Daiwa Saltiga Surf

[zimmy]

All the rods I currently used are built along the lines of the concept system. I switch reels all the time. I can't imagine you are going to be adversely affected on an 11' if you build with an emblem pro and later switch to the new shimano, a stella, a saltiga, or whatever. If you built a 9' rod to a saltiga 4500 w/ 30lb pp and then threw a 706 w/ 20lb mono on the rod, it probably wouldn't be ideal. But in my experience, the difference between an emblem pro and a saltiga 4500 size reel, when combined with supple braid, is barely discernible, if at all. I will add... if you can find an old style saltiga 4500Z, would be worth every penny of $500. Much nicer than plugging with an emblem pro. I also have a daiwa powersurf, which can be had on ebay for less than $250. It is a really nice casting, lightweight reel. I use mine on my 1327 and have never had an issue. When they first came out, the rumor was that it was the same reel as the saltiga surf. I am not sure if that is true, but the powersurf has been a great reel for that price range. I also wonder if the general resistance to the saltiga surf would be diminished if it was called something else and was a couple hundred cheaper. It isn't built like a tank like the saltiga, but it mine has held up well and casts the best of all my reels.

[Canalman]

I've heard mostly good things about the SS, but I wouldn't pick that reel if I was going to fish the surf. Canal, sure it would be a great reel, but if you're getting in the water, go with what's been proven to take that kind of abuse. For my money, VS250 and you're done.

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by Canalman

I've heard mostly good things about the SS, but I wouldn't pick that reel if I was going to fish the surf. Canal, sure it would be a great reel, but if you're getting in the water, go with what's been proven to take that kind of abuse. For my money, VS250 and you're done.

If I am going to be out swimming or in heavy surf. I have a VS250 and a ZX22 Depending on location. Either set up is equally Proficient for handling those types of situations. This combo is being set up specifically to reach out and touch someone. I love my VS 250. But it is limited in castability
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[Canalman]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

If I am going to be out swimming or in heavy surf. I have a VS250 and a ZX22 Depending on location. Either set up is equally Proficient for handling those types of situations. This combo is being set up specifically to reach out and touch someone. I love my VS 250. But it is limited in castability
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Yeah, I hear you. I use my 250 even at the Canal and I can reach the middle with my best casts. My philosophy is this: Not unlike pretty plugs super long casts are more for the fishermen than the fish. I can't tell you how many nice fish I've hooked at the end of a long cast and said outloud to myself--"well, I have no chance of landing this one!" and I'm usually right. Once you get your plug out past 100 yards--even 80 yards--your ability to drive the hooks home becomes tenuous at best. When you get out to 120 yards (I'm guessing because I don't think I can throw it that far! ) it becomes even tougher. When you add wind, current, water reistance and all of that the odds are stacked in the wrong direction. Sounds like you're going to be using this more in the surf though. With a few exceptions where there is some kind of structure that you want to reach, casting distance in the surf is overrated. Just my opinion of course. And I'm not trying to say that I'm right and you're wrong--at all.

I think the bottom line is: will that reel hold up to being submerged all the time? And, as is the case with most of these reels that are designed for smoothness--it probably has too many bearings and other moving parts to live a long healthy life in the surf.

[Sgt Striper]

Originally Posted by Jackbass

If I am going to be out swimming or in heavy surf. I have a VS250 and a ZX22 Depending on location. Either set up is equally Proficient for handling those types of situations. This combo is being set up specifically to reach out and touch someone. I love my VS 250. But it is limited in castability
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A few years ago I would agree with that statement but not now! I have found the optimum line and guide layout (and blanks) that allow me to throw 100 yds +. The 250 has been my favorite since it was first produced. I have tried just about everything out there and I will stick with my 250. Concentrate on a good blank, guides and layout along with a good braid.

Originally Posted by Canalman

I think the bottom line is: will that reel hold up to being submerged all the time? And, as is the case with most of these reels that are designed for smoothness--it probably has too many bearings and other moving parts to live a long healthy life in the surf.

Bingo, couldn't agree more!

[Jackbass]

Originally Posted by Sgt Striper

A few years ago I would agree with that statement but not now! I have found the optimum line and guide layout (and blanks) that allow me to throw 100 yds +. The 250 has been my favorite since it was first produced. I have tried just about everything out there and I will stick with my 250. Concentrate on a good blank, guides and layout along with a good braid.




Bingo, couldn't agree more!

I agree if this reel were going to get wet I would go with a 250 or a zx2-27 it will not be. I am going to stick with the empro for now and consider an upgrade mid season if the weight is an issue.

I truly appreciate all the feed back guys. That is why I like this place. People here fish! They use gear and use it up if it will be used up. I know that if I am in need of opinions on gear people here have used it.

Thanks Again
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