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Aside from some papers there have been a number of Republicans rethinking their position on how we regulate guns.
-spence
let's see..."...."papers" and republicans rethinking their positions, a large number of Republican voices speaking out in favor of some action, usual conservative "papers" are drilling into LaPierre for being a nut case"
just stick with vague and broad when did "papers" start drilling and (re)thinking
This is truly the thread I can separate the political fanboys from those who actually have a clue and know wtf they are talking about.
Bring it on boys.I know there are two representing either side of the aisle who say equally some of the dumbest things that could be uttered on this subject.
C'mon guys don't fail me now.I need to truly be disappointed by some real stupidity.
Here is my 2 cents, The media in this country sucks. They try to one up each other, and never wait for the facts to come out, often erroneously reporting facts. They originally reported he used an AR, but the police stated they found 4 handguns in the school, and they found one long gun in the trunk of the car.
In the video of them opening the trunk of the car, the long gun in question appears to possibly be a tactical shotgun. Feinstein let it be known long before the election that she was going to push an assault weapons ban again, and they are using the erroneous news reports to push her bull#^&#^&#^&#^& agenda. Automatic weapons are already heavily restricted, you need a class 3 license to buy one, then the guns usually are in the thousand of dollars, on top of that is the large tax you pay to own them.
Should there be some regulations on guns absolutely, but these regulations should not be made by people who are largely uneducated with regards to firearms.
Some things that need to change, in the south most states only require you to be a resident and show a drivers license to buy a gun. This need to change, they need to make people get a gun license, and pass a strict background check, period. I know of stories of people from down south that come up here, with 10 handguns serial numbers obliterated to sell on the street, these are your straw purchasers. They usually come up to visit relatives, but their primarily reside down south.
I am all for a magazine restriction, no one really needs 100 round Beta mags.
Institute a tax break or incentive for people to buy gun safes. I have a combination lock gun safe and I can get into it in under 5 seconds. Again no big deal.
The type of gun has no meaning, a gun is a gun , is a gun, they all go boom and can all kill you so banning a certain type is not going to solve anything, and it would take a very long time for a gun ban to go into effect. Btw the governments own studies show that the 94 law was largely in effective in reducing gun crime or deaths. So does it really work?
What will work tomorrow or right away? Armed security or police officers in the schools will work. This can be implemented right away, temporarily use current police, and hire a new armed school police force. Cost should not be a factor, we spend millions upon millions of dollars in foreign aid, lets cut that back and take care of our own kids.
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Here is my 2 cents, The media in this country sucks.
the "apoplexy" that Spence speaks of is actually on the part of the main stream media and their political allies defaulting to a predictable emotional narrative that ignores facts and drums ahead with a political agenda...it shouldn't be surprising....
the "apoplexy" that Spence speaks of is actually on the part of the main stream media and their political allies defaulting to a predictable emotional narrative that ignores facts and drums ahead with a political agenda...it shouldn't be surprising....
You mean like the boob who asked the DC police if it was alright to use a hi cap magazine on his show and was denied since they are against the law and did it anyway. BTW notice Lapierre's response at the end, spot on since they are banned in DC and the asshat had one.
You mean like the boob who asked the DC police if it was alright to use a hi cap magazine on his show and was denied since they are against the law and did it anyway. BTW notice Lapierre's response at the end, spot on since they are banned in DC and the asshat had one.
Maybe agenda-driven questions like this are why the NRA is so apprehensive to having discussions with the unreasonable:
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"Here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. Now, isn't it possible if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said, 'Well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets,' isn't it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like Newtown?'"
Next, let's go to an AA meeting, hold up a bottle of high-proof vodka and ask:
"Here's a bottle of 120 proof vodka. Now, isn't it possible if we got rid of these high alcohol spirits and said 'you can only have say 40 proof or 70 proof vodka,' isn't it just possible we could reduce the deaths due to driving drunk?"
Maybe agenda-driven questions like this are why the NRA is so apprehensive to having discussions with the unreasonable:
Next, let's go to an AA meeting, hold up a bottle of high-proof vodka and ask:
"Here's a bottle of 120 proof vodka. Now, isn't it possible if we got rid of these high alcohol spirits and said 'you can only have say 40 proof or 70 proof vodka,' isn't it just possible we could reduce the deaths due to driving drunk?"
Now we would be logical. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Maybe agenda-driven questions like this are why the NRA is so apprehensive to having discussions with the unreasonable:
Next, let's go to an AA meeting, hold up a bottle of high-proof vodka and ask:
"Here's a bottle of 120 proof vodka. Now, isn't it possible if we got rid of these high alcohol spirits and said 'you can only have say 40 proof or 70 proof vodka,' isn't it just possible we could reduce the deaths due to driving drunk?"
Johnny D, why is it unreasonable to assume that if you eliminate high capacity magazines, you can lower the body count?
Your analogy to alcohol is off. If vodka is banned, you're right that I can get just as drunk drinking beer. But in the case of these shootings, there have been documented cases where the shooter is stopped when he pauses to reload. That's fact. It also seems like common sense to me. The harder it is to shoot a ton of bullets, the lower the expected body count.
To me, the flaw in the argument for banning those magazines is, you can't confiscate the ones that are out there. So maybe it's 15 years from now before that has any effect, because a then-18 year-old can't get a high-capacity magazine.
I lso feel that any discussion around gun control is, at best, going to lower the body count after these attacks happen. Better to discuss what causes them in the first place, but liberals won't want to talk about looking at movie violence, video game violence, committing folks who appear to be insane, and family values.
when did "papers" start drilling and (re)thinking 
Bring it on boys.I know there are two representing either side of the aisle who say equally some of the dumbest things that could be uttered on this subject.
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