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08-09-2019, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
that last word is where you fail to understand.
A cannon would do also but doesn't make much sense.
Determined thieves are sometimes hard to chase away or kill with 6 shots when you are outnumbered.
It's a God given right, not a question of necessary
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Cannons are hard to maneuver and do a number on wood floors.
If having an assault weapon is a god given right why stop there? More firepower the better. |
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08-09-2019, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Cannons are hard to maneuver and do a number on wood floors.
If having an assault weapon is a god given right why stop there? More firepower the better.
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Not many cannon in the neighborhood to worry about, there are people with illegal guns, however. It is necessary to have something approaching necessary levels of home defense that might be brought against you and yours.
The right is for self defense with something you feel reasonable and legal, not what someone - you for example - to decide what is acceptable.
So the problem is a small number of bad individuals per year doing horrific things. Yet you and others like you in gun control, want to blame everyone except the bad individual doing bad things. |
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08-09-2019, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
The right is for self defense with something you feel reasonable and legal, not what someone - you for example - to decide what is acceptable.
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But the people make the laws. Seems like the majority of the country wants stronger gun laws including an assault weapons ban. Doesn't mean it's easy to implement but that's not an excuse for inaction. Probably would open things up for the broader discussion around gun violence, suicide etc... that the status quo is suppressing. |
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08-09-2019, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Seems like the majority of the country wants
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 .....it appears? |
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08-11-2019, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Yet you and others like you in gun control, want to blame everyone except the bad individual doing bad things.
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not exactly true, i blame
the shooters, he gun is inanimate, but plays a role
in potential body count without question.
but if we all recognize the existence of bad
people, why not talk about he pros
and cons, not just he cons,
of ideas that reduce ( not eliminate) the damage that some
of the bad people can do.
i hear the pro 2a crowd just as likely to be repeating extremist theories as the gun grabbers.
talk about limiting high capacity magazines, bump stocks, and maybe only allow
guns with fingerprint recognition in the home of someone who’s mentally ill.
those proposals will save some lives. they won’t eliminate gun violence, they won’t turn us into venezuela either.
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08-11-2019, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
talk about limiting high capacity magazines,
be specific...limit the capacity? or the number of them you can own?...what is the number?
bump stocks think this has been addressed and I can only think of one instance
and maybe only allow guns with fingerprint recognition in the home of someone who’s mentally ill.
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right so to get or own a gun the authorities have to clear everyone in your home for mental illness...that should be easy
didn't the nuts decide a while back that it was too tough to ban guns so they thought they'd just ban bullets...or at least tax them so much that nobody could afford them...should probably give that a whirl again
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08-11-2019, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
right so to get or own a gun the authorities have to clear everyone in your home for mental illness...that should be easy
didn't the nuts decide a while back that it was too tough to ban guns so they thought they'd just ban bullets...or at least tax them so much that nobody could afford them...should probably give that a whirl again
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an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific. How about we talk about it the way every person it work talks
rationally about proposals. i’m this case how many lives would have been saved in the true mass shootings, and whats the cost i. terms of
liberty, and is it worth the cost. is that so scary or crazy?
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08-11-2019, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific.
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yes it does |
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08-12-2019, 04:28 PM
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yes it does
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never heard of spitballing, eh?
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08-12-2019, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
an initial
conversation doesn’t need
to be specific. How about we talk about it the way every person it work talks
rationally about proposals. i’m this case how many lives would have been saved in the true mass shootings, and whats the cost i. terms of
liberty, and is it worth the cost. is that so scary or crazy?
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My initial conversation is not specific. I am willing to do additional background checks and mental health screening. That is my hard line.
To get specific, I need to know how how my rights will not be infringed upon by someone that believes if I want to own a gun, I am crazy. Or that I do not agree with them then I must be crazy or unwell. |
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08-12-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
My initial conversation is not specific. I am willing to do additional background checks and mental health screening. That is my hard line.
To get specific, I need to know how how my rights will not be infringed upon by someone that believes if I want to own a gun, I am crazy. Or that I do not agree with them then I must be crazy or unwell.
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i don’t think anyone is crazy for wanting to own a gun. liz warren might really believe that, and that’s a problem. but if adam lanzas mother was required to have firearms with fingerprint recognition, the town of newton CT would
be a different place.
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08-09-2019, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
If having an assault weapon is a god given right why stop there? More firepower the better.
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I agree  |
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08-09-2019, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Cannons are hard to maneuver and do a number on wood floors.
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Not true.....  |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-09-2019, 04:37 PM
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Not true..... |
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08-09-2019, 04:44 PM
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I get it honestly.... Here is my Dad back in the day.....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-09-2019, 04:54 PM
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I get it honestly.... Here is my Dad back in the day.....
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Great family piece.
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08-09-2019, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Great family piece.
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No, I don't have his loafers..... I assume that is what you meant? LOL, Jeff
These were fourth of July Shoots we would go to back in the 60's. Black powder. Sometimes get 20-25 of these together and fire at the same time. Crazy. My father had a cast one, then he had to get a brass turned. An engineer friend in town would produce a couple more every year. My sister hated it. Food, beer, kids and cannons! What could be better for these WW2 guys and gals? Good memories.
My brother has the 30" black cast cannon. I have the smaller 12ga.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-10-2019, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
I get it honestly.... Here is my Dad back in the day.....
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Did he use that to signal the start of the jart game?
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08-10-2019, 03:06 PM
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Did he use that to signal the start of the jart game?
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Yup. We had those too. Cornhole with javelins.... |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-10-2019, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Yup. We had those too. Cornhole with javelins....
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some would suggest their demise was caused by the nanny state .. others would say common sense and technology just caught up.. |
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08-10-2019, 08:17 PM
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Yup. We had those too. Cornhole with javelins....
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First throw at my brothers birthday party broke skin.
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08-11-2019, 09:17 AM
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First throw at my brothers birthday party broke skin.
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you're not supposed to try to catch them  |
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