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Old 03-24-2020, 04:26 PM   #1
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As long as you are looking at South Korea for guidance.

Lee Wang-jun, the leader of the Working Group of the Korean Hospital Association's COVID-19 Emergency Response Headquarter and chairman of Myongji Hospital, also said the country needed a long-term measure to fight COVID-19, given that community-acquired infections were gradually rising nationwide, setting aside Daegu and North Gyeongsang Province.

“We hope that this upward trend could peak in late March or early April and recede later on. Even if we get a respite in late April, the outbreak is likely to continue throughout this year and maybe into next year, or a year after that,” Lee said.

Lee predicted that the influx of the pandemic would become a new source of infections, and sporadic cluster infections will continue. Even if a treatment is developed, it will mainly treat pneumonia in severe patients, he noted.

“It is difficult to expect a drug like Tamiflu, and the vaccine development seems to be also challenging,” he added.

Lee warned that repeated spreads of COVID-19 could occur when the following conditions were met: a global pandemic, an explosive rise of COVID-19 patients in the U.S. and Europe, the inefficiency of the healthcare system of the U.S., the winter in the southern hemisphere, and the possibility of COVID-19 becoming an endemic disease in Africa.

Although the next two weeks are crucial to prevent a further spread of COVID-19, people should not expect that temporary social distancing would end the pandemic early and return to normal, Lee warned.

“You should not make a strategy with an expectation for an end. We can’t go back to normal. We should prepare for the new normal of an infectious disease era,” he emphasized.

Lee called for reorganizing the Korean healthcare system to prepare for a long-term battle against the virus.

“The healthcare system should be changed to fight a sustainable battle, not an emergency maneuvering battle,” he said.

Lee proposed dividing the emergency medical capacity all focused on COVID-19 containment into two – a stable medical system to respond to the virus infection and a normal patient care system.

“The government should reorganize the regional control towers so that the government-led disease control leadership does not create conflict with the on-site medical workers,” he said.

Korean society needs a new philosophy and a creative disease control strategy for a long-term fight. People should know that the medical workers’ dedication and citizens’ participation are most important to efficiently choose and focus resources and workforce, and distribute and manage them, Lee added.

Meanwhile Trump* unwittingly lets Pence propose the Rapture in the weeks after Easter.

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Old 03-24-2020, 05:13 PM   #2
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As long as you are looking at South Korea for guidance.
I'm not looking at SK for guidance. You seemed to look to it as a model as compared to what you profess that Trump did or didn't do. For those who feel that the SK model is so good and better than Trump's, and that Trump is stupid or dangerously saying something that might inspire folks to harm or kill themselves, I pointed that the chloroquine drug is part of the recommended guide to treatment by the supposedly superior SK guidance for treatment.

I would think that people like wdmso, if he had a serious attack of the virus that doctors had run the course of treatment and could no longer help, he would appreciate the information that there is a drug that has effectively been used to reverse the effects of the virus. Maybe I'm wrong, but if there was nothing else the doctors could do for wdmso, and he was about to enter the eternal unknown, I think he would give a chloroquine drug cocktail a try.

In spite of your "Perhaps a better interpretation of what happened to these poor souls is that stupid people believe Trump*", if you were in a position that doctors could no longer help you with FDA approved medicine to recover from the virus, wouldn't you be glad that someone, a "leader," informed us that there was something that might help, that it has helped, and that he was helping to provide the drug to our medical facilities?
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I'm not looking at SK for guidance. You seemed to look to it as a model as compared to what you profess that Trump did or didn't do. For those who feel that the SK model is so good and better than Trump's, and that Trump is stupid or dangerously saying something that might inspire folks to harm or kill themselves, I pointed that the chloroquine drug is part of the recommended guide to treatment by the supposedly superior SK guidance for treatment.

I would think that people like wdmso, if he had a serious attack of the virus that doctors had run the course of treatment and could no longer help, he would appreciate the information that there is a drug that has effectively been used to reverse the effects of the virus. Maybe I'm wrong, but if there was nothing else the doctors could do for wdmso, and he was about to enter the eternal unknown, I think he would give a chloroquine drug cocktail a try.

In spite of your "Perhaps a better interpretation of what happened to these poor souls is that stupid people believe Trump*", if you were in a position that doctors could no longer help you with FDA approved medicine to recover from the virus, wouldn't you be glad that someone, a "leader," informed us that there was something that might help, that it has helped, and that he was helping to provide the drug to our medical facilities?
Should I do the bow down before your great wisdom baloney
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:30 PM   #4
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So, if you were in a position facing sure death from the virus and doctors could no longer help you with FDA approved medicine to recover from the coronavirus, would you try one of the chloroquine drug cocktails administered by your doctor?
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So, if you were in a position facing sure death from the virus and doctors could no longer help you with FDA approved medicine to recover from the coronavirus, would you try one of the chloroquine drug cocktails administered by your doctor?
Pfff
Do you honestly think that Trump discovered this?

The SK article you cited predates his "announcement" and it is not the only one on the subject.

He's just coming up with his normal baloney to blow smoke and provide cover for his incompetence and failure to act.

There will be the relatives of 100,000+ people within weeks who will want to know what could have been done and the number will keep growing.
We only have a limited number of ICU beds and that has been known forever.
It is the main reason a pandemic was identified as a main national security issue.
The one thing the federal government is good at is taking notes.
The failings will all come out.

One ICU after another will fill beyond capacity and he will hold his daily rally and claim "I don't take responsibility at all".

Today he had two and how many times did his courtiers praise PsychoBozo's great accomplishments.

When will you realize that this experiment of having a dumb TV host and shady real estate developer with no government knowledge, 5 kids from 3 marriages, 6 bankruptcies, 46 charges of sexual assault, 35,000 lawsuits and a total inability to tell the truth as president is not going well at all?






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Old 03-25-2020, 05:47 AM   #6
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somebody keep pete away from pet stores please....
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Old 03-25-2020, 11:47 AM   #7
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Pfff
Do you honestly think that Trump discovered this?
No need to deflect and imply that I think Trump discovered it (I know he didn't). And then use my question as an excuse to throw one of your familiar anti-Trump rants telling us things you've already told us ad nauseum.

Just answer the question. If you were seriously suffering from the virus and doctors could no longer help you with other FDA approved medicine to recover from the coronavirus, would you try one of the chloroquine drug cocktails administered by your doctor?
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NY hospitals are already using chloroquine to treat patients. are they just blindly following trump?

you guys are like those gals on The View.
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It’s just a clinical trial, huge difference Jim.
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i didn’t say it was in mass production. but it has potential. That’s what many people, including Trump are saying.

Do you feel trump is responsible for an idiot drinking fish tank cleaner?
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Old 03-25-2020, 10:44 PM   #11
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Time will tell
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Old 03-26-2020, 06:41 AM   #12
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Pete, did you claim Obama was responsible for the 10,000+ Americans who died of H1N1 during his presidency?

You need to loosen the straps on your tin foil hat occasionally.
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Pete, did you claim Obama was responsible for the 10,000+ Americans who died of H1N1 during his presidency?

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He is too blinded by hate to know the difference. He lost his ability to reason long ago.
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Just wondering how he'd respond to the question...of course you're right...
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Sorry, I don't feel guilty for letting out my frustrations about this administration on the political forum of a fishing website.

Yesterday's presser was over an hour long and consisted of about a half an hour of experts talking and the balance was self aggrandizing political speech by Trump* and Pence, claiming credit and laying blame.

My diatribes pale in comparison to his public speech.

I feel that it is irrelevant how many die, or how bad the economy gets. Trump's response will be: "We did a tremendous job, great things are happening. And if I hadn't been in charge, this would have been worse than anything that anyone has ever heard of."

When he claims that remember that our government, aka "the Deep State", has plans for everything because the goal is to not ever have to say "who would have thought"

Here is the step by step plan for a pandemic, what happened?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...sam&stream=top

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Let’s move on to Biden who offered hope with this gem. “ people are going to die who have never died before.”

Looks like the mailman is your write-in
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Let’s move on to Biden who offered hope with this gem. “ people are going to die who have never died before.”

Looks like the mailman is your write-in
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Fake news. He never said that.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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You may be true on the actual quote. I actually watched him call his sister his wife though.
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You may be true on the actual quote. I actually watched him call his sister his wife though.
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On the actual quote? Right, not a shred of truth to it. I also saw the wife/sister thing, but they were standing behind him. Very awkward, though not as awkward as a dad asking about his 16 yo daughter
“Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” or on other occasions that he would date her if not her father or any of the numerous other repulsive conversations about his daughter he has had in public forums. Sort of behavior fits right in with someone who would be named in a suit with Epstein. Oh wait, right...

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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I agree, both creepy guys. Unfortunately,I feel Joe has lost a little velocity off the heater at this point. He also seems confused by simple tasks.
Epstein? Not sure why the Clintons killed him yet are you?
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I agree, both creepy guys. Unfortunately,I feel Joe has lost a little velocity off the heater at this point. He also seems confused by simple tasks.
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After what he did to those kids? Hopefully one of their dad's had connections. Though I think in all likelihood, Trump probably had much more reason and power to do it than the Clintons. Neither would shock me though. Same mold of narcissist rich guy.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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You have been putting lipstick on a pig for three years now
Hope you’re happy with the results
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Pretty much.
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Pretty much.
You wanted a reality show host as a president, well now you’re on Survivor.
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Devastating....
Not a “hoax.”
Not “totally under control.”
Not “15 people.”
Not down “to close to zero.”
A “great job” does not look like this
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Time to cheer for the USA.
These numbers are something to be optimistic about.
Lives are being saved with our preparedness.
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These numbers are something to be optimistic about.
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Is that why there’s a giant shortage of masks, protective wear and ventilators?? We are prepared?
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I don’t know what numbers he’s looking at. This things isn’t even close to a tipping point.
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Mimosa time Jeff?
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