Trump’s PR Meltdown

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It doesn't prove anything, because land can't vote. It has nothing to do with a proximity to salt water, it's mostly about urban versus rural. Additionally your map doesn't show % of blue voters in red counties. It's practically meaningless which is why Trump uses it.

its not the saltwater spence. it’s the culture of the people
there, which is different from the culture in middle america. the coasts are where a majority of the swells live, people who think that drinking hot toddies with cashmere sweaters tied around their necks is the zenith of civilization, especially if god plays no role.

in flyover country, they view things differently. they view family, religion, guns, and patriotism, differently. disagree all you want, as the inability to recognize that will
not help the democrats in 2020.



thanks for telling me that land doesn’t vote, though.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

its not the saltwater spence. it’s the culture of the people
there, which is different from the culture in middle america.

in flyover country, they view things differently. they view family, religion, guns, and patriotism, differently.
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You and Republicans are the only 1 selling the 2 America's.. youve bought into a lie that all thats left of America is the wholesome middle america.. you really need to get out more ...
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[Pete F.]

Remember: Three weeks before Khashoggi's murder, the Trump Org’s business partner in Indonesia inked an agreement with a construction firm in which the Saudi government owns a large stake to work on a development that will include Trump-branded elements.

[Pete F.]

President Trump says he wants Rep Adam Schiff D-CA tried for fraud and treason.

Rep Maxine Waters wants Trump "imprisoned & placed in solitary confinement"

[Sea Dangles]

The map is merely symbolic. Trump baits #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s into hysteria and that is why he refers to it. Mission accomplished once again for our great president.
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[Pete F.]

The "Nationalist" currently flying around with Mike Pompeo openly admits they’re on a mission to smear Barack Obama and Trump’s other political enemies.

[Pete F.]

More than 352k people have registered to vote in Georgia this year, sending voting rolls to record high. 47% of new registrants are minorities, 45% under 30 -

[Pete F.]

NOW From a GOP Senate staffer: "The Civil War tweet is a tipping point for some, but not all." Says Trump's actions are pushing the GOP toward removal if that vote comes. It boils down to
@senatemajldr
. "If Sen. McConnell votes for removal, then it's over."

[Jim in CT]

Pete, i am aware that most abortions aren’t late term. you guys have a real back for
answering a question no one asked.

Why should any pro choice person object to late term abortion? how does that make any sense?

if you say it’s not a person and the mom has the right to bodily self autonomy ( which is what they all say), why does the right to self autonomy end at some
arbitrary, meaningless point of pregnancy? It’s still the moms body. Where’s the logic?

Any chance you can address the question i’m asking?
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[Pete F.]

Because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof.
I guarantee that if a politician answers that question, their smiling face will be used in an attack ad with that statement and a picture of a dead baby.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof.

Hmmm, I could have sworn NYC lit themselves up in pink lights and big smiles on the legislators faces to celebrate just such legislation.

Pretty ghoulish if you ask me
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Hmmm, I could have sworn NYC lit themselves up in pink lights and big smiles on the legislators faces to celebrate just such legislation.

Pretty ghoulish if you ask me
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and i’ve seen planned parenthood celebrate the anniversary of Roe with of all things, birthday cake.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof.
I guarantee that if a politician answers that question, their smiling face will be used in an attack ad with that statement and a picture of a dead baby.

another dodge.

it’s not remotely political, it’s logical. if the entire pro choice movement is based on the premise that a woman can do what she wants with her body and that the thing inside her isn’t human, why does that position evaporate suddenly at some random point during pregnancy?

you can’t answer logically obviously, because there isn’t an answer with a speck of logic. you’re also not honest enough to admit that, so you desperately dance around it.
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[Pete F.]

Watch this, but you won't get a politician to say it for the reasons I put forth previously.

It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

You complain that liberals want to tax soft drinks with the goal of reducing healthcare costs and reducing the obesity of Americans, saying people should have the right to do whatever they want and it doesn't matter if they die.

But you claim the right to control women, their physicians and their decisions.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Watch this, but you won't get a politician to say it for the reasons I p

It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

You complain that liberals want to tax soft drinks with the goal of reducing healthcare costs and reducing the obesity of Americans, saying people should have the right to do whatever they want and it doesn't matter if they die.

But you claim the right to control women, their physicians and their decisions.

i claim nothing here. for the third time, i’m asking why a woman’s right to self autonomy, ends at some point during the pregnancy?

you’re getting a little worked up here. why not just answer the question.

it’s much more logically consistent, to say that the mom has that right throughout, and therefore support abortion until
birth. i don’t agree with that, but i concede the logical consistency.

you cannot win this pete, i literally have all the cards.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i claim nothing here. for the third time, i’m asking why a woman’s right to self autonomy, ends at some point during the pregnancy?

you’re getting a little worked up here. why not just answer the question.

it’s much more logically consistent, to say that the mom has that right throughout, and therefore support abortion until
birth. i don’t agree with that, but i concede the logical consistency.

you cannot win this pete, i literally have all the cards.
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Because it is politically suicide to say that because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof, are you that stupid that you cannot see it.

My opinion is still: It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

So, I have answered your question.
Tell me why legislating for public health regarding disease is bad, but legislating for public health regarding reproductive control is acceptable?

How did this get to government intrusion into citizens lives from Trump's PR meltdown?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Because it is politically suicide to say that because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof, are you that stupid that you cannot see it.

My opinion is still: It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

So, I have answered your question.
Tell me why legislating for public health regarding disease is bad, but legislating for public health regarding reproductive control is acceptable?

How did this get to government intrusion into citizens lives from Trump's PR meltdown?

if it’s a women’s rights issue, funny how so many women are opposed to it. are they all self
loathing masochists?

and you you support
abortion until the moment of birth?

not sure how we got here...happy to drop it.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if it’s a women’s rights issue, funny how so many women are opposed to it. are they all self
loathing masochists?

and you you support
abortion until the moment of birth?

not sure how we got here...happy to drop it.
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80% of americans support R vs W in some form

20% want no limit

As far as I'm concerned it's between you and your god or lack thereof, I feel no more guilt about other peoples behavior than I do about black people being brought to this country as slaves.
Perhaps you do

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Watch this, but you won't get a politician to say it for the reasons I put forth previously.

It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

You complain that liberals want to tax soft drinks with the goal of reducing healthcare costs and reducing the obesity of Americans, saying people should have the right to do whatever they want and it doesn't matter if they die.

But you claim the right to control women, their physicians and their decisions.

i’m pretty sure that my decision to drink a Big Gulp from 7-11, doesn’t necessarily involve the concurrent slaughter of an unborn baby.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Funny how’s its a women’s issue , until we have to discuss child support. Then it’s a “It takes two” issue.

What if the mother is pro life and the father is pro choice? Does this absolve him of child support? What if it’s reversed, does that mean he now has no say on whether to keep it or not?

It’s not as cut and dry as it’s her body and she can do what she wants.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Funny how’s its a women’s issue , until we have to discuss child support. Then it’s a “It takes two” issue.

What if the mother is pro life and the father is pro choice? Does this absolve him of child support? What if it’s reversed, does that mean he now has no say on whether to keep it or not?

It’s not as cut and dry as it’s her body and she can do what she wants.
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What if he raped her?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What if he raped her?

Well. if that doesn't settle it, I don't know what does.

[spence]

"In a shocking exchange during a press conference, a reporter directly asked the Finnish president, "What kind of favors has Mr. Trump asked from you?” referencing President Trump's call with the Ukranian president at the center of an impeachment inquiry."

Ouch

[Sea Dangles]

Fake news Pal
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Fake news Pal
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Fake news Pal
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