Susan Rice new Secretary of State?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Jim, I concur with your reply to striperman36. But let's say that striperman's analogy is not a false one. That Bush actually did "make sure" that powell misled us and the U.N with a false picture. How does that make the Benghazi cover-up any better? Wouldn't it be the same type of thing that the Dems would up pounding bush for?

I've never seen anything credible that Bush personally misled anyone, just as I don't see anything credible that Obama has personally misled anyone.

This is a tragedy turned into manufactured scandal.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

[QUOTE=spence;970841I don't see anything credible that Obama has personally misled anyone.
.

-spence[/QUOTE]

No? How about the town hall debate, when a guy asked Obama who denied Stevens the extra security, and why?

Obama's response was something to the effect of "the diplomats are patriots and heroes, and they work for me".

That's not misleading? No? Did he answer the question?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't see anything credible that Obama has personally misled anyone.

-spence

Let's examine that...in the second debate, the town hall, a man asked Obama this question about tthe security staffing in Benghazi...

"Who was it that denied enhanced security and why?"

Obama:

"Well, let me first of all talk about our diplomats, because they serve all around the world and do an incredible job in a very dangerous situation. And these aren't just representatives of the United States, they are my representatives. I send them there, oftentimes into harm's way. I know these folks and I know their families. So nobody is more concerned about their safety and security than I am.

So as soon as we found out that the Benghazi consulate was being overrun, I was on the phone with my national security team and I gave them three instructions.

Number one, beef up our security and procedures, not just in Libya, but at every embassy and consulate in the region.

Number two, investigate exactly what happened, regardless of where the facts lead us, to make sure folks are held accountable and it doesn't happen again.

And number three, we are going to find out who did this and we're going to hunt them down, because one of the things that I've said throughout my presidency is when folks mess with Americans, we go after them."

Spence, was that answering the question that was asked? Was that even close to answering the question that was asked?

Obama was either deliberately misleading that man and everyone watching, or Obama is too stupid to understand the question that was asked. There is no third option.

you tell me, Spence. How is that not deliberate misleading on Obama's part?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama:
"And number three, we are going to find out who did this and we're going to hunt them down, because one of the things that I've said throughout my presidency is when folks mess with Americans, we go after them."

Not to worry, it's just "Folks" that are trying to kill us, they are not Terrorists,
just "Folks."
Show me the video of the Situation Room that night, ya know like the one
when the Seals got Bin Laden, and that should help clear up a lot of Bengazy
questions.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Not to worry, it's just "Folks" that are trying to kill us, they are not Terrorists,
just "Folks."
Show me the video of the Situation Room that night, ya know like the one
when the Seals got Bin Laden, and that should help clear up a lot of Bengazy
questions.

Right, it's never terrorists. Obama won't call the Fort Hood massacre an act of terrorism, but rather, it was a case of "workplace violence", as if the shooter's agenda was similar to that of a disgruntled postal worker.

How do you ever win a war, when you refuse to admit who you are fighting against?

[likwid]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Right, it's never terrorists. Obama won't call the Fort Hood massacre an act of terrorism, but rather, it was a case of "workplace violence", as if the shooter's agenda was similar to that of a disgruntled postal worker.

How do you ever win a war, when you refuse to admit who you are fighting against?

And one of the base commanders (Lt Gen Cone) said it wasn't an act of terrorism either. Why aren't you crying about him? Oh right, then it would prove you hate America!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by likwid

And one of the base commanders (Lt Gen Cone) said it wasn't an act of terrorism either. Why aren't you crying about him? Oh right, then it would prove you hate America!

Likwid, like the vast majority of Americans, I have no idea who Gen Cone is. If Gen Cone said that, he is also an idiot.

When the killer believes he is killing in the name of Islam, and he shouts "Allah Hu Akbar" (Allah Is Great) as he kills Americans, that is what makes him an Islamic terrorist.

Likwid, you are not going to get me with a simple Gotcha question. I'm not a glaring hypocrit. Every single person who says Ft Hood was not an act of Islamic terrorism, is an idiot. And sying he's an idiot, in no way "proves I hate America". Why would it imply I hate America? I have served America more than a person like you ever will.

Fair enough?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm not a glaring hypocrit.

Personally, I think your the biggest hypocrit on this site. Whenever you see something you don't like that you think is done by a liberal you start crying and attribute it to all liberals (Infact, John has had to repeatedly tell you to stop doing that). Yet when something is done by a conserv. and someone attributes it to a cons., you get your panties in a bunch.

The tone of the whole forum has changed since you have started posting.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Likwid, like the vast majority of Americans, I have no idea who Gen Cone is. If Gen Cone said that, he is also an idiot.

When the killer believes he is killing in the name of Islam, and he shouts "Allah Hu Akbar" (Allah Is Great) as he kills Americans, that is what makes him an Islamic terrorist.

Likwid, you are not going to get me with a simple Gotcha question. I'm not a glaring hypocrit. Every single person who says Ft Hood was not an act of Islamic terrorism, is an idiot. And sying he's an idiot, in no way "proves I hate America". Why would it imply I hate America? I have served America more than a person like you ever will.

Fair enough?

The Defense Department hasn't labeled the Ft Hood shootings as terrorism for legal reasons...he's not up on terror charges.

To convict on terror charges would require a higher burden of proof around the conspiracy, motivation etc...Certainly with the Hassan case he appears to have gone a bit nutty and while there's communication with an al Qaeda operative there doesn't appear to be evidence his actions were necessarily directed.

Simply put, bringing Hassan up on terror charges would give him a chance to muddy the waters and escape a conviction or harsher charges.

As it is being prosecuted, the case should be open and shut.

It's funny, you like to accuse the left of acting on emotion rather than facts and rational thought.

Yet this is what you do all the time.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Obama:
"And number three, we are going to find out who did this and we're going to hunt them down, because one of the things that I've said throughout my presidency is when folks mess with Americans, we go after them."

Not to worry, it's just "Folks" that are trying to kill us, they are not Terrorists,
just "Folks."
Show me the video of the Situation Room that night of the attack, ya know like the one when the seals got Bin Laden, and that should help clear up a lot of Bengazi
questions.