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Old 05-09-2020, 10:48 AM   #1
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Bruce posted the rules for some reason and I said why not inforce them? I pointed out direct violations of those rules.
Please differentiate that, from tattling.
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Please differentiate that, from tattling.
For the 8th time - That is asking the question why post the rules if he is not going to inforce them?
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For the 8th time - That is asking the question why post the rules if he is not going to inforce them?
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Old 05-09-2020, 11:45 AM   #4
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For the 8th time - That is asking the question why post the rules if he is not going to inforce them?
But in your own words, that's not all you did, you also made him aware of those who were violating the rules. AKA, tattling.
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Paul, in another thread, you denied you are a tattletale, but admitted that you went to Kevn with reports of others behaving in ways you didn't like, hoping he'd exert his authority. But that's not tattling.

In this post, you again claim that every single time you insult people, it's because they did it to you first. Every single time, you deny that you are responsible for your behavior, that someone else always made you do it. But you deny playing the victim card.

I'm not sure you know what "tattletale" or "playing the victim card" mean.
Not only is he insecure. He is also lacking integrity.
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In what way?

Didn't you say I stole someone's secret spots? And I told you I haven't fished any spots that people from this site took me to so no one could truthfully say that. So why do you think it is ok to lie like that?

Rollie - That is one of the reasons I think you are a vile scummy person.
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In what way?

Didn't you say I stole someone's secret spots? And I told you I haven't fished any spots that people from this site took me to so no one could truthfully say that. So why do you think it is ok to lie like that?

Rollie - That is one of the reasons I think you are a vile scummy person.
Because I only know people from this site... keep lying
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Rollie, so what am I lying about?
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He confused me with Pete and then when I said something like I was going to post the same thing to Pete it was about trumps claiming that since the Central Park five confesed they were guilty yet he he's changing his argument with Flynn who plead guilty.

I didn't confuse you with Pete. I pointed out that you agreed (without qualification) to Pete's statement. You didn't specify which part of his statement. Any reasonable person would have assumed you agreed with his statement. Perhaps you didn't know what he meant by "he still does."

You insult so many people you don't even recognize insults anymore.

You consider what I said an insult? How was it an insult?

It also said I attempted to "twist, interpret, conjecture, insinuate, characterize what Trump said". He also said something like I accused Trump of racism. And I did none of those things.

I didn't say that you did any of that. I referred to general comments that were being made and implied (including by Pete) against Trump re the ad, didn't mention you. But if you want to take it personally, that's you're prerogative.

Nor was any of it meant as an insult. Pointing out that someone twists, interprets, conjectures, insinuates, or characterizes, is not inherently an insult. Nor did I say that you said Trump is a racist. I pointed out, correctly, that "there is this attempt to characterize it [the ad] as racist." There absolutely has been that attempt by anti-Trumpers, including Pete. Didn't mention you. The only thing I said in that paragraph that was directed at you, actually agreed with you that Trump is a sloppy talker (well put actually), but disagreed that the ad was sloppily written.


Here's an idea why don't you try acting like a grown up for a couple hours and stop with the insults and see what type of responses you get.
You might want to be less sensitive or defensive (this is not an insult), and not take personally things that are not referring directly to you. And you might want to tighten up the scope of what you consider an insult (this is not an insult).
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Face it you specifically called Democrats whores and then you have the nerve to criticize what someone else does. Hypocrisy at its finest. I feel bad for you and the anger you demonstrate on a daily basis here where you cannot go an hour without insulting people. What was so bad in your life to cause you to be like this? You've been angry on this site for years. Maybe it's time to go talk to someone. I'm sure work has an EAP
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Face it you specifically called Democrats whores and then you have the nerve to criticize what someone else does. Hypocrisy at its finest. I feel bad for you and the anger you demonstrate on a daily basis here where you cannot go an hour without insulting people. What was so bad in your life to cause you to be like this? You've been angry on this site for years. Maybe it's time to go talk to someone. I'm sure work has an EAP
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You are assuming that calling out someone for the destructive things they do, and calling someone out for a condition they are born with, are the same thing. That's the basis for your argument. It's a very weak argument.
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You are assuming that calling out someone for the destructive things they do, and calling someone out for a condition they are born with, are the same thing. That's the basis for your argument. It's a very weak argument.
No it's not they're both vile statements. So are those right-leaning States who depend on the government to transfer funds from the left-leaning states whores also? And I bet if I open up every other active thread in this forum you're arguing with somebody else
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No it's not they're both vile statements. So are those right-leaning States who depend on the government to transfer funds from the left-leaning states whores also? And I bet if I open up every other active thread in this forum you're arguing with somebody else
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Now you're moving the goalposts.

You lost me (and everyone else) at suggesting there's any moral equivalence between insulting a crooked politician, and insulting someone born with a disability. I find the air quite clean on my side of this Paul. Quite clean. I'm very comfortable embracing the idea that we avoid using hateful language that's deeply offensive to innocent people who often struggle through no fault of their own. You think it's OK to use that language to achieve your own ends. Fine.

Some people (not you), think that adults who lie and cheat, and people born with disabilities, are different.

"And I bet if I open up every other active thread in this forum you're arguing with somebody else"

And you're not. Nor is everyone else.
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You're using vile language in calling someone a whore just because you don't like someone's politics and now you trying to justify it in your mind. You never said you used it for a crooked politician you just said Democrat whores. I'm not moving the bar at all. I admit retard is vile and I used it for a specific purpose see post 60.
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You're using vile language in calling someone a whore just because you don't like someone's politics and now you trying to justify it in your mind. You never said you used it for a crooked politician you just said Democrat whores. I'm not moving the bar at all. I admit retard is vile and I used it for a specific purpose see post 60.
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"You're using vile language in calling someone a whore just because you don't like someone's politics '

I don't know that enriching yourself while taxing people into oblivion and then spending 100 billion more than the taxes will fund, is a political position. John Roland was a Republican, he is also a whore who enriched himself while screwing the people he was supposed to represent. I call them whores regardless of politics, I don't care what their position is on climate change or abortion when I call them whores.

Paul, in my opinion it's possible for an adult to act in such a way as to earn insults. Obviously you agree, which is why you have called me scummy. That's fine. I agree that sometimes people (adults) act in a way as to deserve ridicule.

I don't think that being born with a disability, means those people deserve to have hate speech thrown their way. You do. You did it, you angrily defended it multiple times.

"You never said you used it for a crooked politician you just said Democrat whores"

I said democrat whores who screw their constituents when the union says to do so. If there are any democrats opposed to bankrupting the state for their union masters (as far as I know none ever oppose the budgets or tax hikes), I would not include them.

'I admit retard is vile and I used it for a specific purpose"

The vile nature of that term is due to the pain it causes the disabled. That has nothing to do with lobbing it at Trump. Your use of that word doesn't hurt Trump, it hurts disabled people.

The democrats in our state legislature screw us for money. That makes them whores of a sort.

Trump, for all his faults, does not make fun of "retards", no matter how many times you say it.

I have called Joe Aresimowicz a whore to his face, in public. That's what he is, and even he knows it. I walked out of there and there were people thanking me. If you went to a SPecial Olympics event and said "Trump makes fun of retards", youd get the crap beat out of you, and you'd deserve it. I know one Dad, I'd pay you a lot of money to say that in front of. Enough to cover your emergency room copay.

When I say something vile, you've done something to deserve it. When you say "retard", the "retards" didn't do anything to you. All you see is your hatred of Trump, you don't see, you can't see, how hurtful that is to people who didn't do anything to you. It's every bit as bad as n*gger.
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Biden Accuser’s Lawyer Is Trump Donor With History of Representing Sexual Harassment Accusers shocking

In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade rretweeted or “liked” praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: “My old boss speaks truth. Listen.”

Reade referred to Biden as “the blue version of Trump.” Reade also pushed a Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket, while complaining that the Democratic National Committee was trying to “shove” Biden “down Democrat voters throats.”

Love of Russia and Putin. During 2017 when Reade was praising Biden, she was condemning Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s efforts to hijack American democracy in the 2016 election. This changed in November 2018, when Reade trashed the United States as a country of “hypocrisy and imperialism” and “not a democracy at all but a corporate autocracy.”

Reade’s distaste for America closely tracked her new infatuation with Russia and Putin. She referred to Putin as a “genius” with an athletic prowess that “is intoxicating to American women.” Then there’s this gem: “President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity.”

In March 2019, Reade essentially dismissed the idea of Russian interference in the 2016 American presidential election as hype. She said she loved Russia and her Russian relatives — and "like most women across the world, I like President Putin … a lot, his shirt on or shirt off.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

and the right embraces her like their own , what's not to love shes against Biden and for Putin .. and Republicans only play Fair ....
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Biden Accuser’s Lawyer Is Trump Donor With History of Representing Sexual Harassment Accusers shocking

In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade rretweeted or “liked” praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: “My old boss speaks truth. Listen.”

Reade referred to Biden as “the blue version of Trump.” Reade also pushed a Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket, while complaining that the Democratic National Committee was trying to “shove” Biden “down Democrat voters throats.”

Love of Russia and Putin. During 2017 when Reade was praising Biden, she was condemning Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s efforts to hijack American democracy in the 2016 election. This changed in November 2018, when Reade trashed the United States as a country of “hypocrisy and imperialism” and “not a democracy at all but a corporate autocracy.”

Reade’s distaste for America closely tracked her new infatuation with Russia and Putin. She referred to Putin as a “genius” with an athletic prowess that “is intoxicating to American women.” Then there’s this gem: “President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity.”

In March 2019, Reade essentially dismissed the idea of Russian interference in the 2016 American presidential election as hype. She said she loved Russia and her Russian relatives — and "like most women across the world, I like President Putin … a lot, his shirt on or shirt off.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

and the right embraces her like their own , what's not to love shes against Biden and for Putin .. and Republicans only play Fair ....
(1) Biden's accuser is a democrat who chose to work for Biden.

(2) you are surprised that she picked a lawyer with experience in this field?

'and the right embraces her like their own"

You bet we do. She will make it more likely that Biden loses.

In your recap of things people have historically said, you conveniently left out what Biden said ,during the Kavanaugh hearings, about believing women who come forward. so why is it "unfair" that we ask Biden to subject himself to the same standard that he held Brett Kavanaugh to? Please explain?
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In 2017, on multiple occasions, Reade rretweeted or “liked” praise for Biden and his work combating sexual assault. In the same year, Reade tweeted other compliments of Biden, including: “My old boss speaks truth. Listen.”

Reade referred to Biden as “the blue version of Trump.” Reade also pushed a Sanders/Elizabeth Warren ticket, while complaining that the Democratic National Committee was trying to “shove” Biden “down Democrat voters throats.”

Love of Russia and Putin. During 2017 when Reade was praising Biden, she was condemning Russian leader Vladimir Putin’s efforts to hijack American democracy in the 2016 election. This changed in November 2018, when Reade trashed the United States as a country of “hypocrisy and imperialism” and “not a democracy at all but a corporate autocracy.”

Reade’s distaste for America closely tracked her new infatuation with Russia and Putin. She referred to Putin as a “genius” with an athletic prowess that “is intoxicating to American women.” Then there’s this gem: “President Putin has an alluring combination of strength with gentleness. His sensuous image projects his love for life, the embodiment of grace while facing adversity.”

In March 2019, Reade essentially dismissed the idea of Russian interference in the 2016 American presidential election as hype. She said she loved Russia and her Russian relatives — and "like most women across the world, I like President Putin … a lot, his shirt on or shirt off.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

and the right embraces her like their own , what's not to love shes against Biden and for Putin .. and Republicans only play Fair ....
keep attacking the victim....
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She's doing a piece for the New Yorker with Farrow that will be out before the election. Everyone on the left knows this will hurt Biden and make them look like the hypocrites they are on the issue of "believe all women". It's not insurmountable of course, especially not against Trump.

Surprised Farrow is doing this, as he's also a liberal democrat who knows this will help Trump. Unless he hopes that it gets the power brokers to shove Biden aside and put Michelle Obama in there, who I don't think we'd have a prayer against.
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Michelle Obama in there, who I don't think we'd have a prayer against.

Agree, she would mop the floor with Trump, but she isn't running. Full stop.

Sleeper pick for VP is Susan Rice though......

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Agree, she would mop the floor with Trump, but she isn't running. Full stop.

Sleeper pick for VP is Susan Rice though......
Nobody is worried about Susan Rice. I hope you're right about Michelle, and I do think you're right. Man I hope so.

I'm still thinking Warren, I think it needs to be somebody the Bernie progressives can get behind.
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biden will be more fun....hang in there sleepy joe!
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biden will be more fun....hang in there sleepy joe!
I'm sure it will be Biden, unless he deteriorates to the point where he has to step aside. He's fading fast.
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She's doing a piece for the New Yorker with Farrow that will be out before the election. Everyone on the left knows this will hurt Biden and make them look like the hypocrites they are on the issue of "believe all women". It's not insurmountable of course, especially not against Trump.

Surprised Farrow is doing this, as he's also a liberal democrat who knows this will help Trump. Unless he hopes that it gets the power brokers to shove Biden aside and put Michelle Obama in there, who I don't think we'd have a prayer against.
you assume hes doing this to prove her right? What will you say when the story isn't what you've predected
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So she is working with Ronan Farrow to disprove her claim. Makes all kinds of sense.

Again, how do YOU know how it will end? Amazingly, you always know more than what's reported, and also amazingly, your additional knowledge always makes it more favorable to the left.
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So she is working with Ronan Farrow to disprove her claim. Makes all kinds of sense.

Again, how do YOU know how it will end? Amazingly, you always know more than what's reported, and also amazingly, your additional knowledge always makes it more favorable to the left.

It may turn out she made up the whole thing because the Koch brothers paid her to do so. But how do you already know that it's not just what she says?
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keep attacking the victim....
1. Have an investigation, I have said it multiple times here, as have others. If it happened when he was a senator, have a senate investigation. I will read what Farrow comes up with, and make my own opinion later.

2. Is it attacking the victim to bring in her own tweets and quotes? If she is out there tweeting and commenting about Biden a year or two ago and now does a 180 on it, it bears questioning that she isn't a nutjob, albeit one we should at least hear out. You sound like Trump 'don't attack me with my own words....'

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I've heard that Ronan's investigating this part of the story also.

It looks like Tara Reade was charged with check fraud on August 2, 1993, and the Biden Senate office forced her to resign in lieu of termination within the end of the week. It looks like her third strike, she'd been docked twice before.

Suddenly this whole tawdry spectacle makes a lot of sense...

Can't tell Mom she was fired, Mom calls the radio talk show

Can't admit to her friends she was fired, makes up various stories

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I don’t think it hurts Biden at all unless there’s a big change. He’s going to pick a female VP and the opponent has as bad of a track record with women as you can get.

Big thing Biden has to do is articulate a value statement for electing him. Clinton struggled with this. Trump just spread lies and fear but negative advertising does tend to work.
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