Trump

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

which republicans are saying we should be like russia?

They only want the white parts of Russia and a strongman leader and the no tolerance parts ! gays transgender , protesters , and minority’s
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who wants that?
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[wdmso]

yes wayne, liberals are the tolerant ones. it’s not conservatives who get banned from social
media and from speaking on college campuses. liberals are too tolerant to engage in that.

And the taking point parrot speaks lol
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[Pete F.]

At the G20 Summit in Argentina in 2018, USA cancelled an official meeting with Putin as Vlad had just attacked Ukraine warships, but then Trump had surprise meeting w Putin with no WH aide or interpreter present. Just Donald and Melania and a 15 min chat. Wonder what they said??
from the Hill: ‘Trump was joined by his wife Melania Trump, but there was no note-taker or translator from the U.S. at the meeting. Putin was reportedly accompanied by a translator, with all four at a table.’
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

At the G20 Summit in Argentina in 2018, USA cancelled an official meeting with Putin as Vlad had just attacked Ukraine warships, but then Trump had surprise meeting w Putin with no WH aide or interpreter present. Just Donald and Melania and a 15 min chat. Wonder what they said??
from the Hill: ‘Trump was joined by his wife Melania Trump, but there was no note-taker or translator from the U.S. at the meeting. Putin was reportedly accompanied by a translator, with all four at a table.’
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Trump probably insisted the Pooty was acting weak and wasting time and should hurry up and invade Ukraine.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Trump probably insisted the Pooty was acting weak and wasting time and should hurry up and invade Ukraine.

Hey, remember when Obama expelled 35 Russian spies and took away two spy compounds because of 2016 election tampering, and then incoming Nat Sec Adviser Mike Flynn secretly called Russians to stay calm because they would fix it later, and then Trump got in and wanted to return the compounds?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Hey, remember when Obama expelled 35 Russian spies and took away two spy compounds because of 2016 election tampering, and then incoming Nat Sec Adviser Mike Flynn secretly called Russians to stay calm because they would fix it later, and then Trump got in and wanted to return the compounds?
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I remember that Flynn was diplomatically and legally trying to calm a situation that Obama caused and how he was nefariously tricked into into a confession in order to remove him from the Trump administration because he knew too much.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I remember that Flynn was diplomatically and legally trying to calm a situation that Obama caused and how he was nefariously tricked into into a confession in order to remove him from the Trump administration because he knew too much.

nefariously tricked into into a confession

Wow I am amazed how you have convinced yourself that’s what happened to a grown man and former General.

Ps not really amazed .
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[Pete F.]

Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton: “Trump Made It That Much Easier for Putin to Invade Ukraine.”
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Former Trump national security adviser John Bolton: “Trump Made It That Much Easier for Putin to Invade Ukraine.”
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Sour grapes Bolton tried to get back his lost mojo. Is he still relevant?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sour grapes Bolton tried to get back his lost mojo. Is he still relevant?

Why is that always the excuse
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[PaulS]

U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton berated his former boss, President Donald Trump, over his lack of knowledge dealing with Russia during his presidency.

Bolton appeared on the far-right Newsmax network's Rob Schmitt Tonight disagreeing with the host's opinion that Trump had been hard on Russia while he was in office, saying Trump was not competent to be president.

When Schmitt said the Trump administration's approach was "pretty tough on Russia, in a lot of ways," Bolton disagreed. Bolton argued that Trump "didn't understand what he was doing" in regards to Russia.

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."

Schmitt interrupted Bolton saying that Trump eventually did send Ukraine assistance and even sold them arms. Bolton became more frank, asserting the assistance was mandated by Congress and that Trump "made up the reasons" that he did it to apply pressure for his own motives.

"But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it and saying we were being too hard," Bolton said. "The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians."

Schmitt insisted that it was unfair to say that Trump made no intelligent moves against Russia during his presidency. In a speech Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Trump claimed the Ukraine invasion wouldn't have happened had he not lost the 2020 election, continuing to falsely say it was stolen from him.

Bolton continued to back up his thoughts on Trump, telling Schmitt he should have never been president to begin with.

"Trump was not fit to be president," Bolton said. "He was not competent to be president."

Newsweek reached out to Bolton for further comment.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

U.S. National Security Advisor John Bolton berated his former boss, President Donald Trump, over his lack of knowledge dealing with Russia during his presidency.

Bolton appeared on the far-right Newsmax network's Rob Schmitt Tonight disagreeing with the host's opinion that Trump had been hard on Russia while he was in office, saying Trump was not competent to be president.

When Schmitt said the Trump administration's approach was "pretty tough on Russia, in a lot of ways," Bolton disagreed. Bolton argued that Trump "didn't understand what he was doing" in regards to Russia.

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."

Schmitt interrupted Bolton saying that Trump eventually did send Ukraine assistance and even sold them arms. Bolton became more frank, asserting the assistance was mandated by Congress and that Trump "made up the reasons" that he did it to apply pressure for his own motives.

"But in almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it and saying we were being too hard," Bolton said. "The fact is that he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians."

Schmitt insisted that it was unfair to say that Trump made no intelligent moves against Russia during his presidency. In a speech Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) Trump claimed the Ukraine invasion wouldn't have happened had he not lost the 2020 election, continuing to falsely say it was stolen from him.

Bolton continued to back up his thoughts on Trump, telling Schmitt he should have never been president to begin with.

"Trump was not fit to be president," Bolton said. "He was not competent to be president."

Newsweek reached out to Bolton for further comment.

What are we supposed to conclude from someone expressing personal opinions about someone else's competence and motivations? I don't see a competent, unbiased, critical analysis of Trump in this Bolton sketch of Trump. And resorting to what looks more like a smear rather than an analytical observation, raises, for me, a question about Bolton's motivation.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What are we supposed to conclude from someone expressing personal opinions about someone else's competence and motivations? I don't see a competent, unbiased, critical analysis of Trump in this Bolton sketch of Trump. And resorting to what looks more like a smear rather than an analytical observation, raises, for me, a question about Bolton's motivation.

he seems a little bitter....remember when pete told us his book was going to bring down trump?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. .

In other words, Bolton can't argue with what Trump actually did, he just hates Trump because Trump pretty much ended Bolton's relevance within the GOP.

How come no one on the left wants to have policy arguments?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

In other words, Bolton can't argue with what Trump actually did, he just hates Trump because Trump pretty much ended Bolton's relevance within the GOP.

How come no one on the left wants to have policy arguments?

Or maybe he dislikes Trump for being so stupid and only looking out for himself instead of the country (similar to what F. Hill said about Trump).

"This is not really a policy argument," Bolton said. "This is really about Trump's lack of any significant historical knowledge, his lack of strategic thinking, and frankly, his lack of thinking about pretty much anything other than what benefitted Donald Trump."

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

"Why was he concerned about Ukraine in the summer of 2019? Because he wanted that DNC server," Bolton added. "Why was he concerned about corruption in Ukraine? Because he was looking for an excuse to cover the reason he was refusing to send $250 million of security assistance to the Ukraine, and only when that finally blew up in his face."

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

yet the country was doing great and the world was pretty peaceful till covid and biden...democrats weren't happy of course

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Or maybe he dislikes Trump for being so stupid and only looking out for himself instead of the country (similar to what F. Hill said about Trump).



Bolton went on to say the former president only made moves that would benefit himself and his own political purposes, not the country.

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and that’s demonstrably false horse crap.

the country was better ifff before covid but by just about any conceivable measure, that’s. it was in 2020.

as i said, vague personal attacks that are totally refuted by the facts. trump did things americans liked.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and that’s demonstrably false horse crap.

the country was better ifff before covid but by just about any conceivable measure, that’s. it was in 2020.

as i said, vague personal attacks that are totally refuted by the facts. trump did things americans liked.
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ok so 2 who dealt w/Trump on a daily??? basis behind closed doors both said the same thing but it is horse crap.

[wdmso]

Trump: Russian Invasion a 'Holocaust,' Calls to 'Stop Killing'

now he's in Damage control

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump: Russian Invasion a 'Holocaust,' Calls to 'Stop Killing'

now he's in Damage control

He's Putin's puppet.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump: Russian Invasion a 'Holocaust,' Calls to 'Stop Killing'

now he's in Damage control

it’s Trumps damage to control?
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[Pete F.]

During the presidential transition period, Trump spoke openly about easing off sanctions that had been imposed on Russia for its election meddling. Weeks into his term, after he said he respected Putin and was challenged that the Russian president was “a killer,” Trump pushed back with this apologia: “What, do you think our country’s so innocent?”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

During the presidential transition period, Trump spoke openly about easing off sanctions that had been imposed on Russia for its election meddling. Weeks into his term, after he said he respected Putin and was challenged that the Russian president was “a killer,” Trump pushed back with this apologia: “What, do you think our country’s so innocent?”
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again, if what you’re saying is true, putin might have invaded when trump
was potus, thereby not facing the sanctions that Biden is enforcing.

clobbered by common sense a toddler could figure out.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

again, if what you’re saying is true, putin might have invaded when trump
was potus, thereby not facing the sanctions that Biden is enforcing.

clobbered by common sense a toddler could figure out.
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In mid-July 2017, Trump tried to weaken new congressionally imposed sanctions against Russia — before they passed by veto-proof majorities and he begrudgingly signed them into law, calling them “seriously flawed.”
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[Jim in CT]

pete -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bro...on-russia/amp/
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

pete -

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bro...on-russia/amp/
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On that ignominious day in July 2018, standing alongside Putin, Trump was asked whether he sided with U.S. intelligence agencies’ universal assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 elections. His reply: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Deference has rarely been so devious.
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[wdmso]

Jan. 6 panel claims Trump 'engaged in criminal conspiracy'


just another Hoax

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jan. 6 panel claims Trump 'engaged in criminal conspiracy'


just another Hoax

claims or charges?....I think this has been claimed since Jan 6th

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

On that ignominious day in July 2018, standing alongside Putin, Trump was asked whether he sided with U.S. intelligence agencies’ universal assessment that Russia had interfered in the 2016 elections. His reply: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it would be.” Deference has rarely been so devious.
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Can't make those thing up

[Pete F.]

Congress can’t charge, they refer to DOJ
The Jan. 6 select committee says it believes Donald Trump violated multiple laws in his quest to overturn the 2020 election — including obstruction of Congress and defrauding the United States.

The committee supported its conclusions by releasing excerpts from multiple depositions, including:

-JASON MILLER
-MARC SHORT
-GREG JACOB
-JOHN EASTMAN
-KEITH KELLOGG
-JEFF ROSEN
-RICHARD DONOGHUE
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