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02-12-2019, 12:42 PM
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we don’t know what she was told, or what she believed. if she believed it, it’s not a lie. but when she said she never used her heritage to gain professional advantage, that is a lie
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02-12-2019, 02:34 PM
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Spence is over Nebe house
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02-12-2019, 03:22 PM
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To say she lied means you can prove she knew it wasn’t true, I don’t think there’s any evidence she intentionally made a false claim. I’ve also never seen any data that suggests she ever received any preferential treatment because of her claim. Harvard even has formally rebuked the accusation that it was even a factor in her hiring.
She’s got one hell of a resume that has zero to do with this issue.
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02-12-2019, 03:41 PM
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02-12-2019, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
To say she lied means you can prove she knew it wasn’t true, I don’t think there’s any evidence she intentionally made a false claim. I’ve also never seen any data that suggests she ever received any preferential treatment because of her claim. Harvard even has formally rebuked the accusation that it was even a factor in her hiring.
She’s got one hell of a resume that has zero to do with this issue.
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"Harvard even has formally rebuked the accusation that it was even a factor in her hiring."
Yet Harvard touted her as a minority law professor. They went out of their way to brand her as a minority, so obviously it mattered to them.
Put down the damn Kool aid and think rationally for just two seconds. |
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02-12-2019, 03:58 PM
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Stupid question, did she lie or knowingly deceive, I’d take a stupid lie made years ago, over the hundreds or thousands coming out of Trump. While I hope she doesn’t get the nomination, I don’t know if I could take another four years of Lying Cheeto.
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02-12-2019, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Stupid question, did she lie or knowingly deceive, I’d take a stupid lie made years ago, over the hundreds or thousands coming out of Trump. While I hope she doesn’t get the nomination, I don’t know if I could take another four years of Lying Cheeto.
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No one is saying she's the moral equivalent of Trump. But let's call her what she is. A disgusting, hypocritical liar.
She attacks banks for profiting from student loans, but it was OK for her to make 400k a year at Harvard.
She attacked banks for profiting from subprime mortgages, but she and her husband made money flipping houses.
She can profit this way, but no one else is allowed to. That's OK with Spence.
It wasn't a "stupid" lie, it was done for a very specific reason, and from her perspective, it worked like a charm. She got rich at Harvard. But other rich people, not her naturally, are bad.
She would get creamed by Trump.
Not only is she not a Native American, she is a descendent of an enforcer from the Trail Of Tears. This is like Himmler claiming to be a Holocaust survivor. |
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02-12-2019, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
No one is saying she's the moral equivalent of Trump. But let's call her what she is. A disgusting, hypocritical liar.
She attacks banks for profiting from student loans, but it was OK for her to make 400k a year at Harvard.
She attacked banks for profiting from subprime mortgages, but she and her husband made money flipping houses.
She can profit this way, but no one else is allowed to. That's OK with Spence.
It wasn't a "stupid" lie, it was done for a very specific reason, and from her perspective, it worked like a charm. She got rich at Harvard. But other rich people, not her naturally, are bad.
She would get creamed by Trump.
Not only is she not a Native American, she is a descendent of an enforcer from the Trail Of Tears. This is like Himmler claiming to be a Holocaust survivor.
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I’m not so sure about that. She’ll get creamed in the primaries
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02-12-2019, 05:28 PM
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I’m not so sure about that. She’ll get creamed in the primaries
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We'll see about the primaries.
The senator from MN, Kloubachar, seems like a fairly serious, fairly moderate, person. That's what they need. |
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02-13-2019, 09:17 AM
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WARREN-DOLEZAL 2020
the first Native American(identifies) African American(identifies) ticket in American history...breaking lots of barriers there!
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02-13-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
We'll see about the primaries.
The senator from MN, Kloubachar, seems like a fairly serious, fairly moderate, person. That's what they need.
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yeah....she's not sounding like she fits in to the "party of love" too well |
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02-12-2019, 04:04 PM
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This is just low hanging fruit for the challenged.
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02-12-2019, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebe
This is just low hanging fruit for the challenged.
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I can spell "lying"  |
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02-12-2019, 04:08 PM
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I can spell "lying" |
So can eye. Dam spel chek
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02-12-2019, 04:20 PM
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So can eye. Dam spel chek
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so you spelled it correctly and spell check changed it to a word that does not exist? or you spelled it incorrectly and spell check didn't notify you or try to change it to a word that does exist? |
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02-12-2019, 04:23 PM
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Damn auto fill
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02-12-2019, 04:33 PM
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Damn auto fill
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you are starting to sound challenged  |
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02-12-2019, 04:36 PM
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Yes. My life is a complete failure
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02-13-2019, 11:31 AM
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Why do you claim they hate Jews?
Perhaps they too are concerned about the actions of the Israeli government?
Some think that Israel has ghettoized the Palestinians, whose land they took.
But any authoritarian government seems to be OK with you.
Israel's violent rule increasingly driving liberal American Jews on to the streets
At odds with established Jewish organizations, many younger groups are rejecting the notion of being progressive except for Palestine.
The massacre by Israeli soldiers of dozens of Palestinians in Gaza this week has prompted a new round of protests by progressive Jewish-American groups who object to the relocation of the US embassy to Jerusalem – and who lump the Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu administrations together as enemies of peace in the region.
Groups such as IfNotNow, Jewish Voice for Peace, J Street, Jews for Racial and Economic Justice and others began to step up protest activity – marches, vigils and community meet-ups – in late March, when Israeli forces killed 17 Palestinians and wounded at least 1,400 in Gaza.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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02-13-2019, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Why do you claim they hate Jews?
Perhaps they too are concerned about the actions of the Israeli government?
Some think that Israel has ghettoized the Palestinians, whose land they took.
But any authoritarian government seems to be OK with you.
Israel's violent rule increasingly driving liberal American Jews on to the streets
At odds with established Jewish organizations, many younger groups are rejecting the notion of being progressive except for Palestine.
The massacre by Israeli soldiers of dozens of Palestinians in Gaza this week has prompted a new round of protests by progressive Jewish-American groups who object to the relocation of the US embassy to Jerusalem – and who lump the Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu administrations together as enemies of peace in the region.
Groups such as IfNotNow, Jewish Voice for Peace, J Street, Jews for Racial and Economic Justice and others began to step up protest activity – marches, vigils and community meet-ups – in late March, when Israeli forces killed 17 Palestinians and wounded at least 1,400 in Gaza.
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"Why do you claim they hate Jews?"
who is this "they", that you claim, I said hate Jews? I was talking about one Muslim congresswoman, who hates Jews. She obviously hates Jews. Here is a famous tweet of hers, which she stands by...
"Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” "
She says Israel is evil, and she hopes that Allah of all people, inspires us all to see that. She views her religion, Islam, as a vehicle to arrive at a dislike for the evil Israel. And now she's writing federal laws. Hooray!!!
I claim she hates Jews. I claim that anyone who denies that, is bonkers.
"any authoritarian government seems to be OK with you"
Boy do you have me pegged. You are very bright...
"The massacre by Israeli soldiers of dozens of Palestinians "
Oh, it was a massacre? The Israeli soldiers say the Palestinians were throwing explosives and rocks at them. I wasn't there. Neither were you. But you know who you believe... |
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02-13-2019, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Have you seen ANYTHING from the mouth of the democrat Muslim congresswoman from MN? Can't remember her name. Look up her opinions of Jews. She also said explicitly that she wants to de-fund Homeland Security, and she pled for lenience for Americans who joined ISIS.
Alexandra Cortez is hugely, hugely entertaining. This woman is deranged. She makes Alan Greyson look grounded and thoughtful. And she hates Jews.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Why do you claim they hate Jews?"
who is this "they", that you claim, I said hate Jews? I was talking about one Muslim congresswoman, who hates Jews. She obviously hates Jews. Here is a famous tweet of hers, which she stands by...
"Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” "
She says Israel is evil, and she hopes that Allah of all people, inspires us all to see that. She views her religion, Islam, as a vehicle to arrive at a dislike for the evil Israel. And now she's writing federal laws. Hooray!!!
I claim she hates Jews. I claim that anyone who denies that, is bonkers.
"any authoritarian government seems to be OK with you"
Boy do you have me pegged. You are very bright...
"The massacre by Israeli soldiers of dozens of Palestinians "
Oh, it was a massacre? The Israeli soldiers say the Palestinians were throwing explosives and rocks at them. I wasn't there. Neither were you. But you know who you believe...
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Neither of them hate Jews, you as usual are misinformed by right wing media attempting to portray them as evil.
They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians.
Read the tweet you cite "evil doings" does not mean Israel is inherently evil, unless you are bonkers.
I assume you know very little about Palestine and Israel other than the rhetoric of the US political machine.
Here is a site that is concerned about the Palestinians, as is much of the world outside the US.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/isra...-conflict-101/ |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-13-2019, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Neither of them hate Jews, you as usual are misinformed by right wing media attempting to portray them as evil.
They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians.
Read the tweet you cite "evil doings" does not mean Israel is inherently evil, unless you are bonkers.
I assume you know very little about Palestine and Israel other than the rhetoric of the US political machine.
Here is a site that is concerned about the Palestinians, as is much of the world outside the US.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/isra...-conflict-101/ |
Read the tweet I posted. She has admitted to the tweet and didn't take it down. How is that misinformed? Please be specific?
You said the 17 Palestinians killed were a "massacre". Israel says it was self defense. ANy chance you are misinformed?
"They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians. "
Me too. Do they have any concerns at all, about how some Palestinians treat Israelis?
This kook also wants to defund all of Homeland Security, and asked for leniency for Americans who got caught joining ISIS. And she wants Allah to show all of us the true nature of Israel.
That's super. |
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02-13-2019, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Read the tweet I posted. She has admitted to the tweet and didn't take it down. How is that misinformed? Please be specific?
I find nothing to indicate that she has done anything wrong, specifically. Perhaps if she had tweeted “ I pray to God that the rest of the world sees the evil that Iran inflicts on the Middle East you would have acclaimed her
You said the 17 Palestinians killed were a "massacre". Israel says it was self defense. ANy chance you are misinformed?
None, Israel is practicing genocide on the Palestinians.
What they have done to Palestine is unacceptable
"They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians. "
Me too. Do they have any concerns at all, about how some Palestinians treat Israelis?
What would you do if Massachusetts invaded Connecticut and drove its inhabitants to Hartford, cut off their power, sewer and water and stopped trade and communications.
This kook also wants to defund all of Homeland Security, and asked for leniency for Americans who got caught joining ISIS. And she wants Allah to show all of us the true nature of Israel.
That's super.
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She wants to defund ICE which has been given unconstitutional powers.
Just as I said you accept news as presented and don’t question
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02-13-2019, 09:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Neither of them hate Jews, you as usual are misinformed by right wing media attempting to portray them as evil.
They have concerns about the actions of Israel oppressing the Palestinians.
Read the tweet you cite "evil doings" does not mean Israel is inherently evil, unless you are bonkers.
I assume you know very little about Palestine and Israel other than the rhetoric of the US political machine.
Here is a site that is concerned about the Palestinians, as is much of the world outside the US.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/isra...-conflict-101/ |
PeteF.,surely you are aware that her coworkers have openly expressed their displeasure with her ANTI-JEWISH rhetoric. Their words,not mine.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-13-2019, 10:52 PM
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PeteF.,surely you are aware that her coworkers have openly expressed their displeasure with her ANTI-JEWISH rhetoric. Their words,not mine.
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Other politicians?
She apologized for her use of the trope, more than others have done.
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02-13-2019, 07:24 PM
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02-13-2019, 07:34 PM
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That’s just a tad bit misconstrued.
But as usual you fell for it.
Ever the authoritarian, you would surrender all your rights for a promise of safety.
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02-13-2019, 08:29 PM
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That’s just a tad bit misconstrued.
But as usual you fell for it.
Ever the authoritarian, you would surrender all your rights for a promise of safety.
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what did she say? not $1 for DHS.
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02-13-2019, 08:23 PM
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congresswoman Omar, is
now going after weightlifting competitions, she is saying that biological males have no advantage in weightlifting over biological
females ( this from
the party of science). she is completely insane. Cortez is stupid
but amusing. Omar is dangerous and completely deranged. and she is a jew hating bigot. and she’s in congress.
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02-13-2019, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
congresswoman Omar, is
now going after weightlifting competitions, she is saying that biological males have no advantage in weightlifting over biological
females ( this from
the party of science). she is completely insane. Cortez is stupid
but amusing. Omar is dangerous and completely deranged. and she is a jew hating bigot. and she’s in congress.
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Not quite as bad as the President
https://youtu.be/r7LRXPnGkPY
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