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[Pete F.]

John McCain chose Barack Obama and George W. Bush -- the two men who kept him from the White House -- to eulogize him and didn't want Trump to attend his funeral.
I’d say he would have been standing shoulder to shoulder with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinziger, roaring about gutless Senators and voted as his wife did.
Just what policy is the Republican Party for, other than being the party of None and Trump
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[wdmso]

This is another issue with the GOP we spent trillions of dollars in Afghanistan and they never lifted a finger in protest
Nor did the Democratic’s but now since Biden a Dem wants to spend money in the dear old USA magically the Republicans are against it .. only because owning and blocking the libs get them votes. What happened to MAGA I guess it’s was just a campaign slogan for Republicans only the rest of America need not apply
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This is another issue with the GOP we spent trillions of dollars in Afghanistan and they never lifted a finger in protest
Nor did the Democratic’s but now since Biden a Dem wants to spend money in the dear old USA magically the Republicans are against it .. only because owning and blocking the libs get them votes. What happened to MAGA I guess it’s was just a campaign slogan for Republicans only the rest of America need not apply
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3.5 trillion with a lot of
pork, is something the opposition party will always squawk over. not much to see there as spence says every time something paints dems negatively. democrat senator manchin also says he’s opposed to it. the most moderate, democrat, one of the only who ever goes his own way, is opposed to it, or so he says now.

you’re saying if you are pro america, you should never oppose any federal spending? sure sounds like that’s what you’re saying here. o sense. you never stop complaining about trumps tax cuts, but it’s a character flaw to oppose biden’s tax cuts? it’s only ok when you do it?

american citizens who work for tesla, should be delighted at the prospect of having their federal income taxes used to give tax credits to ford?

Can’t they just pass a true infrastructure bill that has nothing but infastructure spending in there? no one opposes that.

are you saying that democrats “lifted a finger” to oppose any if trumps spending? come on. his tax cuts?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This is another issue with the GOP we spent trillions of dollars in Afghanistan and they never lifted a finger in protest
Nor did the Democratic’s but now since Biden a Dem wants to spend money in the dear old USA magically the Republicans are against it .. only because owning and blocking the libs get them votes. What happened to MAGA I guess it’s was just a campaign slogan for Republicans only the rest of America need not apply
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here’s an AP article saying democrats opposed trumps defense budget.

so much for them “never lifting a finger.”. yes they gave trump a rubber stamp.

https://apnews.com/article/5fd6f64b3...25d98d4b88bcd1
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here’s an AP article saying democrats opposed trumps defense budget.

so much for them “never lifting a finger.”. yes they gave trump a rubber stamp.

https://apnews.com/article/5fd6f64b3...25d98d4b88bcd1
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Americans defense budget is out of control and has been for decades it’s welfare from defense contractors and company
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Americans defense budget is out of control and has been for decades it’s welfare from defense contractors and company
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i agree with that 100%. but in your previous post (#38) weren’t you were critical of republicans for opposing biden’s defense budget? you’re kind of all over the place.

Seems like you’re saying every single thing democrats do is righteous and honest, and every single thing everyone else does is bad.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Americans defense budget is out of control and has been for decades it’s welfare from defense contractors and company
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I know right?...just ask weekend-at-biden's brother...

[Pete F.]

Joe Manchin is a Senator from a state that ranks last in infrastructure, 48th for economy, 47th for healthcare and economic opportunity, 45th for education.
Just who is he representing, his constituents are Americans that would stand to gain the most from what the Democrats propose.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Joe Manchin is a Senator from a state that ranks last in infrastructure, 48th for economy, 47th for healthcare and economic opportunity, 45th for education.
Just who is he representing, his constituents are Americans that would stand to gain the most from what the Democrats propose.
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Perhaps his constituents don't agree with you. They voted for him. Maybe they think they "stand to gain" other things more.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Perhaps his constituents don't agree with you. They voted for him. Maybe they think they "stand to gain" other things more.

correct. i guess pete should get to decide which states have a senator and which do not.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Perhaps his constituents don't agree with you. They voted for him. Maybe they think they "stand to gain" other things more.

Perhaps he doesn’t represent his constituents well
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Perhaps he doesn’t represent his constituents well
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well...it's west virginia...soooo....not nearly as smart or superior in most ways as the new englanders who look down upon them

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

well...it's west virginia...soooo....not nearly as smart or superior in most ways as the new englanders who look down upon them

If you say so
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Perhaps he doesn’t represent his constituents well
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perhaps you can explain why he keeps getting re-elected.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

perhaps you can explain why he keeps getting re-elected.
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White voters without a four-year degree made up 69 percent of voters there in 2020, according to census data, the highest in the country.

And Joe Manchin has a dream that he will be reelected, it's unlikely.

[Jim in CT]

and Senator Sinema from AZ also says she won’t back that bill. I guess Pete will tell us why AZ doesn’t count either.

There are 2 of 50 democrat senators who are capable of acting on their own ( not a lot of republicans capable of that either), and both are opposed to the bill. but it’s only the republicans fault.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and Senator Sinema from AZ also says she won’t back that bill. I guess Pete will tell us why AZ doesn’t count either.


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people in Arizona and West Virginia are really stupid...Pete and his friends in Vermont are super smart...look how they are crushing covid...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

people in Arizona and West Virginia are really stupid...Pete and his friends in Vermont are super smart...look how they are crushing covid...

The pandemics 2nd wrongest commentator continues to just be clueless.

Every other state has a higher death rate than Vermont!


Only 294 people in VT have died. The point of the vaccines is that it protects from hospitalization and death.

Gov Phil Scott has been pro-vax & its working

[scottw]

[QUOTE=Pete F.;

The point of the vaccines is that it protects from hospitalization

[/QUOTE]

The point of the vaccines was to prevent you from getting it to prevent the spread till it became obvious that you could still get it and spread it if you are vaccinated
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

The point of the vaccines was to prevent you from getting it to prevent the spread till it became obvious that you could still get it and spread it if you are vaccinated
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The pandemics 2nd wrongest commentator continues to just be clueless.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The point of the vaccines is that it protects from hospitalization and death.

we were told Pfizer has 95% efficacy "preventing infection"...not "protecting from hospitalization"..or death

"Based on evidence from clinical trials in people 16 years and older, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 95% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed infection with the virus that causes COVID-19"

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

we were told Pfizer has 95% efficacy "preventing infection"...not "protecting from hospitalization"..or death

"Based on evidence from clinical trials in people 16 years and older, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 95% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed infection with the virus that causes COVID-19"

The pandemics 2nd wrongest commentator continues to just be clueless.
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[Pete F.]

Arizona ranks 39th overall, good luck with that
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[Pete F.]

Back to before the train wreck
“The focus on Milley misses a larger point: He was just one of a half-dozen senior military and civilian officials who took similar unusual steps during the final months of Trump’s administration to prevent what they feared might be a catastrophe.”
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[Pete F.]

Always looking for insults, poor victim, no issues, just the facts.

White voters without a four-year degree made up 69 percent of voters there in 2020, according to census data, the highest in the country is a fact.
They elected TFG.

I think Manchin will lose in the general to a trumplican, so does he.
He's considered running for governor again and he's 74 and will be 77 in the next election cycle.

Something will happen, lots of political games coming

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Always looking for insults, poor victim, no issues, just the facts.

White voters without a four-year degree made up 69 percent of voters there in 2020, according to census data, the highest in the country is a fact.
They elected TFG.

I think Manchin will lose in the general to a trumplican, so does he.
He's considered running for governor again and he's 74 and will be 77 in the next election cycle.

Something will happen, lots of political games coming

“they elected trump.”

and they elected Manchin, who is a pretty liberal democrat.

You’re concerned with Manchins age, but not Biden’s?

People have been saying for ten years that Manchins time
is up. i don’t like him, i’d like to see him lose, but he’s popular there.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“they elected trump.”

and they elected Manchin, who is a pretty liberal democrat.

You’re concerned with Manchins age, but not Biden’s?

I think Joe Manchin is concerned with his age, you'll figure it out when you grow up, 40 is a long time for adolescence

People have been saying for ten years that Manchins time
is up. i don’t like him, i’d like to see him lose, but he’s popular there.
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All right, all the way, no centrist can survive.

If Manchin is a liberal Democrat in your view, because he voted with the Biden agenda items is Bernie then more right wing?

[wdmso]

Tom Cotton GENERAL MILLEY, I CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT YOUR ADVICE ABOUT STAYING IN AFGHANISTAN WAS REJECTED. I’M SHOCKED TO LEARN THAT YOUR ADVICE WASN’T SOUGHT UNTIL AUGUST 25 ON STAYING PAST THE AUGUST 31 DEADLINE. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU’RE THE PRINCIPAL MILITARY ADVISER; THAT YOU ADVISE, YOU DON’T DECIDE. THE PRESIDENT DECIDES. BUT IF ALL THIS IS TRUE, GENERAL MILLEY, WHY HAVEN’T YOU RESIGNED?’

Gen

AS A SENIOR MILITARY OFFICER, RESIGNING IS A REALLY SERIOUS THING. IT’S A POLITICAL ACT, IF I’M RESIGNING IN PROTEST. MY JOB IS TO PROVIDE ADVICE. MY STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROVIDE LEGAL ADVICE, OR BEST MILITARY ADVICE, TO THE PRESIDENT… THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT ADVICE. HE DOESN’T HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS JUST BECAUSE WE’RE GENERALS, AND IT WOULD BE AN INCREDIBLE ACT OF POLITICAL DEFIANCE FOR A COMMISSIONED OFFICER TO JUST RESIGN BECAUSE MY ADVICE IS NOT TAKEN. THIS COUNTRY DOESN’T WANT GENERALS FIGURING OUT WHAT ORDERS WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT AND DO OR NOT. THAT’S NOT OUR JOB. THE PRINCIPLE OF CIVILIAN CONTROL OF THE MILITARY IS ABSOLUTE — IT’S CRITICAL TO THIS REPUBLIC.’

And In addition to that, just from a personal standpoint, my dad didn't get a choice to resign at Iwo Jima,"

"And those kids there at Abbey Gate, they don't get a choice to resign, and I'm not going to turn my back on them," Milley said in "I'm not gonna resign– they can't resign, so I'm not going to resign, there's no way."

He added, "if the orders are illegal, we're in a different place, but if the orders are legal, from civilian authority, I intend to carry them out."


It’s seems Tom Cotton a former Captain thinks ones personal feeling should come before ones Duty..

Yet he condemned Jan 6th no quarter for insurrectionists. Those who attacked the Capitol today should face the full extent of federal law.

But blocked the Jan6th commission? And he questioned Milley principles ? Does he own any mirrors?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Milley

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I bet he ends up with a show on MSNBC

[Pete F.]

Gen Mark Milley:

Defense Distinguished Service Medal (2)
Army Distinguished Service Medal (4)
Defense Superior Service Medal (3)
Legion of Merit (3)
Bronze Star Medal (4)

Rep Matt Gaetz:
- Free Britney
- Sex trafficker
- Pedophile