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11-08-2019, 06:42 AM
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you are on the wrong side of history pete...
it's not going well for the democrats corrupt, collusive scam....
Oops! Adam Schiff’s star witness may have lied under oath -- not a good look for public testimony slated next week in the "impeachment inquiry." Last night, Tucker Carlson revealed that his show had received exclusive access to an email from the personal account of former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch that contradicts testimony she offered under oath. The fired former ambassador who disagrees with Trump administration policy is a key witness for Adam Schiff’s impeachment efforts.
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11-08-2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you are on the wrong side of history pete...
it's not going well for the democrats corrupt, collusive scam....
Oops! Adam Schiff’s star witness may have lied under oath -- not a good look for public testimony slated next week in the "impeachment inquiry." Last night, Tucker Carlson revealed that his show had received exclusive access to an email from the personal account of former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch that contradicts testimony she offered under oath. The fired former ambassador who disagrees with Trump administration policy is a key witness for Adam Schiff’s impeachment efforts.
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Sure looks like she lied under oath about contacting the democrats. Again, that doesn't necessarily mean that her testimony is false, but it's one more suspicious event in a growing pile. |
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11-08-2019, 07:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
you are on the wrong side of history pete...
it's not going well for the democrats corrupt, collusive scam....
Oops! Adam Schiff’s star witness may have lied under oath -- not a good look for public testimony slated next week in the "impeachment inquiry." Last night, Tucker Carlson revealed that his show had received exclusive access to an email from the personal account of former Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch that contradicts testimony she offered under oath. The fired former ambassador who disagrees with Trump administration policy is a key witness for Adam Schiff’s impeachment efforts.
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11-08-2019, 07:39 AM
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It wasn’t a “shadow foreign policy”: It was a use & abuse of access to foreign leaders, official acts & public officials, for personal political gain. That’s not conducting US foreign policy, that’s corruptly executing a political strategy for a candidate.
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11-08-2019, 07:41 AM
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also heard she was dating hunter biden...
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11-08-2019, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
It wasn’t a “shadow foreign policy”: It was a use & abuse of access to foreign leaders, official acts & public officials, for personal political gain. That’s not conducting US foreign policy, that’s corruptly executing a political strategy for a candidate.
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trump was seeking the truth which is a real problem for these corrupt democrats and deep state hacks |
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11-08-2019, 08:00 AM
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Didn’t say he hasn’t done some good as he should as president, but that specific “charitable” organization was a sham and now he has to pay the price.
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11-08-2019, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Didn’t say he hasn’t done some good as he should as president, but that specific “charitable” organization was a sham and now he has to pay the price.
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he should get don junior a no-show job with burisma to raise the money to pay the fine |
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11-08-2019, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
he should get don junior a no-show job with burisma to raise the money to pay the fine
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Boy you guys are stuck solidly in the way back machine, it's a constant stream of whataboutism. |
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11-08-2019, 08:18 AM
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There is way more credible evidence that Rep. Gym Jordan covered up a sexual abuse scandal at Ohio State than there is evidence Joe Biden did anything wrong related to Ukraine.
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11-08-2019, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
There is way more credible evidence that Rep. Gym Jordan covered up a sexual abuse scandal at Ohio State than there is evidence Joe Biden did anything wrong related to Ukraine.
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so whataboutism is ok when you do
it, but not when anyone else does it?
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11-08-2019, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so whataboutism is ok when you do
it, but not when anyone else does it?
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Sure,
(1) EXTORTING Ukraine: “No defense aid unless you smear Biden & clear Putin re 2016”
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(2) soliciting a BRIBE from Ukraine: “If you help me win 2020, I’ll help you defend your country against Russia.” |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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11-08-2019, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Sure,
(1) EXTORTING Ukraine: “No defense aid unless you smear Biden & clear Putin re 2016”
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(2) soliciting a BRIBE from Ukraine: “If you help me win 2020, I’ll help you defend your country against Russia.”
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biden didn’t extort Ukraine?
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11-08-2019, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
biden didn’t extort Ukraine?
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He did,but two wrongs don’t make a right.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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11-08-2019, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
biden didn’t extort Ukraine?
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No, extortion is a crime Jim.
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11-08-2019, 09:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Sure,
(1) EXTORTING Ukraine: “No defense aid unless you smear Biden & clear Putin re 2016”
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(2) soliciting a BRIBE from Ukraine: “If you help me win 2020, I’ll help you defend your country against Russia.”
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now you sound exactly like that idiot schiff |
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11-08-2019, 09:28 AM
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Lunch is served
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11-08-2019, 03:47 PM
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Pete, you said Bidens quid pro quo was OK because he had the state departments permission. I asked if Trump was held to the same standard.
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11-08-2019, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Pete, you said Bidens quid pro quo was OK because he had the state departments permission. I asked if Trump was held to the same standard.
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and i said
if the State Department, Giuliani, Mulvaney, Perry, had information that could clear Trump - that was helpful to Trump - they would be banging on the Congressional hearing room door demanding to testify.
Hear any banging????????????
Anyone other than Trumplicans saying it is ok |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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11-08-2019, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
and i said
if the State Department, Giuliani, Mulvaney, Perry, had information that could clear Trump - that was helpful to Trump - they would be banging on the Congressional hearing room door demanding to testify.
Hear any banging????????????
Anyone other than Trumplicans saying it is ok
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You're assuming he has been proven to be guilty. If that were so, using your flawed process of deduction, the inquiry would be over. |
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11-08-2019, 04:40 PM
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State dept quid pro quo goes like this happens all the Time at the direction of the secretary of state (its called policy)
Country A if you want US assistance you need to do A) improve human rights B) follow the rule of law C) allow inspectors in then we'll give you assistance
Trumps quid pro quo goes like this tells his personal lawyer to tell country A (ukraine) if you want the assistance that congress has already approved for you .. you need to
A) investegate the bidens (His political rival) B) announce it publicly your investigating them for corruption (with no evidence provided or required ) then we'll give you the assistance congress already approved ...
if you can not fundamentally see a difference ..your in the Trump Cult  |
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11-08-2019, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
State dept quid pro quo goes like this happens all the Time at the direction of the secretary of state (its called policy)
Country A if you want US assistance you need to do A) improve human rights B) follow the rule of law C) allow inspectors in then we'll give you assistance
Trumps quid pro quo goes like this tells his personal lawyer to tell country A (ukraine) if you want the assistance that congress has already approved for you .. you need to
A) investegate the bidens (His political rival) B) announce it publicly your investigating them for corruption (with no evidence provided or required ) then we'll give you the assistance congress already approved ...
if you can not fundamentally see a difference ..your in the Trump Cult |
The merry-go-round continues, why anyone spends so much energy in a debate with one side who can’t or won’t see the difference is just fruitless. You can post evidence, quotes from the depositions, video from White House staff and they will not budge, but have fun with it.
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11-08-2019, 09:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
State dept quid pro quo goes like this happens all the Time at the direction of the secretary of state (its called policy)
Country A if you want US assistance you need to do A) improve human rights B) follow the rule of law C) allow inspectors in then we'll give you assistance
Trumps quid pro quo goes like this tells his personal lawyer to tell country A (ukraine) if you want the assistance that congress has already approved for you .. you need to
A) investegate the bidens (His political rival) B) announce it publicly your investigating them for corruption (with no evidence provided or required ) then we'll give you the assistance congress already approved ...
if you can not fundamentally see a difference ..your in the Trump Cult |
This interpretation of what you envision as standard policy is far from accurate.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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11-08-2019, 09:31 PM
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Bad day at work😜SD, you seem angry, someone needs a hug. You of all people shouldn’t be using the discussion argument. Here is your typical discussion, best president of my lifetime, four more years, snowflakes, I’m not sure I’ve ever seen you have an in depth discussion.
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11-08-2019, 09:48 PM
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This is my work. I guess you just had a good day at being stupid.
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11-08-2019, 09:48 PM
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So let's get this straight.
Trumplicans are arguing that all people willing to testify under oath are lying, and all people unwilling to testify under oath are telling the truth.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how #^&#^&#^&#^&ING STUPID Trumplicans are.
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11-08-2019, 09:58 PM
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President Donald Trump slammed Hillary Clinton staffers who requested immunity or invoked their Fifth Amendment rights in response to requests to testify about the former secretary of state's private email server.
"If you are not guilty of a crime, what do you need immunity for?" Trump said
Yet He directs his people to ingnore congressional subpoenas....
Lol
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11-08-2019, 11:51 PM
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You just made my point, but I really should not have to dumb it down for a grown man. Feel free to think when you are inclined to do so.
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11-09-2019, 03:59 AM
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Trump whined and screamed that the case against him and his foundation was partisan and the he would never settle because he did nothing wrong.
He settled AND he admitted liability.
With that in mind, look at the way Trump is behaving with the impeachment inquiry.
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