Fox news is state run tv, right?

[PaulS]

I actually was answering emails and saw that but wasn't really paying much attention. He did complain about the gas tax and said if we need $ for highways to reverse some of the tax cuts. I haven't seen carlson that much. I've have seen chris wallace bash Trump. I agree CNN doesn't have people who bash Dems. They will put 1 righty panelist with 2 left panelists but no righty anchor.

However........the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump. You would never have cnn anchors on stage w/a Pres. They all are saying Trump was cleared of obstruction when Mueller didn't say that. Also, there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity. Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I actually was answering emails and saw that but wasn't really paying much attention. He did complain about the gas tax and said if we need $ for highways to reverse some of the tax cuts. I haven't seen carlson that much. I've have seen chris wallace bash Trump. I agree CNN doesn't have people who bash Dems. They will put 1 righty panelist with 2 left panelists but no righty anchor.

However........the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump. You would never have cnn anchors on stage w/a Pres. They all are saying Trump was cleared of obstruction when Mueller didn't say that. Also, there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity. Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.

I wasn't aiming this at you, as I've said before I disagree with you, but you're honest.

"the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump"

besides Fox & Friends and Sean Hannity, who else refuses to say anything bad about him? Megyn Kelly was enormously popular,. she hated him. Chris Wallace, Brett Baier, Tucker Carlson, and Laura Ingraham criticize Trump all the time. I think if you saw the numbers of the % of coverage that's favorable/unfavorable at Fox, CNN, MSNBC for the Obama/Trump presidencies, the bias would be obvious.

"there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity."

How could you possibly know that, if they are private?

There's more to Foxnews than Hannity and Fox and Friends. Those are two shows. Hannity is the single biggest show (for some reason?), but he is sandwiched between two hosts who bash Trump regularly.

I find myself really, really liking Tucker Carlson.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.

And CNN gave debate questions to Hilary, and suggested that those who criticize Hilary, should have been shut down by the FBI.

I have little reason to doubt that Trump coordinates with Fox. And there's no way that didn't happen with Obama and CNN/MSNBC.

[wdmso]

clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after.. the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff AOC how women hate men

who starts Criticism with Lets say Trump wants to loose in 2020
then starts rattling off what if's then goes on about the Gas Tax

Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess



then goes after romney , Amazon (using our roads ) , the immigrants money they send home or any Iphone tax
and if you live outside the coastal cities and are not rich

From the Hill ..
Trump must avoid gas tax trap Democrats are setting for him



the new American Could Proposed Gas-tax Hike Burn Down Trump’s Reelection Chances?


Tucker carlson was Throwing Trump a lifeline dont do it hint hint wink wink .. Far from the criticism its a pattern on Fox

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after.. the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff AOC how women hate men

who starts Criticism with Lets say Trump wants to loose in 2020
then starts rattling off what if's then goes on about the Gas Tax

Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess



then goes after romney , Amazon (using our roads ) , the immigrants money they send home or any Iphone tax
and if you live outside the coastal cities and are not rich

From the Hill ..
Trump must avoid gas tax trap Democrats are setting for him



the new American Could Proposed Gas-tax Hike Burn Down Trump’s Reelection Chances?


Tucker carlson was Throwing Trump a lifeline dont do it hint hint wink wink .. Far from the criticism its a pattern on Fox

"clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after"

I watched the segment. YOU are the one who seems to be ignoring that which doesn't serve your agenda...

"the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff "

YOu deny that increasing gas tax, hurts average Americans? OK, maybe that's subjective.

I note that you left out all the things Carlson said, which would make a rational person conclude that he's not a right wing nut. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for talking about cutting Medicare. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for giving so much of the tax cut benefits to the wealthy and corporations. Carlson called for big increases to taxes on capital gains and dividends.

WDMSO, how come you left out all those items that Carlson discussed?

Carlson's entire point, is that Trumps ideas in those areas are so bad, so unhealthy for the middle class, that Carlsonspeculated he was trying to lose on purpose.

Is that Carlson bowing to Trump? Or is that Carlson disemboweling Trump?

I very specifically listed the things Carlson discussed, and I included things that conservatives would agree with, and things liberals would agree with. You, very strategically, ignored all of the items Carlson articulated that are "liberal", like leaving Medicare alone and increasing capital gains and dividend taxes.

You simply cannot recognize, process, or accept...anything which doesn't make him look like a right wing nut. Your brain cannot grasp that even though he's on Foxnews, he supports some ideas that are more liberal in nature, that he supports some big ideas that you agree with.

He agrees with you on some big issues, and you can't accept that. Because in your view, conservative=bad, always, zero exceptions.

What are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you conceded that you respect that Carlson is willing to deviate from Republican ideology to call for tax hikes on capital gains and dividends? Carlson explicitly said it's not fair that wealthy people pay such a low tax rate because of capital gains and dividends. We all know you agree with him. But you can't say it.

That says a lot more about you, than it does about me or Foxnews.


"Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess "

Oh, you GUESS that was criticism of Trump? Did you watch the segment?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after"

I watched the segment. YOU are the one who seems to be ignoring that which doesn't serve your agenda...

"the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff "

YOu deny that increasing gas tax, hurts average Americans? OK, maybe that's subjective.

I note that you left out all the things Carlson said, which would make a rational person conclude that he's not a right wing nut. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for talking about cutting Medicare. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for giving so much of the tax cut benefits to the wealthy and corporations. Carlson called for big increases to taxes on capital gains and dividends.

WDMSO, how come you left out all those items that Carlson discussed?

Carlson's entire point, is that Trumps ideas in those areas are so bad, so unhealthy for the middle class, that Carlsonspeculated he was trying to lose on purpose.

Is that Carlson bowing to Trump? Or is that Carlson disemboweling Trump?

I very specifically listed the things Carlson discussed, and I included things that conservatives would agree with, and things liberals would agree with. You, very strategically, ignored all of the items Carlson articulated that are "liberal", like leaving Medicare alone and increasing capital gains and dividend taxes.

You simply cannot recognize, process, or accept...anything which doesn't make him look like a right wing nut. Your brain cannot grasp that even though he's on Foxnews, he supports some ideas that are more liberal in nature, that he supports some big ideas that you agree with.

He agrees with you on some big issues, and you can't accept that. Because in your view, conservative=bad, always, zero exceptions.

What are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you conceded that you respect that Carlson is willing to deviate from Republican ideology to call for tax hikes on capital gains and dividends? Carlson explicitly said it's not fair that wealthy people pay such a low tax rate because of capital gains and dividends. We all know you agree with him. But you can't say it.

That says a lot more about you, than it does about me or Foxnews.


"Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess "

Oh, you GUESS that was criticism of Trump? Did you watch the segment?

I watched the whole thing

since when is criticism Telling and giving advice to Trump to tax other things and not the gas tax because it affects his base and he might lose the election ... in a normal world thats called advice