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12-06-2009, 09:56 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Originally Posted by Sgt Striper
Hello to all, this is what I have been working on this week! Thanks to Prof. M I got a Nike done last night. I'm pretty satisfied with it. Trying to get more info on some of the old plugs so I can reproduce this winter, love the old ones!! Lou
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nice job on the Nike. It is a really nice plug and fun to build. Got as many curves as a pregnant women. |
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12-06-2009, 09:53 AM
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Location: norwood pa
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Good morning everyone. Looks like everybody is busy. We've got ice all over everything here this morning. Gonna do some more building this afternoon. Here's a couple things I've got done recently.
Some stuff for freshwater. Small handcarved stuff and a scaled down jointed. Small swimmers that I fish in both fresh and salt the little blue over white has been a great largemouth plug. And a couple thin swimmers.
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12-06-2009, 09:56 AM
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12-06-2009, 09:56 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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[QUOTE=the greek;728489] And a couple thin swimmers.
I got one of those. Nice plug
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12-06-2009, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:59 AM
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LOL Paul we posted at the same time.  |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:46 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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George I got lots of favors to ask you.  Can I borrow that orangie, red, Bassaqua you have hanging on your wall. I need to see that color up close. Can I have one of those Musso danny things in a naked form. The kid you were fishing this fall from the boat. I need to make some for a friend as payment for his services and I have never done one. Why the pikie lip on the one you gave Lu? |
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12-06-2009, 09:48 AM
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Registered User
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Location: North Fork
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Originally Posted by ProfessorM
George I got lots of favors to ask you. Can I borrow that orangie, red, Bassaqua you have hanging on your wall. I need to see that color up close. Can I have one of those Musso danny things in a naked form. The kid you were fishing this fall from the boat. I need to make some for a friend as payment for his services and I have never done one. Why the pikie lip on the one you gave Lu? |
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:54 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eastendlu
Ya noticed |
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12-06-2009, 09:50 AM
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Thanks George on the xray of the A54b. I questioned the model earlier. Now you confirmed what model it is. Mucho grazies. I see you been doing Wadds. Are you conventionally weighting them? Would you like try my maverick way in weighting. It's a little more time but it makes building a fun challenge.
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Billy D.
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12-06-2009, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Thanks George on the xray of the A54b. I questioned the model earlier. Now you confirmed what model it is. Mucho grazies. I see you been doing Wadds. Are you conventionally weighting them? Would you like try my maverick way in weighting. It's a little more time but it makes building a fun challenge.
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Let us know how that works out if you can. |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:56 AM
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Hi guys and Ted and Sgt. those plugs look  . |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by eastendlu
Let us know how that works out if you can. |
Lu. This weighting works great. My buddys love the way it casts, fishes and catches. The weight is a 1/4" lead rod 3" long. Approx. 1oz. Pix of blank b/4 turned and a finished turning. A 1/4' dowel is glued in the drilled weight hole b/4 turned. |
Billy D.
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12-06-2009, 10:24 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
Lu. This weighting works great. My buddys love the way it casts, fishes and catches. The weight is a 1/4" lead rod 3" long. Approx. 1oz. Pix of blank b/4 turned and a finished turning. A 1/4' dowel is glued in the drilled weight hole b/4 turned.
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I will show you my similar way later. I got to go get ready for Church the wife is yelling at me. |
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12-06-2009, 06:04 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pbadad
Lu. This weighting works great. My buddys love the way it casts, fishes and catches. The weight is a 1/4" lead rod 3" long. Approx. 1oz. Pix of blank b/4 turned and a finished turning. A 1/4' dowel is glued in the drilled weight hole b/4 turned.
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ok here is how I do it most times. This was showed to me by Mr. Manzi several years ago. Slip told me it was his idea that Dave copied form him so I don't know which was which and don't care. It works and makes it real easy and I know of a few comm. guys that do it his way now since I showed them where to get materials. Just want to let you know it's not my idea. I keep telling people I never had an original idea in my life but don't let me see it because I can plagiarize with the best of them.
Anyway back to the useful info.
I use hard plastic tubing. The OD is 1/4 inch and the ID holds a tail grommet very tight so the tail grommet won't slid around on you. You can use it in any combo you want. Wgt., plastic, wgt, plastic. 1 wgt then plastic. Pretty much any way you want so no dowels and gluing and re drilling. In the last pic you see some larger stuff. 3/8 OD for larger weighting . You then take the 1/4' stuff which happens to fit nice and perfect into the 3/8 stuff and then the tail grommet fits into the 1/4" stuff. You can see I have 100 foot rolls of the stuff, enough for 5 lifetimes of needles but the stuff is very cheap and that is how it is sold. It took some searching to get the right wall thickness but here is the place I got it. Just make sure you get the right wall thickness. If you need help just ask and if you want to try a little let me know and I can send you some as god knows i got plenty.
LDPE and HDPE Tubing. | U.S. Plastic Corp. |
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12-06-2009, 07:36 PM
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Excellent post Paul so much to learn so little time.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 09:51 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Ed. I took a much smaller one gave to me by Capesams, whom he told me was made my Tony Stezko Sr.. I took the plug and lengthen it a lot. Then this year I took the template and moved it back a smidge to make it quite a bit smaller in dia. It really doesn't have any greater action than any other needles but I just luv the lines. I am going to make some smaller ones like Steve gave me too. Perfect for boat fishing.
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12-06-2009, 09:52 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I did not say i didn't like, did I. No I really like it a lot and will probably be back for some more. |
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12-06-2009, 09:53 AM
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The Xray of the 54b might be of a molded plastic version. Thats the one I have.
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Billy D.
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12-06-2009, 10:08 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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got a few more going.
some Lido flaptails
some small poppers I did pretty good on in the ditch this year
some more topwaters. I was very happy with this bastardization of a jigman spook and youzouri hydro pencil. I weighted it horizontal on center from one side to the other. Did 2 with belly wgts too just to see if it works better. Caught a lot of fish from the boat on it in the spring and the fall. My best job of the year. I like it out of red cedar, epoxy sealed, but I tried several other species of wood too this time.
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12-06-2009, 10:14 AM
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Paul me thinks you are part beaver the way you chew through all that wood.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 10:20 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
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LOL . that ain't the half of it Lu. I go like crazy turning now then I am done for the year pretty much for the turning. Then I take a more leisurely pace to finish the stuff and I won't finish it all just what I feel like doing. I really don't enjoy the turning all that much after the first one and am glad to get it out of the way. I do like all the other aspects though and make them last longer. Kind of like getting rid of the candy outside to get to the rich chocolate center. |
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12-06-2009, 10:23 AM
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The turned model shows if you look hard, the dowel plug in the tail. The blank shows the dimentions. 3"from hook hole center to nose, showing the 3" area for the weight and the length from tail to end of weight hole 5". Plug 8.25" total length.
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12-06-2009, 10:25 AM
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Hey guys, I'll get back later. Gotta vacuum the family room and then go and play in the "Dungeon". Have a great day.
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Billy D.
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12-06-2009, 10:29 AM
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Thanks Pbadad and everyone else.Talk to you later off to do some chores.Have a great days guys.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 10:42 AM
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Good stuff guys. Sorry I missed it, I was on kid duty this morning. Seems like a thread that will keep going though. I'll take some pics this afternoon.
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12-06-2009, 11:37 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Striper
Anyone ever try one of these, I've had good luck with it, swam perfect on the first try!
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Yes, I have, but without the original to copy mine sucked. The line tie on the larger version is not on center.
Hey Paul. The plug Lu showed is a copy of a standard Musso Pine Sr. It uses a Pikie 3 lip. The plug you, Art, and a few others (Eddy I think) have is a creation I call a skinny donny. It is more heavily weighted and uses a lefty 2 mid slot lip. Very unstable plug that guys who use spinning tackle have a hard time reeling slowly enough. Don't have any unfinished ones left...they're all freehand anyways so they vary some. I'll see if I wrote down what I put in it for weight.
Pb.....the xray is of the wooden smaller atom jr. I don't know much about the styrofoam version......Grapenuts is the guy to ask about anything atom. I copied the 54b name from you, so we both may be wrong. Daignault makes mention of a heavily weighted atom jr that he caught 2 fifty pound fish on.....perhaps that is what you have although I always assumed it was a wood version.
Sgt Striper......what old plugs are you interested in, I might be able to help.
Lu, thanks for fishing the plug. I noticed that since I started heat setting the createx and drying the epoxied plugs in a heated box (@100 degrees) they have been much more durable. |
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12-06-2009, 12:20 PM
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Funny you mention that George as i just made this out of something i used to keep all my flammables in.Two walled steel and look at my heating source  |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-06-2009, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt Striper
Anyone ever try one of these, I've had good luck with it, swam perfect on the first try!
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Yes I built a few and this one was my first and best attempt. It swims nice and takes on a little darter like character in current. It is weighted mid point like a danny. I tried to make a better casting one with a tail weight and it was a turd. This is one of my favorite plugs to fish sometimes I just like watching it swim.
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12-06-2009, 04:42 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Originally Posted by Sgt Striper
Anyone ever try one of these, I've had good luck with it, swam perfect on the first try!
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Funny as Tagger asked me about these a week or 2 ago. looks like a neat plugs |
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