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05-02-2011, 12:08 PM
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Let's just give credit where credit is due: To all the military that have served and to all that have died in defense of our country!
No praise, no credit, no kudos should be given to the president, since all he did was say "go"! (I mean, if Bush isn't going to be given his just credit, certainly Obama hasn't earned any!)
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05-02-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by FishermanTim
No praise, no credit, no kudos should be given to the president, since all he did was say "go"! (I mean, if Bush isn't going to be given his just credit, certainly Obama hasn't earned any!)
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But I read that JimCt said that Bush s/b praised for keeping us safe after 9/11. So if you like the pres. you give credit for something that happens during his term but if you don't like him, no kudos? 
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05-02-2011, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
But I read that JimCt said that Bush s/b praised for keeping us safe after 9/11. So if you like the pres. you give credit for something that happens during his term but if you don't like him, no kudos? 
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Paul, if you read my posts before criticizing me, you'd see that I posted this...
"Not easy for me to admit, but Obama deserves some kudos here."
If I say it again, will you be able to recognize that I said it? I give Obama credit for always tightening th enoose around Bin Laden, and for being aggressive with predator drone attacks. I may be an S.O.B., but I'm extremely rational and fair.
Zimmy, someone else posted that BUsh declared "Mission Accomplished" in a speech. I pointed out the irrefutable fact that Bush said no such thing during the speech in question. You "responded" by posting a picture of the banner, and by posting quotes attributed to people other than Bush.
For the third time...huge mistakes were made in planning the Iraq strategy, and it's completely fair to criticize Bush for that. It is NOT FAIR to imply that he said "mission accomplished" during that speech, and anyone who claims he said that is lying. The banner was put up to help one ship celebrate the fact that their mission was accomplished. Liberals twist that to attack Bush. I don't like that, I presume you are OK with it...
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05-02-2011, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Paul, if you read my posts before criticizing me, you'd see that I posted this...
"Not easy for me to admit, but Obama deserves some kudos here."
If I say it again, will you be able to recognize that I said it? I give Obama credit for always tightening th enoose around Bin Laden, and for being aggressive with predator drone attacks. I may be an S.O.B., but I'm extremely rational and fair.
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I saw your quote and I was not criticizing you for anything related to this. I was crit. FishermanTim for his comments that Obama deserved no credit. I shouldn't have used your name, just the point about Bush keeping us safe after 9/11. My apologizes.
Does anyone know why seals would have been used for a land based mission? Are they considered the best trained of our special forces?
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05-02-2011, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I saw your quote and I was not criticizing you for anything related to this. I was crit. FishermanTim for his comments that Obama deserved no credit. I shouldn't have used your name, just the point about Bush keeping us safe after 9/11. My apologizes.
Does anyone know why seals would have been used for a land based mission? Are they considered the best trained of our special forces?
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IMHO, they are far and away the best, and the operate on land...that's what SEAL stands for, by the way... SEa, Air, Land. Their mission statement includes all manner of operations in any environment. They must be seen to be believed, not entirely human.
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05-02-2011, 02:30 PM
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They are the best at what they do. Each member of the Special Operations community performs a different misson. Some train friendly insurgents, some go forward and establish a toe hold ahead of a forced entry, some seize hostages, there is some cross functionality but when there is a very specific mission, you choose the unit that trains for that mission almost exclusively.
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