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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Your correct but were not talking normal debt mortgages, car payments, a couple of credit cards. Are we but you knew that :

Until you can manage to string together 2-3 lucid posts in a row, I don't take for granted anything that comes out of your keyboard.
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[Pete F.]

If Tweety says the New York Times article regarding his tax returns is "fake news" it's time for him to step up and prove them wrong.
Pretty easy to just release his taxes and what’s the downside?

Otherwise, Americans need to assume the Times is correct and even illegal immigrants paid more than him.
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[Pete F.]

If I were Deutsche Bank executives who gave loans to Trump when no one else would, Including Anthony Kennedy’s son, I would be very, very nervous right now.
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[Got Stripers]

I truly hope after he looses, he gets some jail time, at least that cuts down on the tax payers security bill for this past POS.

[Pete F.]

So if a former President goes to jail, will he still get Secret Service protection?
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[zimmy]

$73000 in write offs for hair maintenance 🤡
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by zimmy

$73000 in write offs for hair maintenance 🤡
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Can you imagine the uproar if this was Obama or Clinton?
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[wdmso]

has anyone in there life times seen so many people with books all telling the same narrtive of Trump. And news story after news stories exposing similar behaviors form Trump.

yet when presented with this mountain of information The Trump supporter and Trump himself sees it has Fake news or a coup to remove him from office
Yet they believe QAnon is legitimate . Or Trumps a business genius but its looking like the Trump brand is a giant ponzi scheme and many Americans and the government is playing and paying right along

[Nebe]

“The tax returns also suggest that Trump’s desperation to stay in office is sparked by the 1973 Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel memo saying a sitting president cannot be indicted. Former inspector general of the Department of Justice Michael Bromwich tweeted “Trump knew something we didn't when he started balking at the peaceful transfer of power. If he loses the election, he faces federal and state prosecution for bank fraud, tax fraud, wire fraud, and mail fraud, as does his entire family. No OLC memo will spare him.”

Heather Cox Richardson
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Nebe

“The tax returns also suggest that Trump’s desperation to stay in office is sparked by the 1973 Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel memo saying a sitting president cannot be indicted. Former inspector general of the Department of Justice Michael Bromwich tweeted “Trump knew something we didn't when he started balking at the peaceful transfer of power. If he loses the election, he faces federal and state prosecution for bank fraud, tax fraud, wire fraud, and mail fraud, as does his entire family. No OLC memo will spare him.”

Heather Cox Richardson
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[Nebe]

Lock him up....
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[Pete F.]

If the NYT story is "fake news," Trump can prove it by releasing just one page of his 2016 and '17 returns, that critical last page of Form 1040 that includes his signature and total tax paid.

One page, & he could thoroughly humiliate the media. He won't, and we all know why.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the NYT story is "fake news," Trump can prove it by releasing just one page of his 2016 and '17 returns, that critical last page of Form 1040 that includes his signature and total tax paid.

One page, & he could thoroughly humiliate the media. He won't, and we all know why.
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Explain why he won’t, he claims he’ll release a “statement” but not a legal document
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[Pete F.]

Meanwhile
Parscale being under investigation by the FEC for $170 mill in money laundering, combined with this Channel 4 news story showing that Trump's campaign has had a database on every American of voting age since 2016 that categorized Black Americans as "Deterrence," explains a lot about Parscale’s meltdown
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Meanwhile
Parscale being under investigation by the FEC for $170 mill in money laundering, combined with this Channel 4 news story showing that Trump's campaign has had a database on every American of voting age since 2016 that categorized Black Americans as "Deterrence," explains a lot about Parscale’s meltdown
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Meanwhile
Since you've been barred from starting threads, you manage to sneak around the ban by inserting your would be thread into other threads. Sort of living off of and milking the life out of the host. You're a sort of thread virus.

[RickBomba]

$70 grand in haircuts. What a sucker! He should get a free bowl of soup with that haircut.
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[Pete F.]

What I’ve been saying since Trump came down the escalator is proving to be true.
Tell us again how he’s a great businessman and everyone is picking on him.

Has it occurred to anyone, that once he is out of office, Trump tries to pay off his massive debts by selling US secrets to our foreign adversaries? Has he been doing that already???

Trump tried to stage the G7 and British Open at his resorts. Both schemes blew up in his face, raising the issue of why someone as rich as he claims to be would engage in such blatant profiteering.

Now we know the answer.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What I’ve been saying since Trump came down the escalator is proving to be true.
Tell us again how he’s a great businessman and everyone is picking on him.

Has it occurred to anyone, that once he is out of office, Trump tries to pay off his massive debts by selling US secrets to our foreign adversaries? Has he been doing that already???

Trump tried to stage the G7 and British Open at his resorts. Both schemes blew up in his face, raising the issue of why someone as rich as he claims to be would engage in such blatant profiteering.

Now we know the answer.
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A whole lot of extreme, outlandish, even hateful stuff occurs to you. So far, a lot, if not most of it, remains in the maybe, purely conjectural, quite possibly doubtful, stage. A lot of it has been debunked.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Explain why he won’t, he claims he’ll release a “statement” but not a legal document
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NYT won't release who illegally shared the alleged Trump tax info. Why should we trust criminals or a news agency which feeds off of these anonymous criminals? Especially since a lot of the info in the history of this news org. proved to be false or misleading (especially in the past 4 years)? And a news agency that is blatantly political? A news agency that downplays or ignores info that contradicts its political narratives? A news agency of which a NY Post columnist recently said

"The mission is obvious: The Times aims to elect left-wing Democrats to virtually every office in the land and transform America culturally, educationally and politically. As such, it operates as the chief cheerleader for the left, and one result is that many of its readers buy it because they agree with its politics. Specifically, they like the Times because they believe the paper hates President Trump as much as it does."

The NYT probably had this illegally disseminated info for a while but strategically held it for an occasion such as just before the first debate. And to add to all its other "bombshells" in time to persuade the newly legitimized early voters to cast their votes before the possible Durham and DOJ bombshells which will probably show the dirty FBI mission to illegally remove Trump.

It doesn't matter that this new "bombshell" doesn't reveal criminal activity. It only matters that it may influence votes against Trump. Especially, again, influence early voters before any more Durham material comes out.

[Pete F.]

That’s a whole bunch of conjecture with zero facts
The NYTs reporting matches the documents they received from legal sources to publicly available documents.
And claiming that it’s patently false because a rightwing rag with hardly a sterling reputation says so is status quo for you.
As far as Durham goes, active investigations don’t have reports.
Prosecutors don’t write reports.
Durham isn’t writing a report.
He has to get indictments through grand juries....or plea deals.
It took Durham 10 months to get a plea deal on Clinesmith, after his lawyer asked for the deal. Gift wrapped.
So take a deep breath
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[falkners]

At least the orange jumpsuit they have waiting for him will match his fake spray on tan.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

That’s a whole bunch of conjecture with zero facts

It's a fact that the NYT did not reveal the source of their info

The NYTs reporting matches the documents they received from legal sources to publicly available documents.

We don't know that the "sources" were legal. The Times won't give us the "sources." And if they were legal, we don't know if their giving the info to the Times was legal. You want Trump to reveal his taxes to prove he did nothing illegal or unethical, but you're OK with the NYT not proving that they obtained their info legally by revealing the source.

And only portions of the documents match public available documents. But so what? No illegality was uncovered. Nor was any tax fraud proven. Just some supposedly distasteful stuff to try to make Trump look like a cheat.

This anonymous sources bit has been a pattern in trying to get Trump. It, rightly, creates suspicion and distrust. Especially with an agency that is so blatantly political as the NYT.

And claiming that it’s patently false because a rightwing rag with hardly a sterling reputation says so is status quo for you.

I didn't say it was patently false. There you go putting words in my mouth. I quoted a "rag," as you put it, characterizing another rag, the NYT to demonstrate that distrust of the NYT is not an aberration. A lot of people don't trust that rag.

As far as Durham goes, active investigations don’t have reports.
Prosecutors don’t write reports.
Durham isn’t writing a report.
He has to get indictments through grand juries....or plea deals.
It took Durham 10 months to get a plea deal on Clinesmith, after his lawyer asked for the deal. Gift wrapped.
So take a deep breath
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I didn't say there were reports. I said "the possible Durham and DOJ bombshells which will probably show the dirty FBI mission to illegally remove Trump." Any DOJ or Durham or Senate investigation findings or indictments will be made public. And it would be beneficial for the Dems and for Anti-Trump rags to disseminate as much innuendo, if not proven fact, as possible before the election and especially to influence early votes to be cast on the basis of anti-Trump "bombshells" before any info that is anti-Biden or pro-Trump is revealed by any ongoing investigation and so will be too late to change those votes already cast. I wouldn't be surprised if that were one of the motives to make massive or universal early voting available.

[Got Stripers]

Wow Jim it’s hard to respond to such intelligent and thoughtful a response, if Trump were a Russian oligarch with that amount of debt coming due, the CIA would be all over him like flies on dog crap. You keep believing, it’s what makes me feel sorry for you to be duped by this con man.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Wow Jim it’s hard to respond to such intelligent and thoughtful a response, if Trump were a Russian oligarch with that amount of debt coming due, the CIA would be all over him

is he a russian oligarch??

every single poll has biden ahead. you don’t all need to go bonkers now.

i thought trumps MO was to just declare bankruptcy and screw his creditors, not to resort to crimes punishable by death. why is he still not taking a salary?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you don’t all need to go bonkers now.

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now?...how bout' every day for 4 years....

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

why is he still not taking a salary?
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It was just a campaign stunt to play off his wealth which must be because a very large brain. Now we know (well we already knew) he's either a massive tax cheat or one of the worst businessmen in the US.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

if Trump were a Russian oligarch with that amount of debt coming due, the CIA would be all over him like flies on dog crap.

where do you get this nonsense?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

where do you get this nonsense?

Boy I really thought you two were smarter, how do you think our CIA, the KGB and other governments obtain assets, they turn people that are in trouble and nothing spells trouble better that a half billion of personally guaranteed loans coming due. Stay with me now, never said he was Russian, point was if he were and owed that much he’d be a choice target for the CIA. Sad that went over your heads, I’m going to have to dumb it down.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Boy I really thought you two were smarter, how do you think our CIA, the KGB and other governments obtain assets, they turn people that are in trouble and nothing spells trouble better that a half billion of personally guaranteed loans coming due. Stay with me now, never said he was Russian, point was if he were and owed that much he’d be a choice target for the CIA. Sad that went over your heads, I’m going to have to dumb it down.

And that he might owe the IRS about 100 million.

[scottw]

great thing about these fools is that they never learn...

"The article had repercussions for both McCain and The Times. He may benefit, at least in the short run, from a conservative backlash against the “liberal” New York Times. The newspaper found itself in the uncomfortable position of being the story as much as publishing the story, in large part because, although it raised one of the most toxic subjects in politics — sex — it offered readers no proof that McCain and Iseman had a romance."