Promises made.......

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wow, zero scandals...making fun of special olympians, using the irs as a weapon against conservatives, benghazi, fast & furious. trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump. but your side is still holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.
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the us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers. but that wasn’t a scandal, no sir.

This is the problem, you’re completely dillusional. Apples and bricks are the same. Good lord.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

This is the problem, you’re completely dillusional. Apples and bricks are the same. Good lord.
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well i’m shocked. i kicked your azz, and instead
admitting there’s hypocrisy, you lob insults.

any chance you can ever try to support you insults? i asked nebe and pete multiple
times why i’m a fascist, they won’t answer.

i support what i say soence. when i call you a glaring, obvious, naked hypocrite, i point to very specific examples. your response is to say i’m delusional, with zero evidence.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wow, zero scandals...making fun of special olympians, using the irs as a weapon against conservatives, benghazi, fast & furious. trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump. but your side is still holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.
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the us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers. but that wasn’t a scandal, no sir.

Benghazi was a manufactured scandal by the right... Niger four American soldiers lost their lives — (no outrage from the right)


making fun of special olympians

Obama Apologizes for Calling His Bad Bowling 'Like the Special Olympics' (in the context of a bad joke )

Donald Trump’s Worst Mocking Disabled Reporter
Trump insisted, “I didn’t know what he looked like. I didn’t know he was disabled."Trump has denied that he meant to mock the reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints.

context used his name failing about attacking the article with a name
some apology


using the irs as a weapon against conservatives

But the russian investigation is a witch hunt??/


us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers.
funny 2006- 2011 was only an issue with Obama ?

unwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5]

trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

mandating health-insurance policies should cover birth-control services for women, really that's your attack christians and catholics...


holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.

thats clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. your past posts and present are a clear window in to that world ...he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity


let me be clear even a good economy isn't enough,, there is nothing good Trump could do besides resign from office that could make up for the damage he has inflicted on the Nation our world standing our institutions our environment and the office of the POTUS will take decades to get the trust back if ever

the above is not imaginary its based on Trumps words and actions ..

[scottw]

the chasm is deep.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

the chasm is deep.....

deep and deranged.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Benghazi was a manufactured scandal by the right... Niger four American soldiers lost their lives — (no outrage from the right)


making fun of special olympians

Obama Apologizes for Calling His Bad Bowling 'Like the Special Olympics' (in the context of a bad joke )

Donald Trump’s Worst Mocking Disabled Reporter
Trump insisted, “I didn’t know what he looked like. I didn’t know he was disabled."Trump has denied that he meant to mock the reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints.

context used his name failing about attacking the article with a name
some apology


using the irs as a weapon against conservatives

But the russian investigation is a witch hunt??/


us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers.
funny 2006- 2011 was only an issue with Obama ?

unwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5]

trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

mandating health-insurance policies should cover birth-control services for women, really that's your attack christians and catholics...


holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.

thats clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. your past posts and present are a clear window in to that world ...he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity


let me be clear even a good economy isn't enough,, there is nothing good Trump could do besides resign from office that could make up for the damage he has inflicted on the Nation our world standing our institutions our environment and the office of the POTUS will take decades to get the trust back if ever

the above is not imaginary its based on Trumps words and actions ..

It is actually pretty funny how we look at things depending on where we stand politically. While there are some folks who say we can not recover from Trump and the impact his actions have upon our standing in the world,there are just as many that felt the same way about Obama and some of the foolishness that the country endured under his leadership. If nothing else,Trump has effectively demonstrated that stupid decisions and policies are easy to reverse. Some of these incessantly whining liberals have to learn to just shut up and roll with these changes while gaining an understanding that we get the government we deserve. As long as we have guys like Wayne,whose daily mission is to wake up and literally cry because he is butt hurt, then we will be reminded as to why and how we got here.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It is actually pretty funny how we look at things depending on where we stand politically. While there are some folks who say we can not recover from Trump and the impact his actions have upon our standing in the world,there are just as many that felt the same way about Obama and some of the foolishness that the country endured under his leadership. If nothing else,Trump has effectively demonstrated that stupid decisions and policies are easy to reverse. Some of these incessantly whining liberals have to learn to just shut up and roll with these changes while gaining an understanding that we get the government we deserve. As long as we have guys like Wayne,whose daily mission is to wake up and literally cry because he is butt hurt, then we will be reminded as to why and how we got here.
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yep many felt that way about obama for very different reasons .. No we the government we deserve when individuals like yourself would rather throw stuff from the peanut gallery. and see no evil speak no evil hear no evil .. then actually pay attention

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Benghazi was a manufactured scandal by the right... Niger four American soldiers lost their lives — (no outrage from the right)


making fun of special olympians

Obama Apologizes for Calling His Bad Bowling 'Like the Special Olympics' (in the context of a bad joke )

Donald Trump’s Worst Mocking Disabled Reporter
Trump insisted, “I didn’t know what he looked like. I didn’t know he was disabled."Trump has denied that he meant to mock the reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints.

context used his name failing about attacking the article with a name
some apology


using the irs as a weapon against conservatives

But the russian investigation is a witch hunt??/


us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers.
funny 2006- 2011 was only an issue with Obama ?

unwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5]

trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

mandating health-insurance policies should cover birth-control services for women, really that's your attack christians and catholics...


holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.

thats clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. your past posts and present are a clear window in to that world ...he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity


let me be clear even a good economy isn't enough,, there is nothing good Trump could do besides resign from office that could make up for the damage he has inflicted on the Nation our world standing our institutions our environment and the office of the POTUS will take decades to get the trust back if ever

the above is not imaginary its based on Trumps words and actions ..

benghazi- other western nations and the red cross had pulled out, they saw the danger. Stephens has asked
multiple times for security which was denied. The fight lasted 13 hours and no help came. then the administration repeatedly blamed an american citizen for making a video.

which of those points did i manufacture?

why do you claim i said the russianinvestigation is a witch hunt? can you read? seriously, do you know how to read? i’ve said many times that there should be an investigation, and if he did anything wrong he should face it. is that going too fast for you? does that sound like i’m painting the investigation as a witch hunt?

Oh, obama apologizes for making fun of special olympians, which to you, meansnit never happened? so a scandal isn’t a scandal if the person apologized? wdmso, that makes all kinds of sense

on obamacare and christianity, you shouldnget some facts. the supreme court ruled that obamacare trampled on the religious beliefs of christians. these business owners were willing to provide birth control when there’s a legitimate health need ( many women have real health needs for the pill), they did not want to be forced to provide pills that are designed to be abortion-producing. the court, not me, said it was unconstitutional.

what damage has trump done, which can only be fixed by resigning? please benspecific...sires he’s a morally bankrupt reptile, so was bill clinton. just because you really reallly dislike him? i really really disliked obama, but i gave him credit when it was due, and i counted the days. i didn’t surrender my sanity like you guys.

i have no issue with the trump scandals you listed, though i don’t know why they are pertinent. i admit trump had many scandals. the point i was making, was a response to someone who said that obama had no scandals. clearly he did, and you cannot refute that by pointing to someone else’s scandals.

you say it’s not a scandal if one apologizes. unreal.

i listed obamas scandals to show his term was not scandal free, and you can’t help but go on an anti trump diatribe. you’re completely obsessed. two more years probably, hang in there.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Benghazi was a manufactured scandal by the right... Niger four American soldiers lost their lives — (no outrage from the right)


making fun of special olympians

Obama Apologizes for Calling His Bad Bowling 'Like the Special Olympics' (in the context of a bad joke )

Donald Trump’s Worst Mocking Disabled Reporter
Trump insisted, “I didn’t know what he looked like. I didn’t know he was disabled."Trump has denied that he meant to mock the reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints.

context used his name failing about attacking the article with a name
some apology


using the irs as a weapon against conservatives

But the russian investigation is a witch hunt??/


us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers.
funny 2006- 2011 was only an issue with Obama ?

unwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5]

trampling on the rights of christians and catholics...

mandating health-insurance policies should cover birth-control services for women, really that's your attack christians and catholics...


holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to.

thats clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. your past posts and present are a clear window in to that world ...he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity


let me be clear even a good economy isn't enough,, there is nothing good Trump could do besides resign from office that could make up for the damage he has inflicted on the Nation our world standing our institutions our environment and the office of the POTUS will take decades to get the trust back if ever

the above is not imaginary its based on Trumps words and actions ..

"he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity "

What does equal objectivity, is my well-established pattern of saying good and bad things about both Trump and Obama, and usually not always) supporting my statements with actual events and results.

"clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. "

We would all just love to see you explain that a bit further. I am frequently critical of Trump, deeply critical. But I'm rational when I do it, that's the difference between us. You and your fellow world travelers here, you cannot handle criticism of Obama, and you cannot handle praise of Trump. It's literally more than you can process.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity "


I hold them to the same standards Trump has no standards hence


What does equal objectivity, is my well-established pattern of saying good and bad things about both Trump and Obama, and usually not always) supporting my statements with actual events and results.



"clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. "

We would all just love to see you explain that a bit further. I am frequently critical of Trump, deeply critical. But I'm rational when I do it, that's the difference between us. You and your fellow world travelers here, you cannot handle criticism of Obama, and you cannot handle praise of Trump. It's literally more than you can process.

I hold them to the same standards Trump has no standards .. but again you see similarities in their behaviors.. when they are not even comparable

Finding praise in Trumps is like convincing yourself that even pedophiles deserve praise for anything seen as positive . not involving the original crime

He is beyond salvation he already dug his hole with his own hands and lips and he’s got 2 more years of digging
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[wdmso]

Jim here’s a hypothetical
Since the election take every news story the Russian investigation all the guilty pleas the lies and even his tax returns stormy and replace Trump with Obama. In his 1st year in office ... I highly doubt your responses would even be what they are now.... but my response wouldn’t change Because it’s not about the man it never has been
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim here’s a hypothetical
Since the election take every news story the Russian investigation all the guilty pleas the lies and even his tax returns stormy and replace Trump with Obama. In his 1st year in office ... I highly doubt your responses would even be what they are now.... but my response wouldn’t change Because it’s not about the man it never has been
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Your assuming a whole lot without any basis for your assumptions.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim here’s a hypothetical
Since the election take every news story the Russian investigation all the guilty pleas the lies and even his tax returns stormy and replace Trump with Obama. In his 1st year in office ... I highly doubt your responses would even be what they are now.... but my response wouldn’t change Because it’s not about the man it never has been
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i think it’s clear that i praise them both when they do good, and criticize both when they deserve it.

trump is as irredeemable as a pedophile? seriously? wow.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i think it’s clear that i praise them both when they do good, and criticize both when they deserve it.

trump is as irredeemable as a pedophile? seriously? wow.
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no just an extreme example.. but if was you would praise him if he gave you what you want.. that's all

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

no just an extreme example.. but if was you would praise him if he gave you what you want.. that's all

I would praise him if he helped the country, and call for his execution is he was a pedophile.

Since you think it's wrong to praise Trump when he helps people, can I ask what you are doing with your extra take-home py thanks to his tax cuts? I hope you're not using it or enjoying it, because based on your own logic, that's evil money. Can we all assume you're burning it?

I bought a camper with my extra take-home pay. My family spent 31 nights in that thing this year, and every one of them was magical. And it would likely not have happened if not for Trump and the GOP.

I can be thankful for that, and still bash him for being the morally bankrupt reptile that he is.

We COULD have had a nice guy with the same beliefs, but your side told everyone that McCain was a senile old racist, and that Romney was a heartless plutocrat who hates women. So please tell us, exactly when did the democrats decide they wanted a GOP candidate who had integrity? Because they were merciless with McCain and Romney.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I would praise him if he helped the country, and call for his execution is he was a pedophile.

Since you think it's wrong to praise Trump when he helps people, can I ask what you are doing with your extra take-home py thanks to his tax cuts? I hope you're not using it or enjoying it, because based on your own logic, that's evil money. Can we all assume you're burning it?

I bought a camper with my extra take-home pay. My family spent 31 nights in that thing this year, and every one of them was magical. And it would likely not have happened if not for Trump and the GOP.I know you have bragged here that you have an extra $200 per paycheck bc of Trump. I don't think you know very many here but most are blue collar and don't make what you do and aren't seeing that much in their paycheck. So while you got a big increase, everyone else is just seeing the deficit balloon. Remember when during the worse downturn since the great dep. the Repubs. cried bc Obama tried to stimulate the economy - fing hypocrites.

I can be thankful for that, and still bash him for being the morally bankrupt reptile that he is.

We COULD have had a nice guy with the same beliefs, but your side told everyone that McCain was a senile old racist, and that Romney was a heartless plutocrat who hates women. Romney basically said he would never care about 47% of the country. How many times do we have to remind you of that? Look at the classless, lying thing the Repubs. say about Dems.So please tell us, exactly when did the democrats decide they wanted a GOP candidate who had integrity? Because they were merciless with McCain and Romney.

You constantly say the Dems. are bad yet what the Repubs do is far worse. Saying the Dems. hate the country, treasonous, etc.

[Jim in CT]

Paul, also note that the majority of
my $200/month savings did not come from lower rates in my income bracket. i benefitted primarily from the significant expansion of child tax credits, and i have three dependent children. Maybe all of my reduction came from that?
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[PaulS]

I have no idea. Not sure I benefit at all or how much until I do my taxes. Prop. taxes are very, very high where I live. No more mortgage deduction. We'll see.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I have no idea. Not sure I benefit at all or how much until I do my taxes. Prop. taxes are very, very high where I live. No more mortgage deduction. We'll see.

i do know that most of
my benefit was from child tax credits. any benefit i got from lower income tax rates, was likely offset by limiting my ability to deduct the massive state/local taxes i enjoy in CT.

why no more mortgage deduction for you?
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[PaulS]

Firstly, the tax decrease occured the same paycheck I got my work raise so I haven't really tried to figure out the impact of the 2.

I had a 20 year mortgage and paid it off a little early. I am extremely fortunate in never ever having to pay any interest other than mortgage interest.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Firstly, the tax decrease occured the same paycheck I got my work raise so I haven't really tried to figure out the impact of the 2.

I had a 20 year mortgage and paid it off a little early. I am extremely fortunate in never ever having to pay any interest other than mortgage interest.

i’d call that smart and fortunate. congratulations! One heck of an accomplishment, one heck of a milestone.
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[wdmso]

how our cousins see Trump..


Sitting up here in Canada I am amazed how good this guy is.
You have the best health care ever......all those coal miners are back to work......the wall Mexico is paying for is marvelous.......the middle class is getting richer......the deficit is falling by leaps and bounds!!!
Best president ever and if you don't believe me ...... just ask him!!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

how our cousins see Trump..


Sitting up here in Canada I am amazed how good this guy is.
You have the best health care ever......all those coal miners are back to work......the wall Mexico is paying for is marvelous.......the middle class is getting richer......the deficit is falling by leaps and bounds!!!
Best president ever and if you don't believe me ...... just ask him!!

who gives a sh*t?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

who gives a sh*t?
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Clearly you don't .... are you suggesting anything he said was not true

[The Dad Fisherman]

Well this is How Americans see Canadians, so I'm not to worried.

https://youtu.be/ssCZWBtwUTI
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[Sea Dangles]

The guy isn’t happy unless he is throwing rocks Jim. Next thing you know he will be at the border lobbing insults at agents. Wrong party...mindless drone
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The guy isn’t happy unless he is throwing rocks Jim. Next thing you know he will be at the border lobbing insults at agents. Wrong party...mindless drone
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A complement comming from the Number 1 insult rock thrower on the site ...

A ture keyboard warrior

[Pete F.]

Objectively you repeat the standard Trumplican lie about minority unemployment every time.
The data shows that unemployment continued to fall under Trump albeit at a slightly lower rate than under Obama. I would expect that given how low it is.
It will be interesting in the next two years to see what happens as the real Trump economy shows it’s colors.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Objectively you repeat the standard Trumplican lie about minority unemployment every time.
The data shows that unemployment continued to fall under Trump albeit at a slightly lower rate than under Obama. I would expect that given how low it is.
It will be interesting in the next two years to see what happens as the real Trump economy shows it’s colors.
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oh it’s a lie that black unemployment is lower than ever?

you disprove that, by saying that black u employment started decreasing under obama. i never denied that. BUT ITS LOWER NOW, UNDER TRUMP. is that a lie, or is it true?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh it’s a lie that black unemployment is lower than ever?

you disprove that, by saying that black u employment started decreasing under obama. i never denied that. BUT ITS LOWER NOW, UNDER TRUMP. is that a lie, or is it true?
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It’s not a lie but it’s nothing as amazing as you and the rest of the Trumplicans have claimed to have a continuation of what happened to a far greater extent over the previous 6 years when Trump continually claimed the numbers were fake.
Funny that now they are not only real but worthy of braggadocio.
Pretty soon we’ll be in the Trump economy, but I’m sure any failures will be others fault.
I’ll just sit and watch you, while doing my Mike Pence imitation.
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