breonna taylor tragedy

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i never, not once, heard anyone in the media say the cops announced themselves, nor did i ever, not once, hear the media say the cops were shot at first, hitting one in the leg, severing his artery.
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Either you don't know the facts or you're intentionally lying.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Either you don't know the facts or you're intentionally lying.

in every one of these cases the left and media has lied and mischaracterized the facts to fuel the mobs rage

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Either you don't know the facts or you're intentionally lying.

Almost no one knew those facts. If they did, they'd feel no reason to riot.

Paul, the truth no longer matters. Just The Narrative.

ANY sane person could only conclude that her death is the fault of the guy she was with.

Facts don't matter, only The Narrative.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Almost no one knew those facts. If they did, they'd feel no reason to riot.

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The facts are they entered her house and a gun fight started. Of the dozen of neighbors interviewed one said he heard the police yell bf busting the door down. Why were they entering her house? Her ex boyfriend didn't live there. The police claimed in the app. for the warrant that the ex boyfriend left her apartment about two months before with a USPS package so they assumed it was drugs. The cop then said they verified with the USPS that the ex boyfriend had been receiving packages at Taylor's house - the USPS said that is not true. I believe the new boyfriend called 911 and said someone is invading my house. Her death is the fault of crappy police work.

The bigger problem is that hardly any police are ever prosecuted. If some where then people would have more confidence that justice was being carried out.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The facts are they entered her house and a gun fight started. Of the dozen of neighbors interviewed one said he heard the police yell bf busting the door down. Why were they entering her house? Her ex boyfriend didn't live there. The police claimed in the app. for the warrant that the ex boyfriend left her apartment about two months before with a USPS package so they assumed it was drugs. The cop then said they verified with the USPS that the ex boyfriend had been receiving packages at Taylor's house - the USPS said that is not true. I believe the new boyfriend called 911 and said someone is invading my house. Her death is the fault of crappy police work.

The bigger problem is that hardly any police are ever prosecuted. If some where then people would have more confidence that justice was being carried out.

wow...that's some impressive command of the facts

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

wow...that's some impressive command of the facts

Very impressive. And note that what he chose to include and exclude, all helps serve The Narrative.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Very impressive. And note that what he chose to include and exclude, all helps serve The Narrative.

Ok, tough guy what exactly did I chose to exclude?

I really doubt you have many friends the way you talk to people bc you really come across as a #^&#^&#^&#^&.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Ok, tough guy what exactly did I chose to exclude?

I really doubt you have many friends the way you talk to people bc you really come across as a #^&#^&#^&#^&.

oh here we go....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Ok, tough guy what exactly did I chose to exclude?

I really doubt you have many friends the way you talk to people bc you really come across as a #^&#^&#^&#^&.

that the cops identified themselves, and that the guy in the apartment shot first, and hit a cop, which means a hail of bullets are going to come back, every single time/

You left those facts out. Pointing that out, doesn't make be tough. It makes me honest.

[scottw]

Andy McCarthy laid it out pretty clearly in his article this morning...

"Much of what we’ve been told about the case turns out not to be true — another “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” urban legend of police brutality. Most prominently, Attorney General Cameron explained that the police did not execute a “no knock” warrant before entering Ms. Taylor’s apartment. They knocked and announced themselves as police before forcing entry shortly after midnight.

How they came to be at Ms. Taylor’s home, with a search warrant based on probable cause that evidence of narcotics crimes would be found, is the part of the story the social-justice warriors would have us omit. It needs telling.

When she was killed, Breonna Taylor was 26, a hospital emergency-room technician who hoped to become a nurse. But over the years, she had gotten involved with Glover, a 30-year-old twice-convicted drug dealer. Though never a targeted suspect, the New York Times reports that Ms. Taylor was entangled in the frequent police investigations of Glover. Taylor remained romantically involved with him though he had spent years in prison.

In fact, after they first became a couple in 2016, Taylor agreed to rent a car for Glover and, for her trouble, ended up interviewed in a murder investigation. A man was found shot to death behind the steering wheel of that car, and drugs were found in it. Glover was connected to the decedent through an associate but was not charged in the case.

In the years that followed, Glover was repeatedly arrested on drug charges, and Taylor arranged bail for him and one of his confederates on at least two occasions. Weeks before the fateful March 2020 raid, when Glover was in custody after yet another arrest, they were recorded exchanging intimacies on the phone. After that, police surveillance established that Glover continued to make regular trips to Taylor’s apartment, and Taylor herself was seen outside a house investigators say was part of the drug trafficking operations.

Glover and his coconspirators were said to be operating a series of “trap houses” for stashing illegal drugs — crack, marijuana, and prescription pills they were unauthorized to peddle. At the time of Glover’s arrest in late 2019, police observed narcotics pick-ups, had informant information describing crack sales, and executed search warrants that yielded crack, eight guns, and a surveillance system — commonly used by drug distribution organizations to defeat police detection.

After Glover was released on bail, surveillance placed his car at Ms. Taylor’s home, ten miles away, on six occasions over the next couple of months. Taylor’s car was seen in the vicinity of a trap house associated with Glover several times, and the Times reports she was photographed in front of that location in mid-February. Police also had evidence that Glover used Taylor’s address to receive parcels sent by mail. He was seen leaving her apartment carrying a package in mid-January. As of late February — just two weeks before the warrant was executed — Glover was listing her apartment as his home address according to various databases.

On the night police executed the warrant at Ms. Taylor’s apartment, they searched other locations associated with Glover’s drug operation. The Times recounts that police “found a table covered in drugs packaged for sale, including a plastic sachet containing cocaine and fentanyl.” Moreover, the paper adds:

In a series of calls hours after her death, as Mr. Glover tried to make bail, he told another woman that he had left about $14,000 with Ms. Taylor. “Bre been having all my money,” he claimed. The same afternoon, he also told an associate he had left money at Ms. Taylor’s home.

The lawyer for the Taylor family says no drugs or cash were found in Taylor’s apartment that night. A county prosecutor counters that the shootings curtailed the search. If that is true, it is irregular: The fact that a civilian was killed and a police officer wounded would argue for doing an even more thorough search than usual, not calling it off.

In any event, the Taylor family maintains that Breonna’s romantic relationship with Glover was then over, and she was deeply involved with her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker. They had met years earlier, when they were college students. He used to work at a Coca-Cola warehouse, and she had seen him on and off over the years, including while she was involved with Glover.

On March 13, after working, she met Walker for dinner, and they returned to her apartment, where they watched television and she went to sleep after midnight.

At about 12:40 a.m., the police, led by Mattingly and Cosgrove, knocked on the door and announced themselves as police. Taylor and Walker were startled out of their sleep. Walker, a licensed owner of a nine-millimeter Glock, says he did not know it was the police at the door and speculated that it might be Glover breaking in. For their part, the police expected that Ms. Taylor would be alone — they had not seen Walker enter the dwelling with her.

It was dark and there was a long hallway between the bedroom and the front door. There was screaming. Walker fired as Mattingly came through the door, striking him in the leg and severely wounding him. Mattingly and Cosgrove returned fire into the hallway in the general direction of where they believed the shooter was. When the smoke cleared, Walker was unharmed but Taylor had been struck six times. FBI ballistics experts eventually determined that Cosgrove fired the fatal shot."

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The facts are they entered her house and a gun fight started. Of the dozen of neighbors interviewed one said he heard the police yell bf busting the door down. Why were they entering her house? Her ex boyfriend didn't live there. The police claimed in the app. for the warrant that the ex boyfriend left her apartment about two months before with a USPS package so they assumed it was drugs. The cop then said they verified with the USPS that the ex boyfriend had been receiving packages at Taylor's house - the USPS said that is not true. I believe the new boyfriend called 911 and said someone is invading my house. Her death is the fault of crappy police work.

The bigger problem is that hardly any police are ever prosecuted. If some where then people would have more confidence that justice was being carried out.

You left out some facts, and by a stunning coincidence, those omissions serve your narrative.

The cops announced themselves before entering (according to neighbors who heard them), and the guy in the apartment shot first. Even he says he shot first.

Did THOSE cops who entered, are they the ones who got the warrant?

She died because the guy she was with, shot first. Maybe he didn 't hear them identify themselves, which compounds the tragedy.

Paul, I'll ask you, where is the evidence that race played any role?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You left out some facts, and by a stunning coincidence, those omissions serve your narrative.

The cops announced themselves before entering (according to neighbors who heard them)As I said, 1 neighbor said he heard the cops and most of about a dozen said they didn't hear anything, and the guy in the apartment shot first. Even he says he shot first. BC he thought they were being invaded and he called 911 and said they were being invaded.
Did THOSE cops who entered, are they the ones who got the warrant?What difference would that make.

She died because the guy she was with, shot first[COLOR="red"BBC he thought they were being invaded as they were doing nothing wrong[/COLOR]. Maybe he didn 't hear them identify themselves, which compounds the tragedy.

Paul, I'll ask you, where is the evidence that race played any role?

Blacks feel that this happens disproportionally to Blacks and the cops are never prosecuted