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09-23-2021, 04:00 PM
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Also, watched the video. He looked tired but not falling asleep. Answers were pretty lucid. I get tired at times as well.
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Old men getting tired oh the horror..
The right will keep pushing the sleepy joe until they find another lie to sell to their gullible followers
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09-23-2021, 04:05 PM
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Old men getting tired oh the horror..
The right will keep pushing the sleepy joe until they find another lie to sell to their gullible followers
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try to follow…
“the right” didnt create this story. the entire press corps complained, including many on “the left.”
still confused?
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09-23-2021, 05:10 PM
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try to follow…
“the right” didnt create this story. the entire press corps complained, including many on “the left.”
still confused?
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Seem you are confused they the us press corps are upset because they didn’t get to ask a question .. not that Bided was snoring
What nothing about about the press in the enemy or the people … but but Biden
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09-23-2021, 05:32 PM
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He looked tired but not falling asleep.
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just resting his eyes.... 
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09-23-2021, 06:22 PM
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Answers were pretty lucid.
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as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok
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09-23-2021, 06:44 PM
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as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok
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I've fallen up steps. Happens with dress Shoes. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.
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09-23-2021, 06:46 PM
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I've fallen up steps. Happens with dress Shoes. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.
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yeah...not like that...
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09-23-2021, 07:26 PM
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I've fallen up steps. Happens with Depends. Hell Trump can't even walk down a ramp.
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fixed it...
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09-23-2021, 08:43 PM
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as long as he's "pretty lucid" and not falling up steps....I guess we're ok
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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09-23-2021, 09:08 PM
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Well, golf was good.
I see you boys entertained yourselves
Learned about horsies and cops
Not much about Haiti
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09-24-2021, 07:46 AM
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Learned about horsies and cops
Not much about Haiti
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Must be a real #^&#^&#^&#^&hole if they’re trying so hard to get out of it.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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09-23-2021, 09:17 PM
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From a former border patrol agent
I have refrained from saying these things because I know they sound crazy, but I cannot just sit and say nothing. Remember some months ago when Border Patrol was so overwhelmed by unaccompanied children and the conditions were horrible? Remember how took a trip out to AZ and TX to witness for myself. Now we see the same going on in Del Rio, TX. In the beginning of the Del Rio crisis, CBP claimed Border Patrol was caught off guard. Really? Border Patrol/CBP have excellent intelligence on the movement of large groups of migrants. There is no way they did not know about this group. Now today, Fox News says Border Patrol claims they warned Biden about the group in June. So which is it? Did they know or didn’t they? What I see going on, from an intelligence and operational point of view, is CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics with migrant lives. Truthfully, they have always done this, but not on this scale. Even during the Trump administration, agents admitted to me that they were told to intentionally slow walk the processing to create the overcrowded conditions we saw that led to record in custody deaths, deaths of children. They wanted to make the border look as out of control as possible to get Trump’s harshest policies through. Now they are making the fact that we have large groups of migrants coming to our southern border worse with a variety of tactics. They want the border to look out of control to make this administration look bad on border security. Notice how they blocked most other outlets except Fox News from filming here. Notice how they just simply closed down the the crossing point Haitians were using. They had enough manpower before to do it. Last night, Mexican immigration started rounding up Haitians, forcing them on buses and sending them to Chiapas. Now the former Chief of Border Patrol sent a letter to congressional members warning of imminent terrorist threats from these crises. Something’s coming. I don’t know if it’s that some National Guard kid is going to end up shooting or some militia guy maybe, but something is going to break. This will end soon, and the Border Patrol will be onto the next catastrophe to gain political points. And frankly, I don’t think Biden understands that these people are not on his team. We are playing with people’s lives here just to score political points. These are human beings.
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09-24-2021, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
From a former border patrol agent
I have refrained from saying these things because I know they sound crazy, but I cannot just sit and say nothing. Remember some months ago when Border Patrol was so overwhelmed by unaccompanied children and the conditions were horrible? Remember how took a trip out to AZ and TX to witness for myself. Now we see the same going on in Del Rio, TX. In the beginning of the Del Rio crisis, CBP claimed Border Patrol was caught off guard. Really? Border Patrol/CBP have excellent intelligence on the movement of large groups of migrants. There is no way they did not know about this group. Now today, Fox News says Border Patrol claims they warned Biden about the group in June. So which is it? Did they know or didn’t they? What I see going on, from an intelligence and operational point of view, is CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics with migrant lives. Truthfully, they have always done this, but not on this scale. Even during the Trump administration, agents admitted to me that they were told to intentionally slow walk the processing to create the overcrowded conditions we saw that led to record in custody deaths, deaths of children. They wanted to make the border look as out of control as possible to get Trump’s harshest policies through. Now they are making the fact that we have large groups of migrants coming to our southern border worse with a variety of tactics. They want the border to look out of control to make this administration look bad on border security. Notice how they blocked most other outlets except Fox News from filming here. Notice how they just simply closed down the the crossing point Haitians were using. They had enough manpower before to do it. Last night, Mexican immigration started rounding up Haitians, forcing them on buses and sending them to Chiapas. Now the former Chief of Border Patrol sent a letter to congressional members warning of imminent terrorist threats from these crises. Something’s coming. I don’t know if it’s that some National Guard kid is going to end up shooting or some militia guy maybe, but something is going to break. This will end soon, and the Border Patrol will be onto the next catastrophe to gain political points. And frankly, I don’t think Biden understands that these people are not on his team. We are playing with people’s lives here just to score political points. These are human beings.
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oh...so now it's the "CBP and Border Patrol management playing politics"....ok......
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09-24-2021, 12:32 PM
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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09-24-2021, 12:53 PM
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Jeh Johnson, DHS secretary under the Obama administration, told NPR earlier this month that he couldn’t say that family separations “never happened” during his tenure.
In other words, they happened under the Obama administration. And no one cared enough to even know it was happening, including you.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/di...rate-families/
The very photo the left used to show what a monster Trump is, was a photo from the Obama years.
You can't make this up.
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09-24-2021, 01:16 PM
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Jeh Johnson, DHS secretary under the Obama administration, told NPR earlier this month that he couldn’t say that family separations “never happened” during his tenure.
In other words, they happened under the Obama administration. And no one cared enough to even know it was happening, including you.
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/di...rate-families/
The very photo the left used to show what a monster Trump is, was a photo from the Obama years.
You can't make this up.
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What are you huffing today?
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09-24-2021, 02:03 PM
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What are you huffing today?
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He seems to not understand something could have happened? and a policy that is designed to make sure separation of families actually happen !
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09-24-2021, 03:15 PM
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He seems to not understand something could have happened? and a policy that is designed to make sure separation of families actually happen !
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you work in law enforcement, right? did you routinely see children staying with their parents while being processed through the system? or were they often separated.
if american citizens who break the law are separated from their kids for a time during processing, why do we give more benefit to foreign nationals who break the law?
Wayne, do you think it’s a good thing to discourage parents with children from crossing illegally? or is it smart to incentivize more adults to make the trip with children?
do you know what’s happening now? are we seeing more kids or less?
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09-24-2021, 04:50 PM
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you work in law enforcement, right? did you routinely see children staying with their parents while being processed through the system? or were they often separated.
if american citizens who break the law are separated from their kids for a time during processing, why do we give more benefit to foreign nationals who break the law?
Wayne, do you think it’s a good thing to discourage parents with children from crossing illegally? or is it smart to incentivize more adults to make the trip with children?
do you know what’s happening now? are we seeing more kids or less?
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Jim crossing the border is not a felony it’s. Misdemeanor
Again making comparisons that are not remotely the same
Imagine how desperate parents are to send their kids alone … no deterrent will change that
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09-24-2021, 02:55 PM
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What are you huffing today?
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Obama’s guy said that the obama
administration also separated families. you don’t quite admit that.
so why didn’t you care when obama
separated children from parents, but you are upset that trump did it?
and why do criminals have the right to expect to not be separated from their kids during processing? isn’t that what we do with criminals while they’re being processed?
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09-24-2021, 03:53 PM
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Obama’s guy said that the obama
administration also separated families. you don’t quite admit that.
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Jim, read my posts. Read your own factcheck posts.
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so why didn’t you care when obama
separated children from parents, but you are upset that trump did it?
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It wasn't news then because it was so rare.
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and why do criminals have the right to expect to not be separated from their kids during processing? isn’t that what we do with criminals while they’re being processed?
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Crossing the border is a misdemeanor. You don't take a baby from its mother over that.
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09-24-2021, 01:59 PM
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Jim Republicans only see caravans around Election Day. And these caravans seem to never materialize or actually invade our open borders !
How did the right miss this Haitian caravan? My guess the election is over and more focused on doing nothing for Americans
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09-24-2021, 02:54 PM
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Jim Republicans only see caravans around Election Day. And these caravans seem to never materialize or actually invade our open borders !
How did the right miss this Haitian caravan? My guess the election is over and more focused on doing nothing for Americans
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first you say Republicans “claim” to see them, suggest isn’t they’re not really there.
now you’re saying they “only” see them on election day, meaning they ignore the others, which is the opposite of what you originally said.
which is it, does the gop make them
up, or ignore them, or are you saying they do both?
why would they ever ignore a large caravan? it’s a winning issue for them.
let’s make this simple enough even for you. please provide some examples of the gop either fabricating large caravans, or ignoring them ?
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09-24-2021, 04:45 PM
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first you say Republicans “claim” to see them, suggest isn’t they’re not really there.
now you’re saying they “only” see them on election day, meaning they ignore the others, which is the opposite of what you originally said.
which is it, does the gop make them
up, or ignore them, or are you saying they do both?
why would they ever ignore a large caravan? it’s a winning issue for them.
let’s make this simple enough even for you. please provide some examples of the gop either fabricating large caravans, or ignoring them ?
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Jim you. Do know caravans do not enter the United States correct
If all fearful the time from the right
Try being honest .. when do these caravans get reported by fox oan newsmax or politicians .. always prior to elections..
Also never said they ignored a good caravan . I said they missed the Haitian invasion while ignoring Americans with their Policy of just say NO to anything unless it’s a Trump lie then they say yes
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09-25-2021, 03:09 AM
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Jim you. Do know caravans do not enter the United States correct
If all fearful the time from the right
Try being honest .. when do these caravans get reported by fox oan newsmax or politicians .. always prior to elections..
Also never said they ignored a good caravan . I said they missed the Haitian invasion while ignoring Americans with their Policy of just say NO to anything unless it’s a Trump lie then they say yes
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this is bidenesque....
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09-27-2021, 08:19 AM
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I bet you think they were there because of the earthquake ?
Do you even know anything about this bridge?
The International Bridge provides a safe and efficient border crossing for all citizens and is a symbol of the cross-border relations that our city fosters with Ciudad Acuña, Mexico. The International Bridge is owned and operated by the City of Del Rio, accommodating vehicular, commercial and pedestrian traffic. It is open for crossing between Texas and Mexico 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and continues to have one of the shortest crossing times along the Texas-Mexico border making it the first choice for many tourists and businesses looking to enter into Mexico through Texas.
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09-27-2021, 08:50 AM
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What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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09-27-2021, 09:34 AM
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What’s that have to do with the price of rice in China?
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In his mind, it helps deflect blame away from the left, and that’s literally all that matters. the left can’t ever be wrong.
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09-28-2021, 08:08 AM
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In his mind, it helps deflect blame away from the left, and that’s literally all that matters. the left can’t ever be wrong.
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How is the left to blame for Haitians traveling from South America ?
I know in your head illegals only come to America during when Democratic’s are in the White House
And only Republicans stops them..
So you didn’t know that bridge was an international crossing point
You like simple , the world is not black and white but keep insisting that it is …
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