the assumption that the wealth creators would continue creating wealth that they don't actually need, or is considered unseemly, so that it could be given to the people.

who said anything about “unregulated capitalism’? we have tons of regulations.
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Progressives believe that the only way society can "progress" is by government force. Regulations are only successful if there are enough of them. A society regulated only to the point in which things like the top 1% own 70% of the wealth is a society that, virtually, is not regulated.

The conundrum is that regulations have been the means given to the few to grow so wealthy. Authoritarians have not figured out a way to stop themselves from partaking in the wealth-fest.
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Old 01-24-2022, 06:23 PM   #6
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Progressives believe that the only way society can "progress" is by government force. Regulations are only successful if there are enough of them. A society regulated only to the point in which things like the top 1% own 70% of the wealth is a society that, virtually, is not regulated.

The conundrum is that regulations have been the means given to the few to grow so wealthy. Authoritarians have not figured out a way to stop themselves from partaking in the wealth-fest.
I would contend that a supposedly free society where 1% own 70% of the wealth is regulated by that 1% by controlling the forces that elect officials for their own benefit.
But you seem to claim that the rest of the world is stagnant and in all instances without growth, though why anyone would give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about growth if the benefits to them were de minimus is the cause of the “great resignation” in this country.
Notice that this has not occurred throughout the developed world.
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Old 01-24-2022, 07:20 PM   #7
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I would contend that a supposedly free society where 1% own 70% of the wealth is regulated by that 1% by controlling the forces that elect officials for their own benefit.
But you seem to claim that the rest of the world is stagnant and in all instances without growth, though why anyone would give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about growth if the benefits to them were de minimus is the cause of the “great resignation” in this country.
Notice that this has not occurred throughout the developed world.
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if the 1% took half if what they biden and burned it, they’d no longer own 70% of the total.

Who would be better off, komrade? you?

Why does it matter if bill gates creates more wealth for himself? why do you assume
that the less he has, the more someone else has?

it’s not a zero sum game.
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:25 PM   #8
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if the 1% took half if what they biden and burned it, they’d no longer own 70% of the total.

Who would be better off, komrade? you?

Why does it matter if bill gates creates more wealth for himself? why do you assume
that the less he has, the more someone else has?

it’s not a zero sum game.
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Drunk?

Not for the 1%
The rest continually lose, the bleeding is only a slow drip.
Pretty easy to look at the change in the middle class in the last 50 years

But look at how cheap Walmart crap is, you should be thankful for what you have 🤡
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:33 PM   #9
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Drunk?

Not for the 1%
The rest continually lose, the bleeding is only a slow drip.
Pretty easy to look at the change in the middle class in the last 50 years

But look at how cheap Walmart crap is, you should be thankful for what you have 🤡
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walmart stuff is cheaply made. it’s also cheaply priced, and it’s what the american people
want. sure you never ever go to big box stores, you buy everything from mom and pops.

i don’t especially like walmart. but their prices save their customers,,- lot of money.

the middle class got pulverized because america gave our
manufacturing to china.
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Who paid the lobbyists who wrote the legislation?
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Old 01-24-2022, 09:00 PM   #11
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beats me, i’d assume china.

when will you tell us what
law would have prevented that cop killing in NYC?
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Old 01-24-2022, 09:11 PM   #12
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beats me, i’d assume china.

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You’re getting your victimization threads mixed up
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Old 01-24-2022, 10:32 PM   #13
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I would contend that a supposedly free society

"supposedly" is a good qualifier. Our society has progressively become less free, especially under the guidance of Progressive policies. Government has constantly become larger and stronger while the individual has become weaker and less relevant.

where 1% own 70% of the wealth

You keep repeating that meme "wealth." What specific "wealth" does this un-specifically named and somewhat phantom 1% own?

is regulated by that 1% by controlling the forces that elect officials for their own benefit.

What specifically are these "forces" that elect officials?
And if these "forces" control the election of officials, and the 1% regulate the "forces," then the 1% regulated the election of Biden and defeat of Trump. But you praise Biden, and want to destroy Trump. If Trump is the enemy of the "forces" regulated by the evil 1%, and Biden is their friend, it would seem that you should reverse your loyalty.


But you seem to claim that the rest of the world is stagnant and in all instances without growth, though why anyone would give a #^&#^&#^&#^& about growth if the benefits to them were de minimus is the cause of the “great resignation” in this country.
Notice that this has not occurred throughout the developed world.
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I "seem" to claim something in your head. I don't claim this stagnancy to which you refer. On the contrary, I see a lot of turmoil in the rest of the world, including within those with varying degrees of development. I see a lot of the same types of complaints, including resistance to lockdowns, inability to stem the spread of Covid, loss of freedoms and growth of government, inflation, dissatisfaction with immigration policies, etc.
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