Human caravan

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If the big danger we face is Central Americans why doesn't Trump have a Summit with the leaders of the Central American countries?
I would expect he could also solve that in a day by just taking a meeting.

probably...he's nailed everything else...Merkel

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably...he's nailed everything else...Merkel

You're wrong, he actually skipped the Central American Summit this April. I guess it wasn't a problem until election time.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You're wrong,.

get help pete....

[wdmso]

Eduardo Nunez talks about his massive 3-run home run to help clinch a Game 1 win for Boston

its fine he jumped the line and wasn't in a caravan

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Eduardo Nunez talks about his massive 3-run home run to help clinch a Game 1 win for Boston

its fine he jumped the line and wasn't in a caravan

Instead of intentionally posting the stupidest crap you can think of Wayne,why not just do a crossword puzzle and learn how to spell? This desperation is throwing shade on your message.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Eduardo Nunez talks about his massive 3-run home run to help clinch a Game 1 win for Boston

its fine he jumped the line and wasn't in a caravan

Well he had a job and came on a work visa to come here, can you say the same about the caravan?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well he had a job and came on a work visa to come here, can you say the same about the caravan?
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So if Hispanics were not allowed to get visas to play baseball and steal jobs paying millions of dollars from Americans then Americans would be able to get better at baseball and have those jobs
Sound familiar?
That’s one argument against immigration
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So if Hispanics were not allowed to get visas to play baseball and steal jobs paying millions of dollars from Americans then Americans would be able to get better at baseball and have those jobs
Sound familiar?
That’s one argument against immigration
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No, that's an argument against illegal immigration.

Say it, I know you can. ILLEGAL Immigration
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No, that's an argument against illegal immigration.

Say it, I know you can. ILLEGAL Immigration
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But why let someone have a visa to work here legally in a job that would gladly be performed by a citizen
This person is not a citizen, but they take very good paying jobs away from Americans
If they were coming here to provide menial labor we won’t give them a visa because some Americans claim that they are taking jobs away from low income Americans but it’s acceptable if they make millions?
Why is that acceptable?
Americans don’t want or can’t do those jobs?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well he had a job and came on a work visa to come here, can you say the same about the caravan?
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hitting a baseball or picking avocados... seems not many Americans are willing to do or are very good at either ,, both are in High demand.... but we only want the ones that help our sports teams not our farmers

[Pete F.]

Church funds are interesting
You should ask, they will explain it
My wife has been a Church Treasurer for many years and not at the Church of The Ten Suggestions

[Pete F.]

Why do you think I can’t say Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
A well thought out immigration policy and help for the people outside our borders who live in countries that have horrible issues is the solution to illegal immigration
People with hope don’t leave home. They might go and work elsewhere but their goal is to be at home with their relatives and friends. Is that so different than yours?
We need to enable those countries to succeed and make it a win win situation.
Help businesses in Central America replace businesses that make things we import from the Far East could be a start
Perhaps if Trump had gone to the Central American Summit and said: Let’s work together to solve these issues that affect us both, we could move forward
Read a little history and see what put Central America where it is today
We should help
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why do you think I can’t say Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
Illegal
A well thought out immigration policy and help for the people outside our borders who live in countries that have horrible issues is the solution to illegal immigration
People with hope don’t leave home. They might go and work elsewhere but their goal is to be at home with their relatives and friends. Is that so different than yours?
We need to enable those countries to succeed and make it a win win situation.
Help businesses in Central America replace businesses that make things we import from the Far East could be a start
Perhaps if Trump had gone to the Central American Summit and said: Let’s work together to solve these issues that affect us both, we could move forward
Read a little history and see what put Central America where it is today
We should help
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So are we talking about our refugee policy, our immigration policy, or our illegal immigration policy. Because you are blurring them all together.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

So are we talking about our refugee policy, our immigration policy, or our illegal immigration policy. Because you are blurring them all together.
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They are related
Every action has an affect on other things and that’s why governing is hard.
All those policies can be as harsh as the Constitution allows and we could build a wall
People will come as long as they perceive that they have an opportunity for a better life
Someone will fill the vacuum in those countries and the Chinese are willing to assume that role in the world including Central America
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[detbuch]

No doubt some on this forum will consider this guy a crazy black nut job. But he makes some interesting analogies.

[JohnR]

Pro Legal Immigration
Against Illegal Immigration

Common denominator? Whether or not it is legal. Legal is the baseline.

You want to allow more immigrants? Stop the illegal and make the legal more efficient and less burdensome.

BTW - stop the illegal immigration and I am all OK with expanding the legal immigration.Expand the asylum seekers, and refugees. But you have to stop the illegal immigration first, and reverse those that did not come here illegally.

[detbuch]

Military readiness at the border:

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Military readiness at the border:

Seems the bomber and synagogue shooter has disrupted his message


Trump tweet

“Republicans are doing so well in early voting, and at the polls, and now this ‘Bomb’ stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows — news not talking politics. Very unfortunate, what is going on. Republicans, go out and vote!”

Trump’s allies had been speculating without evidence that the failed bombings — which exclusively targeted Trump antagonists — were actually part of a “false flag” leftist plot to make Republicans look unhinged.

US sends thousands of troops to border 1 week before the primaries
along with this new conference

This is what a false flag operation looks like this one is in plain view ^^^^^

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems the bomber and synagogue shooter has disrupted his message


Trump tweet

“Republicans are doing so well in early voting, and at the polls, and now this ‘Bomb’ stuff happens and the momentum greatly slows — news not talking politics. Very unfortunate, what is going on. Republicans, go out and vote!”

Trump’s allies had been speculating without evidence that the failed bombings — which exclusively targeted Trump antagonists — were actually part of a “false flag” leftist plot to make Republicans look unhinged.

US sends thousands of troops to border 1 week before the primaries
along with this new conference

This is what a false flag operation looks like this one is in plain view ^^^^^

The "flag" looks very real to me. What is your problem with securing the border one week before the election when it is a response to a serious problem which is occurring one week before an election. Should Trump have, without warning, waited till after the election to act?

[wdmso]

Strongest country huge military. Beacon to the free world is afraid of 3000 brown mostly women and children it’s realy Pathetic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Strongest country huge military. Beacon to the free world is afraid of 3000 brown mostly women and children it’s realy Pathetic
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fine. let them all live on your street. skin color
has nothing to do with it, but not suprising that you immediately went there, the last card of the desperate.

very easy for people who never have to see the effects of mass illegal immigration, to claim to be all for it.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Strongest country huge military. Beacon to the free world is afraid of 3000 brown mostly women and children it’s realy Pathetic
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Where do you get the idea that the caravan is mostly women and children? That alone should disqualify any idea you have about it or what we should be "afraid" of.

You selectively, purposefully, couch the issue in terms of fear and race, and that is what is "rally pathetic."

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Where do you get the idea that the caravan is mostly women and children? That alone should disqualify any idea you have about it or what we should be "afraid" of.

You selectively, purposefully, couch the issue in terms of fear and race, and that is what is "rally pathetic."

So cloaking it national security or invasion which it is not .., is more legitimate than calling it what it is brown people with no weapons mostly women and children . Trying to improve their lives ... is Causing the POTUS to deploy the military to defend our boarders your right it’s pathetic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Where do you get the idea that the caravan is mostly women and children? That alone should disqualify any idea you have about it or what we should be "afraid" of.

You selectively, purposefully, couch the issue in terms of fear and race, and that is what is "rally pathetic."

"Where do you get the idea that the caravan is mostly women and children?"

because if he frames it that way, it makes Republicans look as ugly as possible. Who cares i fit's remotely true? Why not say that they're all UNICEF orphans?

"You selectively, purposefully, couch the issue in terms of fear and race"

Of course he does. That's liberalism.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Where do you get the idea that the caravan is mostly women and children?"

because if he frames it that way, it makes Republicans look as ugly as possible. Who cares i fit's remotely true? Why not say that they're all UNICEF orphans?

"You selectively, purposefully, couch the issue in terms of fear and race"

Of course he does. That's liberalism.

Trump "Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in." no attempt at fear ok

President Donald Trump acknowledged on Tuesday that he has "no proof" for his claim that a migrant caravan approaching the U.S. southern border includes "Middle Easterners" but suggested he could eventually back up the assertion.

his lies are acceptable to you

Pressed by reporters after signing a water bill alongside lawmakers in both parties, Trump said "there's no proof of anything,"

wow your Genius POTUS says "there's no proof of anything,"


I guess all those photos of women and children are part of the liberal media to discredit Trump .. why do you hate facts so much?

[wdmso]

Do you have any idea what deployment means how it works what’s involved. I would say no... nor does. Trump he just knows how it sounds and the optics even if false looks .. the military has no teleportation ability’s I am aware of
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Do you have any idea what deployment means how it works what’s involved. I would say no... nor does. Trump he just knows how it sounds and the optics even if false looks .. the military has no teleportation ability’s I am aware of
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What does my idea of what deployment means have to do with this. The military is handling the deployment, not me nor Trump. The military representative in the video was confident about the deployment. If you have a problem with it, argue with the military command, not with me.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What does my idea of what deployment means have to do with this. The military is handling the deployment, not me nor Trump. The military representative in the video was confident about the deployment. If you have a problem with it, argue with the military command, not with me.

The military do as they are told the illusion Trump want to show he is fixing it... it will take weeks to plan move and become operational.. after nov 6th he won’t care until the next election
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[Jim in CT]

wdmso, we can’t take everybody, which means we can only take some. is it fair to make it a land rush, to only let in those who shove their way to the front of the line? what about people in africa who patiently wait yearsbfor a chance to comenlegally.

set up a set of fair rules, and abide by those rules. Why is that unfair or racist? Please explain...
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wdmso, we can’t take everybody, which means we can only take some. is it fair to make it a land rush, to only let in those who shove their way to the front of the line? what about people in africa who patiently wait yearsbfor a chance to comenlegally.

set up a set of fair rules, and abide by those rules. Why is that unfair or racist? Please explain...
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Just saying sending the military is a stunt .. I never suggested let them all in nor would I ... just another attempt to sow misinformation and more conspiracy theorists will some how chime in on how Soros or terrorist Or disease need to be stopped.. you can’t govern by fear alone but he is trying hard
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