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Old 03-20-2012, 04:19 PM   #11
detbuch
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If his term were to end today Obama would leave a country better off than when he took office. Ultimately that's what a chief executive is responsible for.

The country my kids will inherit isn't a product of Obama alone, and even with our serious issues isn't all that bad.

-spence
"Better" is one of those subjective words that often, as is the case here, can describe parts of a whole, but rarely the entire. In the worst scenarios you can usually find something that is better than before, especially when "better" is a point of view and one that is invested in finding that "better" for political points. You, apparently, have found the "country" to be better off, in some way, than before. Without specifics, I can't fathom what that means. Has there even been a noticeable general "improvement" of the "country?" I don't notice it. Perhaps that's because I have a different point of view. Being a relativist, you would understand that.

Oh . . . so the so-called "financial crisis" was averted, according to "experts." Well, we don't really know that, do we? We don't know that, as others contend, we might be better off at this point if some biggies had been allowed to fail and creative destruction was allowed to evolve better ones. Unemployent is higher, gas prices are higher, food prices are higher, insurance is more expensive, the cost of medicine and health care has not been lowered, the cost of government and the cost of education has risen, the recovery that always follows recessions is anemic, and government is more intrusive and at a more accelerating pace, and the national debt has ballooned at a record rate. For starters. And you're parting thought "that even with our serious issues isn't all that bad" can be applied to just about any Presidential term.

But that is all just perspective, "context," as you like to say. There is no arguing opinion. What I find revealing is your comment that ultimately the chief executive is responsible for leaving the country better off than when he took office. Really? The POTUS has the responsibilty of making the "country better?" That is precisely the difference in mindset between constitutionalists and progressives. Progressives insist that it is government administration that improves our lot. Constititionalists believe that We the People are responsible for, and are guaranteed the freedom, to improve our lot.
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