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02-28-2020, 11:00 AM
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Maybe if we all cover our ears and eyes it will magically disappear one day.
"White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney on Friday suggested that Americans should ignore media reports about the coronavirus amid fears of the deadly disease spreading into the U.S."
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02-28-2020, 11:09 AM
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yawn. it’s a huge buying opportunity. and the severity of a drop is quantified as a percentage, not the number of points. and what matters is overall market performance, not the 5 worst days. you’re
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02-28-2020, 01:30 PM
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We are all set, the Stable Genius says so and he's sane.
You just have to listen to what he says, so here it is..........
This will end. This will end. You look at flu season. I said 26,000 people. I never heard of a number like that: 26,000 people, going up to 69,000 people, doctor, you told me before. 69,000 people die every year — from 20 to 69 — every year from the flu. Think of that. That’s incredible. So far, the results of all of this that everybody is reading about — and part of the thing is, you want to keep it the way it is, you don’t want to see panic, because there’s no reason to be panicked about it — but when I mentioned the flu, I asked the various doctors, “Is this just like flu?” Because people die from the flu. And this is very unusual. And it is a little bit different, but in some ways it’s easier and in some ways it’s a little bit tougher, but we have it so well under control, I mean, we really have done a very good job.
I don’t think it’s inevitable. It probably will. It possibly will. It could be at a very small level or it could be at a larger level. Whatever happens, we’re totally prepared. We have the best people in the world. You see that from the study. We have the best prepared people, the best people in the world. Congress is willing to give us much more than we’re even asking for. That’s nice for a change. But we are totally ready, willing, and able to — it’s a term that we use, it’s “ready, willing, and able.” It’s going to be very well under control. Now, it may get bigger. It may get a little bigger. It may not get bigger at all. We’ll see what happens. But regardless of what happens, we’re totally prepared.
On the markets
I think the financial markets are very upset when they look at the Democrat candidates standing on that stage make fools out of themselves, and they say, “If we ever have a president like this” — and there’s always a possibility, it’s an election, you know, who knows what happens? I think we’re going to win, I think we’re going to win by a lot — but when they look at statements made by the people standing behind those podiums, I think that has a huge effect.
Reporter: You don’t you think it had to do with the coronavirus?
Well, I think it did, I think it did, but I think you can add quite a bit of selloff to what they’re seeing. Because they’re seeing the potential – you know, again, I think we’re going to win. I feel very confident of it. We’ve done everything – and much more — than I said we were going to do. You look at what we’ve done. What we’ve done is incredible, with the tax cuts and regulation cuts, and rebuilding our military, taking care of our vets and getting them choice and accountability. All of the things we’ve done. Protecting our Second Amendment. I mean, they view that, the Second Amendment, they’re going to destroy the Second Amendment. When people look at that, they say “this is not good.” So you add that in. I really believe that’s a factor. But, no, what we’re talking about is the virus. That’s what we’re talking about. I do believe that’s — I do believe in terms of CNBC and in terms of Fox Business, I do believe that’s a factor, yeah. And I think after I win the election, I think the stock market is going to boom like it’s never boomed before. Just like the last time I won the election. The day after the stock market went up like a rocket ship.
On gutting the CDC
We can get money. And we can increase staff. We know all the good people. There’s a question I asked the doctors before. Some of the people we cut, they haven’t been used for many, many years. If we ever need them we can get them very quickly. And rather than spending the money — and I’m a business person — I don’t like having thousands of people around when you don’t need them. When we need them, we can get them back very quickly. For instance, we’re bringing some people in tomorrow that are already in this great government that we have, and very specifically for this. We can build up very, very quickly, and we’ve already done that. I mean, we have a great staff, and using Mike, I’m doing that because he’s in the administration, and he’s very good at doing what he does and doing as it relates to this.
On staying healthy
View this the same as the flu. When somebody sneezes, I mean, I try and bail out as much as possible when there’s sneezing. I had a man come up to me a week ago, I hadn’t seen him in a long time, and I said, “How you doing?” He said, “Fine, fine,” he hugged me, kissed me. I said, “Are you well?” He says “No.” He said, “I have the worst fever and the worst flu.” And he’s hugging and kissing me. So I said, excuse me, I went out and started washing my hands. So you have to do that. I really think, doctor, you want to treat this like you treat the flu, right?
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02-28-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
yawn. it’s a huge buying opportunity. and the severity of a drop is quantified as a percentage, not the number of points. and what matters is overall market performance, not the 5 worst days. you’re
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Just the other day you’re a judicial expert and today you’re Jim Kramer
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02-28-2020, 07:43 PM
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Just the other day you’re a judicial expert and today you’re Jim Kramer
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you don’t have to be an expert to know how wrong she was, you just need to be a tiny bit honest.
you tell me, spence. for the average guy who puts a few bucks into his 401k every two weeks for 40 years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing? if you don’t need the money for several years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing?
Answer - they are a good thing. Dollar cost averaging, which is how middle class people get into the stock market, delivers a better end result with dips, then it would with a straight-line upward path to the same endpoint.
Buy low, sell high. Is that going too fast for you?
i moved every cent of cash i don’t need, into equities today. it will
eventually work out great, especially if trump gets re elected.
You tell me where my math is off. i’m all ears. Please, tell me where i’m wrong. Be very specific, just this once, no baseless insults. Where is my logic off?
Can’t wait to see your response.
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02-29-2020, 06:32 AM
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you don’t have to be an expert to know how wrong she was, you just need to be a tiny bit honest.
you tell me, spence. for the average guy who puts a few bucks into his 401k every two weeks for 40 years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing? if you don’t need the money for several years, are these dips a good thing or a bad thing?
Answer - they are a good thing. Dollar cost averaging, which is how middle class people get into the stock market, delivers a better end result with dips, then it would with a straight-line upward path to the same endpoint.
Buy low, sell high. Is that going too fast for you?
i moved every cent of cash i don’t need, into equities today. it will
eventually work out great, especially if trump gets re elected.
You tell me where my math is off. i’m all ears. Please, tell me where i’m wrong. Be very specific, just this once, no baseless insults. Where is my logic off?
Can’t wait to see your response.
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But if you planned on retiring this year and you rode the Trump wave , and kept everything in hi risk , your ass is bleeding .. I am all in bonds happy with 5% return
And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break
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02-29-2020, 06:45 AM
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But if you planned on retiring this year and you rode the Trump wave , and kept everything in hi risk , your ass is bleeding .. I am all in bonds happy with 5% return
And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break
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if you need the money this year and its in stocks, you took a hit because you were stupid. but you still
have a lot more cash than you had on his first day.
if you’re retiring this year and things are so tight that a 10 percent drop screws you, then obviously you don’t keep that money in stocks.
if you’re a few years out, and still contributing, these dips are a godsend. that is a mathematical fact, and no degree of Trump hatred can refute it.
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02-29-2020, 06:48 AM
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. and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break
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so it’s trumps fault that you choose to underpay throughout the year. Who filled out your W-4, you or Trump?
you don’t want to owe 3k, there’s an easy fix for that, pay 3k more during the year. you need someone to tell you that?
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02-29-2020, 06:52 AM
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And I still took a 1500 hit ... and another 3k I owe the Government so much for the tax break
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think of it as an "investment"
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02-28-2020, 05:45 PM
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if tiger woods shoots a 15 on a par 3 but still has the lowest overall score for the 4 rounds of the masters, does he get the green jacket or not?
judging the economy not by overall performance, but by ranking the highest point drops on the worst days...I’ve actually never heard anyone even try that tactic before. TDS has boldly taken us where no one has gone before.
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02-28-2020, 07:23 PM
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if tiger woods shoots a 15 on a par 3 but still has the lowest overall score for the 4 rounds of the masters, does he get the green jacket or not?
judging the economy not by overall performance, but by ranking the highest point drops on the worst days...I’ve actually never heard anyone even try that tactic before. TDS has boldly taken us where no one has gone before.
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Trump is more like Charles Barkley if we are using a golf analogy
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02-28-2020, 07:37 PM
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Trump is more like Charles Barkley if we are using a golf analogy
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your logic was pathetic GS, come
on. i hated obama personally, but he got the economy back on track. Trump took it to places no one envisioned. You can desperately deny that all you want, but That’s what happened.
Drops are buying opportunities, for the majority of people
who put money in from each paycheck. Drops are a good thing.
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02-28-2020, 06:58 PM
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They need something Jim. Let them have it.
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02-28-2020, 07:38 PM
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They need something Jim. Let them have it.
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i know, but even for those with TDS, that was funny.
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02-29-2020, 11:55 AM
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Curious, did China actually coordinate with the CDC before the coronavirus? It has refused help from CDC since the outbreak was revealed. China acts as if it alone will handle its health problem, without our "interference."
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03-02-2020, 06:47 PM
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And if the gains hold it will be a first, even without the coming daily increases in corona virus diagnosis’s and deaths.
Don’t worry just go out to eat and support the economy, the twenty something working for a little over minimum wage with no health insurance just bought some OTC flu cure and came to work. He couldn’t afford the $3K to get tested without insurance anyways.
It probably won’t kill him or maybe you but plenty of saintly mothers will die.
Nothing to worry about
Probably save Social Security a lot of money
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03-02-2020, 08:14 PM
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And if the gains hold it will be a first, even without the coming daily increases in corona virus diagnosis’s and deaths.
Don’t worry just go out to eat and support the economy, the twenty something working for a little over minimum wage with no health insurance just bought some OTC flu cure and came to work. He couldn’t afford the $3K to get tested without insurance anyways.
It probably won’t kill him or maybe you but plenty of saintly mothers will die.
Nothing to worry about
Probably save Social Security a lot of money
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Does that guilt trip work on your kids, because it certainly doesn't work on me...
What was that saying from Scrooge, something about decreasing the surplus population.
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03-02-2020, 07:33 PM
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Just spoke to a friend who picked his daughter up after she returned from Milan Saturday. Said there was no one to meet them at the airport and check their temp. or do anything. He said people were just walking off the plane, grabbing their luggage and getting taxis into Manhattan. He and his daughter are going to self quarantine for 2 weeks. Said he called up the state department to find out if he should self quarantine and they said they are prohibited from saying anything because no directive has come down from above.
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03-02-2020, 07:49 PM
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Fortunately, the daughter will likely live.
Scary situations coming up for many in the coming weeks. My youngest had a school trip planned to China that was called off weeks ago. The Chinese say they feel like they have turned a corner of sorts but there is a lot of uncertainty. My wife was in China in December and her younger brother was there in January. Planes are about to become Petri dishes.
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03-03-2020, 08:06 AM
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I don’t care if you are motivated by guilt but thinking we don’t have a problem because we have low numbers is incorrect.
Italy's numbers are high in great part because the Italians are doing a good job testing their people fast, accurately, and for free.
America's numbers seem low not because US is exempt, but because US is testing late, slow, and expensive
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03-03-2020, 09:36 AM
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I don’t care if you are motivated by guilt but thinking we don’t have a problem because we have low numbers is incorrect.
Italy's numbers are high in great part because the Italians are doing a good job testing their people fast, accurately, and for free.
America's numbers seem low not because US is exempt, but because US is testing late, slow, and expensively
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Hey Bitchslappedboy, the only one saying we have no problem is you. Now you decide Italy is doing a great job despite having a widespread caseload of the virus. Thanks for proving what many here suspect.
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03-03-2020, 10:43 AM
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Hey Bitchslappedboy, the only one saying we have no problem is you. Now you decide Italy is doing a great job despite having a widespread caseload of the virus. Thanks for proving what many here suspect.
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Dingleberry You're not a critical thinker, are you?
Italy is doing a great job of testing.
We are not and have no clue of what the actual caseload is.
Here's what happens if you are in the Seattle area, of course it is purely anecdotal and based on one person's experience.
I live in Seattle, I have all symptoms of COVID-19 and have a history of chronic bronchitis.
Since I work in a physical therapy clinic with many 65+ patients and those with chronic illnesses, I decided to be responsible and go to get tested. This is how that went.
I called the Corona hotline, was on hold for 40 minutes and gave up.
So I looked at the CDC and Washington public health websites. They told me to see a primary care doctor, but there's no information about testing.
I called 2 primary care doctors. One told me they don't know where to get testing, and that I should not to seek out testing. The other one told me to go to an urgent care or ER.
I called the Urgent Care, they also had no idea where tests are, but told me to call the hospital.
I called the hospital. They do not have tests, but transferred me to the COVID-19 hotline to "answer my questions". Since I was transferred on a medical provider line, I actually got through. Progress!
The lady with the hotline was very kind and professional and understood my concern about my own health and those at my clinic. (Which is currently being sanitized). However, I was told I do not qualify for testing. And I was not given a timeline or info on current resources.
So. Who does qualify? Those who have been out of the country in the last 14 days, and those who have had contact with one of the few people who have been tested and come up positive. That's it.
The only way I can get treated is if my symptoms get so bad I develop pneumonia or bronchitis, which is very likely in my case. Then I'll be in the ER and quarantined for several days while waiting for a test and for the results to come back.
This is all incredibly frustrating because I am trying to do everything right in a system that punishes moments of "weakness" like taking days off.
It's also scary to know that I won't be able to get help until I need life support.
To sum up: this is not contained. No one knows what the #^&#^&#^&#^& is happening. I can't work. WASH YOUR #^&#^&#^&#^&ING HANDS.
And remember how the Administration solved it.
Patient: "So, it looks like I have coronavirus now. What should I do?"
Doctor: "Don't worry about it. The federal reserve cut rates by 50 basis points. You'll be fine."
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03-03-2020, 12:03 PM
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*Yawn
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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03-03-2020, 02:58 PM
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59 million and burdened with widespread virus
327 million and still isolated cases
Some people are a special stupid.
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03-03-2020, 03:35 PM
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Seem Trump has no influence when the market tanked his most rabid defenders never once mentioned it ..
But now it went back up 1000 points out come the cheerleaders
 when it comes to Trump
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03-03-2020, 03:54 PM
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Seem Trump has no influence when the market tanked his most rabid defenders never once mentioned it ..
But now it went back up 1000 points out come the cheerleaders
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Your logic is ass backwards, as usual
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03-03-2020, 04:42 PM
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9 deaths in Washington
Washington has 27 cases confirmed
WHO says death rate from Coronavirus is 3.4%
There could easily be over 250 undiagnosed people in Washington today and the dispersal is geometric.
Community spread is not fake news.
2 diagnosed cases each in Mass and Rhody to date.
Singapore has about the only program that seems to contain it, but I doubt that it could or would work here for a number of reasons. But they are capable of explaining what Coronavirus is and what you can do about it for your own and the people you care about's safety and that is what their health minister does quite well in this video.
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03-03-2020, 05:44 PM
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Dow Plunges Nearly 800 Points, Despite Fed Rescue Attempt 
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03-03-2020, 06:31 PM
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9 deaths in Washington
Washington has 27 cases confirmed
WHO says death rate from Coronavirus is 3.4%
There could easily be over 250 undiagnosed people in Washington today and the dispersal is geometric.
Community spread is not fake news.
2 diagnosed cases each in Mass and Rhody to date.
Singapore has about the only program that seems to contain it, but I doubt that it could or would work here for a number of reasons. But they are capable of explaining what Coronavirus is and what you can do about it for your own and the people you care about's safety and that is what their health minister does quite well in this video.
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Bitchslappedboy,have you already determined that if and when the US
is dealt a heavy hand of corona that it is the fault of Trump? We all know it is bad and extremely contagious as well as deadly. The United States is the 3rd most visited county in the world. Italy,number 5. Take a look around, perhaps Spain has maple syrup.
P.S. don’t spout off about “Italian health care” being the standard for the world,or even the US when you obviously have no clue. See how long it takes the ambulance to get you after getting run over in Rome...pack a lunch.
You are not as intelligent as I thought. More like the rantings of a madman.
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