Liberalism in 2021

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I know these book just showed up when Biden took office ... funny how that always seems to be the case after Republicans lose the White House.. then it starts all over again

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

In the latest call from Republican leaders to ban certain books in schools, South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster is telling his state's department of education to investigate a graphic novel on queer identity being available at a school's library. He says the content in the book is "sexually explicit" and "pornographic."

Fear and hysteria hiding behind piety.. conservatives at there very worse
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

parents began to notice many of these issues as a result of having more involvement with their kids and their education as a result of covid and it's not new it's just hitting a breaking point

that’s exactly what it was, covid. but he had to make it seem like it’s an attack against Biden, it just can’t be that any parent could
have a legitimate gripe.

We may get to a point where public schoolteachers are a political
liability for democrats. Incredible to think about.
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[Jim in CT]

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

you were the one ok with banning to kill a mockingbird. but it’s not rational to ban valueless smut?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.


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yeah and the school boards have to tell them to stop reading because it's inappropriate

I wonder if Wayne realizes he's defending inappropriate books full of pornography being available to school children in one thread while upset in another thread that a guy who performed oral sex on a bunch of 9 year olds got shot....

interesting

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

yeah and the school boards have to tell them to stop reading because it's inappropriate

I wonder if Wayne realizes he's defending inappropriate books full of pornography being available to school children in one thread while upset in another thread that a guy who performed oral sex on a bunch of 9 year olds got shot....

interesting

exactly! the school boards are saying the language is inappropriate.

this is why people
say liberalism is a mental disorder. he can’t even concede this is happening, because it might paint liberalism unfavorably, and that can never be allowed.

these people
don’t merely “believe” in liberalism, they are enslaved to it, they are possessed by it. every single one of them except rock hound.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

rock hound.

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he's the best

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

yes their lying PS Parents claim they have the right to shape their kids’ school curriculum. They don’t.

you were the one ok with banning to kill a mockingbird. but it’s not rational to ban valueless smut? Now your making stuff up
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if parents want to establish what their kids learn homeschool them
its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

[scottw]

[QUOTE=wdmso;1217798]

... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

/QUOTE]

Are you sure you are an American?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

if parents want to establish what their kids learn homeschool them
its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

what lies can you show that they are telling?

just because a statement makes your side look stupid, doesn’t mean it’s a lie. i’m sorry, that’s not how it works.

they don’t have the right? who pays for that school, einstein? by what logic does the paying customer ( who pays thousands and thousands of dollars every single year) not have. say in how their money is spent?


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[Pete F.]

There seems to be a large portion of America that are more afraid of their kids holding a book in their hands than a gun.

The funny thing is, as soon as you tell a child they can’t read a book, they’ll want to read that book. And kids have ways of finding books like that.
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[wdmso]

Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

Still waiting just more of the same conservative Hair on Fire responses

Jim still waiting on the name book your 8th grader read , and where or who gave it to him... his catholic school?

Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

Still waiting just more of the same conservative Hair on Fire responses

Jim still waiting on the name book your 8th grader read , and where or who gave it to him... his catholic school?

Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played

This is hilarious
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

Still waiting just more of the same conservative Hair on Fire responses

Jim still waiting on the name book your 8th grader read , and where or who gave it to him... his catholic school?

Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played

i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the BOE members aren't accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the liars members are t accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror


Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience


Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror


Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience


Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised

he got the books at school, to read for english class. did you ever go to school?

there was much more graphic language than what you posted. sorry, that’s a fact.

how would i prove that, wayne? want me to get a letter from his english teacher?

the boards of ed aren’t denying that these books are part of the courses. if your brain can’t process that, that’s in you.
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[Jim in CT]

wayne accuses the right of fascism but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne accuses the right of racism. but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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And the people having a say in what government teaches their children is Democracy. Wayne has it all topsy-turvy. He is a clear example of Orwellian newspeak--Fascism is Democracy and Democracy is fascism.

Or maybe what the left refers to as "our democracy" is something different than what democracy used to mean. I think so.

[Pete F.]

As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.
Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.
Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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[wdmso]

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts ... even if The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. But parents know better.


they think they know more than medical professionals and demand Ivermectin and against Masks

they think the POTUS and the government control the price of Gas and can control the prices of food in a capitalistic system

they think Trump won the election reguardless of what elected officials said in both republicans and democrats .. it was not True


The Current GOP and it followers have decided They are the only arbiter's of truth.. and subject matter experts

what's next Plumbers writing electrical Code

Anti-intellectual Americans AKA GOPQ

were more likely to prefer anti-expert politicians like Trump

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

ok? wtf??

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts ... even if The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. But parents know better.


they think they know more than medical professionals and demand Ivermectin and against Masks

they think the POTUS and the government control the price of Gas and can control the prices of food in a capitalistic system

they think Trump won the election reguardless of what elected officials said in both republicans and democrats .. it was not True


The Current GOP and it followers have decided They are the only arbiter's of truth.. and subject matter experts

what's next Plumbers writing electrical Code

Anti-intellectual Americans AKA GOPQ

were more likely to prefer anti-expert politicians like Trump

"Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express "

What in Gods name does this mean?

"they want Parents to drive have a say in education"

fixed it for you.

"they are the subject experts"

I don't concede that it requires much "expertise" to know that there's better uses for school resources than having my kid read about going down on a girl, and being taught that his skin color is a character flaw.

Wayne, maybe if someone advocated more on your educational behalf, you wouldn't think that "I bet you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express" is some kind of insult. Maybe youd see the irony when you claim Republicans are fascists, but you want huge piles of money from us and claim we have no say in how it's spent.

"The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers"

Which is why parents are going to BOE meetings.

"they think the POTUS and the government control influence the price of Gas "

fixed it for you.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

are you going to tell us what this means?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

are you going to tell us what this means?

i’m very curious.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

are you going to tell us what this means?

Jim
i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim
i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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i have stayed in a holiday inn express. i just can’t imagine where you were going with that.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.

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it's not new.....this is stupid....what you characterize as intimidation for one side you refer to as "how democracy works for the other"....pathetic

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you.

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when pete leaves the overly dramatic lane and swerves into full stupid ahead

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.

Any citizen can object and petition the elected officials for changes in policies. Are you suggesting that once officials are elected they have unmitigated power to do as they please without complaint or redress from the citizens? You do seem to like all powerful forms of governing.

Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.

It is the citizens right and duty in a democracy--but apparently not in your version of "our democracy"--it is their right and duty to protest what they see as malfeasance. Isn't that what all the riots and demonstrations that you approve of are about? But it's not necessary to riot. Protests can be voiced in board meetings and town halls and letters and phone calls and petitions among various peaceful ways to communicate their objections. It is very democratic to "intimidate" elected officials with complaints that can lead to being voted out of office if they don't comply.


Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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Didn't take long to make it about Trump again. Trump . . . Trump . . . TrumpTrumpTrump . . . TDS

[Jim in CT]

WDMSO -

"they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts"

In that post, you were adamant that parents don't know enough about education to chime in.

Have you ever bothered to see how homeschooled kids do, compared to kids who go to public school? They do pretty well. Pretty darn well. If parents don't have a clue about education, why aren't home-schooled kids lagging behind?